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Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:38 PM

 

Does anyone else think the word "folks" is getting over used?

I swear every time something happens, it happens to "folks". Why has the word "people" been replaced?

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Reply Does anyone else think the word "folks" is getting over used? (Original post)
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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:41 PM

1. It's more folksy, and that is in politically of late. nt

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:41 PM

2. I blame the Mighty Jingles

His "Howdy Folks" intro has led to numinous uses of the phrase.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:46 PM

3. I dislike it when someone north of the line uses it.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:03 PM

11. +1

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:43 PM

63. Then you hate me.

I'm o.k. with it, too. I use the word "folks" all the time. Used it in Nebraska, Germany AND Colorado.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:47 PM

4. No

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:51 PM

5. Dubya Bush is responsible for that word n/t

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Response to kskiska (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:50 PM

72. So Obama picked it up from W?

Doubt that.

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Response to kskiska (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:09 PM

76. Yep, it was a Bush favorite! n/t

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:51 PM

6. You folks are nuts.

It's just a word.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:53 PM

7. I see it as personal idiosyncrasy of President Obama, doesn't really bother me

Haven't noticed other "folks" overusing it.

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Response to TacoD (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:12 PM

13. According to a poster in this thread, Bush started it

 

And clinton used it to reply to a tweet about her wall street connections the other day: "Well, I'm sorry that whoever tweeted that had that impression because I worked closely with New Yorkers after 9/11 for my entire first term to rebuild. So, yes, I did know people. I've had a lot of folks give me donations ..."

Now folks must also mean "big corporations"... take what you will from it. But "folks" just seems to soften the blow. As in "we didnt bomb people"... "we bombed some folks". I dont like it personally

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Response to TacoD (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:45 PM

32. I actually don't mind when Prez Obama says it.

Maybe that's not fair but there it is. He may use it to his heart's content. Everybody else on my TeeVee should back off!

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Response to TacoD (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:57 PM

39. I have. Almost everyone. I don't mind it when Obama uses it because it seems to

be natural to him. After he started, everyone started using it, even when it was not appropriate.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:56 PM

8. YES!!!!!

Sorry for shouting.

Oh and thanks Dubya. He started the folks thing.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:02 PM

9. Thank you! I HATE the word "folks".

I don't know why, but it just drives me up the wall!

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:49 PM

35. include me in that club

don't really know why, but I really, really dislike it. Oddly enough, it doesn't bother me when Obama uses it, but anybody else?


Cher

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:02 PM

10. I blame Ann Romney and her use of "you people." It was cold and harsh...

"folks" is friendlier.

"Come on, folks, calm down."

vs.

"Come on, people, calm down."

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:59 PM

40. What the heck was wrong with come on, people?

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Response to merrily (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:43 PM

62. yeah, it was different in that context...we were all "people" then...

that wasn't Ann Romney's message...

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:10 PM

12. Oh, for folks sakes!

Just a word.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:14 PM

14. Oh, boy do I! I got over being folked about a year ago.

Everyone is using it, including when they shouldn't.

What the hell was so bad about "people?"

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:16 PM

15. "you guys" is sexist, "you people" is racist and "you all"

 

is a regional speech thing.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:19 PM

17. "you guys" is midwestern for y'all. nt

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:32 PM

24. Midwestern for "y'all" is "y'all"

Maybe "you guys" is an UP thing

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:42 PM

30. I don't know.I've lived in the Detroit burbs for

most of my life and everybody I know says "you guys",except for the southern transplants. And when we go to the movies,we say we're going to "the show",I've learned not to use that term outside of the midwest if I don't want to be teased about it.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:53 PM

37. Mine is a Southern transplant (black migration) family

and we say "y'all"

But yes, we go "the show" and it's "pop" and not soda because that's what it says on the Faygo cans and bottles, "pop."

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:03 PM

43. The I-75 corridor and our factories have blended the language

between the midwest and the south,lots of movement going both ways.

Just for fun,the pop/soda map:

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #43)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:09 PM

45. Also tonic, which is a Mass. term, while soda is a greater NY area term.

We visit family in the NY area but live in Massachusetts. To avoid confusion, my son adopted "What kind of soft drinks do you have?"

