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I'll take the beating for this because it isn't nice but (Original Post) jeepers Nov 2015 OP
No Marrah_G Nov 2015 #1
good, can you explain that? jeepers Nov 2015 #4
Well, I am already aware of the effect that war has had people in Iraq Marrah_G Nov 2015 #10
If this happened to someone you knew, would you care? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #2
In Fallujah or in Paris? jeepers Nov 2015 #6
Would it matter? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #7
shouldn't jeepers Nov 2015 #8
Burn a mole. No biggie. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #3
Yes. Context is all. Orsino Nov 2015 #5
Context, jeepers Nov 2015 #9
I can't answer a hypothetical, but one possibility is what the OP posits. Orsino Nov 2015 #11
No. It would be disturbing to be related by blood geek tragedy Nov 2015 #12
We know they aren't, though. nt MADem Nov 2015 #13
No avebury Nov 2015 #14
Permanent war in the ME is really, really good for a very, very few . HickFromTheTick Nov 2015 #15

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
10. Well, I am already aware of the effect that war has had people in Iraq
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:28 PM
Nov 2015

and other places. I also think that everyone is responsible for their own actions. France had no part in fallujah and the victims were not connected to military or government organizations.

Also, not all Muslims or all Muslim groups are the same or think the same, even the violent ones.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Yes. Context is all.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

We're unlikely to uncover any real excuses, but if we won't learn, we earn a piece of the blame.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. I can't answer a hypothetical, but one possibility is what the OP posits.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:33 PM
Nov 2015

Learning the recipe for terrorism might help us.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
14. No
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

But then I also believe that we have reaped what we sowed.

The west continually puts boots on the ground, bombs and uses drones over in the Middle East and we are then surprised when some group might retaliate? The west has to assume some responsibility with what goes on.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We have continually mishandled the Middle East (as well as other parts of the world) all in name of feeding the MIC beast Real change will never come at the end of a bomb. Our methodology with the ME is so destructive that we have lost all credibility when it comes to working to establish peaceful solutions.

Putting the US on the path to alternative energy sources and cutting the head off the beast that oil represents would do a long way to eliminating the obsession that the West has with oil rich states. Once you take oil out of the equation then the West might not feel it so necessary to meddle there. Let the R/W Christian nuts fight any war and leave the US Government, US Military and the rest of us out of it.

 

HickFromTheTick

(56 posts)
15. Permanent war in the ME is really, really good for a very, very few .
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:04 PM
Nov 2015

Really, really bad for everyone else. Sucks to be everyone else. No matter, naive young people will always sign up to do the bloody work if they can be convinced they are on the side of the righteous. The profits will flow, and KEEP flowing as long as war is alive.
As long as we can be convinced that we are under constant threat, the job is done. Goebbels was so right. The New World Order is 0.001% of mankind in absolute power over the chemically conditioned, population modulated, absolutely subservient others for EVER. Or at least until one of the religious fantasy heroes magically appears from space to change it.

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