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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the terrorists moved up the date and changed the target
because he was angry with a coworker and decided to make a work celebration their first target, it's not terrorism?
Is that the meme?
The denial is fascinating in a weird sort of way.
randys1
(16,286 posts)I knew the ass that shot up PP was an asshole, rightwinger of course, but he is NOBODY and NOTHING without gunz
B2G
(9,766 posts)Someone else did. So they were either purchased and given to them, or stolen from whoever purchased them.
Either way, not legal.
randys1
(16,286 posts)easy for people to get them no matter their intentions.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Photographer
(1,142 posts)institute a buy back program and prosecute the hell out of those that don't comply.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Ban those too?
Photographer
(1,142 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)IMO.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)What denial?
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)People on CNN.
I would tell you to turn on the tv, but now that we have an ISIS connection, the workplace violence supporters might have to face facts, now.
B2G
(9,766 posts)There are plenty of examples right here.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I do not understand your question.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)So, they are obviously planning an attack for a lengthy period of time, and have many more IEDs and ammunition than they need for this one attack, so logically we can assume that more attacks or a larger attack was originally planned.
Assuming that there was a workplace argument, and the perps decided to make his co-workers his first target, does this preclude terrorism? Because he had an argument with someone?
If they changed the original unknown target to that of his co-workers, is it no longer terrorism? Or is it just workplace violence because they didn't get to pull off other acts of violence, as well?
In other words, since the perps were killed and couldn't commit any more acts of violence, can we just call it just another act of workplace violence? Would they have had the IED (that didn't explode) if they had not being planning terrorist attacks?
And does one really kill that many people over an argument whether or not Islam is a religion of peace?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I remember one person tried to dismiss it as just another gang-related shooting too. The people doing that have their own agendas and maybe they're scared for one reason or another.
Not that is matters anyway. Terrorism, racism or workplace shooting, it doesn't matter because in the end, dead is dead.
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Co-workers were killed. This wasn't roaring up to an outdoor café and killing strangers. Farook wanted to settle some scores, don't you think? He had fought with at least one of the victims.
At the same time, they were participating in the greater political/cultural war. That much appears clear, too. People who want it to be 100% terror or workplace violence are missing the mark.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Who knows, maybe these two saw the potential terrorism angle of "even at work you will not be safe". Take out people you hate and have a beef with on top of the idea that even a little office complex in random town USA is not safe, you need to fear for more than stadiums, subways and landmarks.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Or they figured it would be a "easy" first target since they were familiar with the layout etc.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)What in the world?
d_r
(6,907 posts)do they have accomplices that haven't moved up the date and changed the target?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)To their technical footprint the night befor the attack. So i doubt that whatever might have happened at the gathering was the catalyst to the attack.