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Response to merrily (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:12 PM

47. Interesting,does tonic mean any kind of pop?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:23 PM

50. Between NY and Mass, it means any kind of soda



If he asked for tonic in NJ/NU, he'd get the tonic used in gin and tonic and, if he asked for soda in Mass., he'd get the soda used in scotch and soda. I wish I could say his father or I helped out the poor kid, but he came up with "soft drinks" on his own.

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Response to merrily (Reply #50)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:24 PM

52. lol. nt

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #43)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:24 PM

51. I lived in Boston a few years ago

and Faygo started to penetrate the market there, so I had sooooooooooo much fun telling Bostonians that when you drink faygo, you are drinking "pop" and nothing else, lol.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #51)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:29 PM

54. You could have broke out in song too!




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Response to sufrommich (Reply #54)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:44 PM

64. One of the geratest commercials of all time!

I've only seen this Faygo ad about 3 times since its heyday in the 1970's and...yes, I know all the words each and everytime!

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #64)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:46 PM

65. I do too! nt

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #43)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:45 PM

70. This should be an entire OP of its own

 

Soda or coke are both valid. Anyone who calls it "pop" is friggin terrorist! :p

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #70)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:54 PM

73. People who use "coke" as the generic name for pop

make me feel all jihad ragey.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:19 PM

18. First they came for "you guys", then they came for "you people", next they will come for...

 



And there will be no one left to speak up for me

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:03 PM

42. How is "you people" racist? If a white person says it to one black person to mean an

entire race, sure. That's sexist. That's a wrong usage.

What if a white teacher says it to a class of white kids? As in, You people are going to get detention if you don't settle down.

Context matters.

BTW, before everyone started overusing "folks," it, too, was considered regional.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:31 PM

57. How about "your guys's?"

Hey can I use your guys's phone for a sec?

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:18 PM

16. My grandmother used "folks," as did most of the folks in my extended family . . .

Folks are people in general, sometimes country or poor folk, oft times the composite of the general society around us, the common people from which we all sprang. It can be your kinfolk, of course, or just your parents, your folks who set you on the paths of the world. And it can be the simple, unaffected, open-hearted people you may love the most -- "just folks," and that says it all.

I especially like it when they diddle a tune or three, and regale me with some of the finest music I know: folk music.

It can be "people," too, but I prefer my roots.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:41 PM

29. If you think I made this OP to discuss how your family uses the word folks

 

Then I believe the *woosh* sound was so far over your head you didn't hear it

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:20 PM

19. My folks taught me

 

that folks is folks.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:31 PM

22. Are your folks high ranking figures in government?

 

Do they use the term to downsize the effect of an airstrike by referring to people as "some folks"?

If not, then we are on 2 separate pages. My dad's family is grapes of wrath type Okies. I know how folks is used colloquially as I also grew up with it. This isn't about colloquial family dinner table conversations... this is about replacing certain words in order to minimize the effect of a human tragedy.

"We bombed some folks" "We tortured some folks"... oh, doesn't sound too bad now. No big deal, carry on.

That is why I made the OP

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:15 PM

49. They're dead

 

So, no.

I, like many others in this thread, are trying to get you to lighten up.

Hey, if you insist on being angry, go for it. I've got better things to get angry about.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #49)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:05 PM

75. Thanks for the help

 

You lightened me up good

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #75)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:15 PM

79. Your folks should be proud of you.

 

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Response to pintobean (Reply #79)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:58 PM

84. They are

 

Don't worry about it

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:25 PM

20. Ffs. For folks sake. N/t

 

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:30 PM

21. Folks, you ain't heard nothin' yet.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:32 PM

23. I dislike its use almost as much as the use of "homeland."

"Attack on the homeland, "protect the homeland," etc. It sounds Hitler-ish.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:34 PM

25. Goodness, gracious

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:39 PM

26. This. /\

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:47 PM

34. Okay, ignore my post above.

Porky Pig may say it too.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:39 PM

27. I wonder what the FOLKS at DU think?

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:40 PM

28. I hate it; it always seems condescending to me.

 

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:42 PM

31. Since I'm one of the folks

 

that discusses other folks, I'm guessing folks like me will tell you "no".

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:46 PM

33. Corporations Are Folks.....

thanks to "Townspeople United".

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Response to global1 (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:05 PM

44. Townfolk

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:50 PM

36. so much anti-colloquialism here at DU

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:54 PM

38. Folks, I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream. . .

 

About me, about you. . .

