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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:18 PM Nov 2015

What would Jesus say to godly Americans facing prospect of bloodthirsty Muslims on their doorstep?

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:42 PM - Edit history (4)

Assuming the haters are right and the refugees indeed are bloodthirsty terrorists, what does Jesus say about being confronted by "enemies"? Jesus says


“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you."


"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."


"Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy."


"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."


"If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? If you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."


"You have heard that it was said, 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.' "But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also."


"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles."


"Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."















What exactly is being preached in American churches cause hearing all this hate towards refugees one must conclude a lot of churches sure as hell ain't preaching anything Jesus said.












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What would Jesus say to godly Americans facing prospect of bloodthirsty Muslims on their doorstep? (Original Post) snagglepuss Nov 2015 OP
Really... cilla4progress Nov 2015 #1
I had been very religious, until 9/11 snagglepuss Nov 2015 #3
Inspiration for reading.. cilla4progress Nov 2015 #12
Religion can be used to excuse sins too BootinUp Nov 2015 #2
Why would that be that be the problem? snagglepuss Nov 2015 #8
in my opinion, they rely on forgiveness and faith instead of self examination BootinUp Nov 2015 #11
They believe in this Jesus edhopper Nov 2015 #4
ROFL. Bang on. nt snagglepuss Nov 2015 #7
Yeah you'd think those words would at least give them pause treestar Nov 2015 #5
I have to wonder whether this group ever heard of loving their enemy. snagglepuss Nov 2015 #6
they seem too willing to have enemies treestar Nov 2015 #9
Nail meet hammer. That is so true. What would they do without enemies. snagglepuss Nov 2015 #10
Very helpful explanation. cilla4progress Nov 2015 #13
"What if God were one of us?" cilla4progress Nov 2015 #14

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
1. Really...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

I would love to know how they square this with their conscience!

PS I'm a pagan and I bet I'm a whole lot closer to sacred than these Xtians!

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
3. I had been very religious, until 9/11
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:06 PM
Nov 2015

when I heard a commentator remark that religions are tribal. IT wasn't something I hadn't heard before but it really hit home, and it seemed especially true of the Abrahamic god (who I was so devoted to) which if real had allowed three religions in his name to vie with each other.

Now I'm more of a gnostic myself (the angry, jealous god of the OT being simply a demi-god) though I do give a lot of credence to the theory discussed in Tom Harper's book The Pagan Christ, that Christ was in fact Osiris and Mary, Isis.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
12. Inspiration for reading..
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

As a raised humanist, I did not read the bible as a child, though I have read many books and texts as an adult. I see the bible through a political lens, more than anything.

Thanks!

BootinUp

(47,138 posts)
11. in my opinion, they rely on forgiveness and faith instead of self examination
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:40 PM
Nov 2015

in the context of their own teachings. Hope that makes sense.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Yeah you'd think those words would at least give them pause
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:11 PM
Nov 2015

IMO many "Christians" are nothing about the content of Christianity. It is shorthand for "European" or "white" and their hatred of Muslims is really simply a hatred of brown people that they feel "permission" for the "PC police" to hate since they can try to identify that with terrorism. The terrorists acts of the few give them an excuse to judge all. Their "Christianity" is to cover that up. Most of them probably do not even go to church.

In black Christian churches, you probably would not hear this kind of thing. I doubt the Catholic Church would be that rabid either, and would even expect prayers for the refugees.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
10. Nail meet hammer. That is so true. What would they do without enemies.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:40 PM
Nov 2015

Ironically that is what they have in common with ISIS.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
13. Very helpful explanation.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:23 PM
Nov 2015

Thanks for the breakdown.

We will be spending Thanksgiving with my husband's sister and family, who are fundamentalist Christians and, so far as I know, Republicans. I am curious to learn their thoughts, though I doubt it will "come up." We had a Muslim exchange student from Afghanistan, and they were very kind to her. I'm just not sure of their theology ...

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
14. "What if God were one of us?"
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:24 PM
Nov 2015

"Just a slob like one of us..."

Your post makes me think of this song - one of my favorites.

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