Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:45 PM Nov 2015

On Bush & Timber

“The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done; and there is no new thing under the sun.” -- Ecclesiastes 1


Two days ago, short upon new reading material, I purchased a copy of Jon Meacham’s new book “The American Odyssey of George Herbert Walker Bush: Destiny and Power.” In part, I bought it because of the limited options when I got it; and in part because of some of the anti-Cheney & Rumsfeld information in the book’s reviews. More, in terms of my library, I have a good selection on modern presidents -- including the most toxic of republicans.

As a previous OP about the book on DU:GD accurately noted, the book is largely an exercise in cheerleading. Numerous important dynamics in Bush the Elder’s career are glossed over, at best, or completely ignored. Now, my opinion of this fellow is admittedly low …..but I can be objective enough to say this particular book is largely fluff. Perhaps its greatest value is found in tid-bits of gossip. It’s obvious weakness is it is shallow. Thus, one might question both the author’s intent, in putting this out at a time when Jeb is struggling in the republican primaries? And what impact, if any, it might have on voters? Can a hollow book be important?

The high point in gossip might be on page 291, when an enraged George W. Bush tells Garry Trudeau that he “really wanted to kick your ass” for the comic strip’s brutal humor. It’s good to know that the Bush family was offended by the truth in “Doonesbury.”

Perhaps the single best insight into the potential value of the book comes in a quote from Bush’s diary, durng the 1988 republican primary. It is best understood, I believe, in the fuller context of his loss to Reagan in the 1980 primaries. Bush had felt himself to be far more qualified for the office than Reagan. In fact, Bush holds Reagan in mild contempt: the crest of the newest wave of right-wing nuts, who’s appeal is entirely due to his use of the television.

For eight years of service as vice president, Bush plans his 1988 run. The book provides a thin history of the Iran-Contra scandal. It ignores that Bush’s role should have disqualified him from finishing the term as VP, much less ever serving for president. Yet, the ‘88 campaign was too important for the Bush family: he allowed others to twist in the wind for his actions.

In the 1988 republican primary, Bush found himself running against others, including Bob Dole, Jack Kemp, and Pat Robertson. The personal dislike between Dole and Bush is real -- in fact, Donald Rumsfeld campaigned for Dole. But Bush The Elder’s machine proves capable of defeating the opposition. Kemp attempts to strike a deal to get out of the race, in exchange for a promise of the vice presidency. But he was in no position to make such a request.

Bush realizes that the Dole supporters will fall in line -- for they are republicans. But other things strike him as different. He senses, when Donald Trump communicates that he would “be willing” to serve as VP, that the republican party was at risk of falling apart. What bothered him the most were the Pat Robertson supporters.

These people, he noted, were motivated by religious ideology, rather than political party. They were distinct from the followers of Barry Goldwater, or even Ronald Reagan (although they became a force during Reagan’s terms in office). They were mutants threatening mutiny, if they did not get their own way.

In Kingsport, Tennessee, candidate Bush encountered a Robertson disciple. “Look,” he told her, “this is a political campaign. We’ll be together when it’s over.” But the woman’s hostility towards him did not waver: she refused to shake his outstretched hand -- leaving Bush shaken. That night, he wrote in his diary:

“Still, this staring, glaring ugly -- there’s something terrible about those who carry it to extremes. They’re scary. They’re there for spooky, extraordinary right-wing reasons. They don’t care about Party. They don’t care about anything. They’re the excesses. They could be Nazis, they could be Communists, they could be whatever. In this case, they are religious fanatics, and they’re spooky. They will destroy this party if they’re permitted to take over. There is not enough of them, but this woman reminded me of my John Birch days in Houston. The lights go out and they pass out the ugly literature. Guilt by association. Nastiness. Ugliness. Believing the Trilateral Commission, the conspiracy theories. And I couldn’t tell -- it may not be fair to that one woman, but that’s the problem that Robertson brings to bear on the agenda.” (pages 325-6)

It is not difficult to apply this same thinking to Jeb Bush & Co. today. For the “smart son” is confronted not only by an up-dated version of a Reagan-like campaign -- by a fellow who offered to be his daddy’s VP -- and who is adapt at manipulating social media as the Gipper did TV -- but he also is confronted by the Ben Carson zealot-zombies. Registered republicans who are entrenched in the delusions of their religious belief systems, to the extent that they make a willful effort, each and every day, to deny reality. Indeed, to identify reality as “evil.”

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
1. Unfortunately for the USA, Pat Robertson rewrote the script on how to push a religion onto others
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 04:44 PM
Nov 2015

Thus the Evangelists being fanatical about their belief's and what others need to believe. This level of believe is very decisive because there is no discussion other than, "it is written by God, therefore true, we must follow." The fervent belief from these leaders and followers is if everyone does not believe like we do, God will punish all of us. The Evangelists are to this day, relentless.

As for the politics of the 1980's, it was a push back from 1960's -70's on making human life sustainable for the years to come, i.e. sociably, economically, environmentally, and etc. There were many groups with different agendas working loosely together if at all. The 1980's was mostly about consolidation of power, money and the media with a well scripted plan. A lot of people now realize the plan and in their own way, are attempting to change the consolidation trend started 35 years ago. The problem for many is the consolidation trend is centralized, whereas, freedom and rights of the individual are decentralized (coming from all directions), thus contained in effectiveness. For the future, it will be like guerrilla warfare with limited resources against a big machine with unlimited resources.

Just my opinion...

Peace and Love

\

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
2. the fundagelicals appeared precisely at the same time as the neocons, absolutist Israel lobby,
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 12:13 AM
Nov 2015

Team B, Rupert Murdoch, Pinonomics, the Sagebrush "Rebellion" by plushly-subsidized Westerners, the Powell Memo's think tanks--even a backlash in pharmaceuticals against asking the savages what plants their witch doctor used (it's not medicine if you don't have a white coat!)

it's no coincidence

it was well-funded

bought

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
3. The Powell Memo was a, "Honey Do List" agreed
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

Of course the backlash to labor began when FDR was out of office.

I think we are off the subject of the thread with that thought...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
4. perhaps not--see how easily Poppy got Pat's primary voters in line?
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

it's because there's no criterion other than being LABELED "a Christian"--not belief, and definitely not behavior: Reagan didn't go to the White House chapel once, and claimed he never went to church because he thought the Libyans would blow him up crossing the North Lawn and Lafayette Square ...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»On Bush & Timber