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:03 PM

41. I prefer people to folks,

but I'm stuck up that way.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:10 PM

46. Doesn't bother me too much, but I hate..

"Gals." It sounds patronizing to me. I know, I know, it is the feminine of "guys" but it bugs me nevertheless. My ex used to say it instead of "girls" because he was TRYING to be less sexist but for whatever reason I thought gals was even worse. I'd tell him, 'just say young women' you can't go wrong.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:15 PM

48. Folks is OK with me

What the hell is wrong with it? Are people/folks afraid of have a freaking vocabulary? Let's make up derogatory meanings for every word and just quit communicating!! Ridiculous.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:27 PM

53. Me too

Can't stand it.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:30 PM

55. I like folk music, folk culture, folk tales, folklore, folk art.

The word "folk" can bear the meaning of "a people" imbued with a certain language or culture.

But it usually means just "people in general" nowadays.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:30 PM

56. And it's useful on twitter.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:31 PM

58. Yes yes and more yes. I loathe that term especially since Shrub used it to

on 9/11 to describe the AQ perps.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:33 PM

59. Folk is old English, people is middle english

So I suppose the old English "folk" came first and was replaced with the Latin-derived "people."

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Response to gollygee (Reply #59)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:49 PM

66. and here we go!

folk (n.) Look up folk at Dictionary.comOld English folc "common people, laity; men; people, nation, tribe; multitude; troop, army," from Proto-Germanic *folkam (cognates: Old Saxon folc, Old Frisian folk, Middle Dutch volc, Dutch volk, Old High German folc, German Volk "people". Perhaps originally "host of warriors:" Compare Old Norse folk "people," also "army, detachment;" and Lithuanian pulkas "crowd," Old Church Slavonic pluku "division of an army," both believed to have been borrowed from Proto-Germanic. Old English folcstede could mean both "dwelling-place" and "battlefield." According to Watkins, from PIE *ple-go-, suffixed form of root *pele- (1) "to fill," which would make it cognate with Greek plethos "people, multitude." Superseded in most senses by people. Generally a collective noun in Middle English, however plural folks is attested from 15c.

Old English folc was commonly used in forming compounds (59 are listed in the Clark Hall dictionary), such as folccwide "popular saying," folcgemot "town or district meeting;" folcwoh "deception of the public." Modern use of folk as an adjective is from c. 1850 (see folklore).


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=folk&allowed_in_frame=0

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #66)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:51 PM

68. Another etymology geek!

Kindred spirit!

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:33 PM

60. No.

 

I use it a lot and will continue to. Lol

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:39 PM

61. Probably for the sake of word variety

 

People this, people that, people whatever. Folks is a good synonym with a positive connotation.

So no. I do not think the word is overused.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:49 PM

67. Why would anyone have a problem with "folks?" I've heard it and used it all my life.

It's a warmer word than "people" as it connotes family or clan.

My Texas grandmother taught me eons ago, that

if you and your folks love me and my folks
like me and my folks love you and your folks
then never was folks since folks was folks love folks
like me and my folks love you and your folks

It's downright folksy.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:53 PM

69. Dubya Bush and his spinners did that after 911.

They even, jarringly, referred to the terrorists as "folks," ffs. The word revolts me now because that usage came out of a right wing "stink tank" as one that would somehow make Bush/Cheney and the repukes look better.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:45 PM

71. It's just one of the words I didn't shake off from the south.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:55 PM

74. I'll take folks over

Homeland. That's a half step away from Motherland. I don't care for the connotations of that.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:11 PM

77. Another word that is overused is "stuff". nt

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:14 PM

78. People and Folks are the main gang factions in Chicago.

 

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:15 PM

80. I think "people" and "persons" now implies corporations. "Folks" implies humans. nt

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:42 PM

81. unfortunately

Pres Obama does it all the time and it grates on my nerves

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:58 PM

82. When certain people use it

It usually sounds like a phony attempt to connect to the masses to me when politicians use that word, especially when they come from elite backgrounds and education. I seriously doubt that is a word you find in common use in those circles. They just use it to make themselves sound like they're one of the salt of the earth types.

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Response to GummyBearz (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:12 PM

83. I've used both. Folks is more informal or

referring to specific people or people I'm very familiar with. "People" is more formal, detached. "Folks" has has a friendlier vibe--for example, if labeling a group by race, which phrase sounds less threatening: white people or white folks?

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