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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. I agree, but good luck not getting called an "idiot" or a "dreamer"
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:07 PM
Nov 2015

for imagining that the US can do ANYthing about Terrorists except bombing, drone attacks, etc.
in order to keep creating more terrorists for endless ME war.

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
2. I am no expert but the US is involved in the Middle East because we like to control the distribution
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:15 PM
Nov 2015

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of Oil. We allied with Saudi Arabia because they have the most oil. Once Oil becomes a small player then the US is going to say "Fuck this, there is no monetary benefit here or resource to protect. Goodbye!" The oil money dries up and terrorists don't have the funding they need and the corrupt oil company owners have to go elsewhere to get rich and control the Gov. Not to mention because we won't be on their lands they simply won't care about us.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. I agree 100% re: re. WHY we feel the ME is so damned important to control. It's the oil stupid.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:25 PM
Nov 2015

But then that leaves poor Exxon, BP, Shell, et. al. and the MIC 'out in the cold' too, without endless
ME wars to feed their already boated bank accounts.

I say "boo-hoo, deal with it" .. but sadly I doubt that logic, reason or common sense will prevail.
But we can hope.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
5. Every time the US goes over to protect its oil interest people die. If we butted out
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:38 PM
Nov 2015

of everything except humanitarian aid they might not hate us so much as terrorists would not have the money needed to fight the entire world.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
6. The Iraq war alone
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

has cost $2 Trillion and is projected to cost $6 Trillion at the end of the next four decades.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314#0fY3a3tIwQUZ67Gt.97
That's not Afghanistan or anything else - just the war criminals, Bush/Cheney in 2003 Iraq

If they had spent $2 Trillion on developing clean energy, would they not be the world leaders in that technology and kind of set the country up pretty good for the next century. And it would probably pay for itself several times over with the dent it would put in climate change when US cities would otherwise start to drown in sea water. And the reduction in terrorism/Homeland Security expenses over those years would also be substantial. Meanwhile, the psychopaths in the Middle East would be pretty bummed out with the fall in their financial fortunes.

To me, it's a no brainer.


My Dad always said "it takes two to fight"

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
7. It makes me want to cry when I think of all the ways we could have used that 2 Trillion
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

That was flushed down the toilet with so many dead bodies and destroyed lives.

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
12. Just think, the Gov. could have bought solar pannels for every house in the country
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:23 PM
Nov 2015

and most businesses with 2 Trillion.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
8. No?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:20 PM
Nov 2015

If we're defining terrorism as using violence to frighten people into doing this or that, I'm pretty sure that's been going on far longer than we've been using oil. Renewable energy isn't magic. You're still dealing with people. Which is why renewable energy probably won't solve our environmental issues either.

global1

(25,237 posts)
11. Will We Have To Protect Our Renewable Energy Sources For Fear That They....
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:34 PM
Nov 2015

will become targets as oil companies hire terrorists to destroy windmills, solar farms, etc to maintain there dominance with oil.

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