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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:57 PM

Could my neighbors be in federal trouble?

My wife and I dealing with the two down stairs from our condo. Right inside the security door which is used for all 4 apatments there is a mat reading Merry Christmas. My Wife would have been fine with Season Greetings or Happy Holidays. My wife has left letters explaining her objections. But those have been rip down and the mat remains.


Today my wife received a package from amazon of stuff she ordered ON the package was written Merry Christmas and Christmas underline. We found the package on the steps to the condo. In order for the mailman to get in the buzzard needs rung or you need a key.


If one of these neighbors wrote this on my wife's package did they deface postal property? Can they be in trouble?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:58 PM

1. Nuke the site from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:59 PM

2. IF you can't be serious don't respond.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:04 PM

6. Just want to understand something here

Last edited Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:03 AM - Edit history (1)

You moved to a condo from the apartment that you lived in for 10 years until it was condemned? That's quite a step up--bravo.

As to your question, unless you can show with some certainty that your neighbor tampered with your mail, then the post office won't do anything about it whether you report them or not. At most, they'll open an incident report, and after 30 days or so it will get filed as "unresolved."


If it's an ongoing issue, then you might be able to lodge a credible complaint, but if you call to complain that you think your neighbor might be engaged in subversive Christmas-wishing, then, if you're lucky, the person at the post office will suppress their laughter until you hang up or walk away from the window. This is especially true now, when they're dealing with literal tons of mail; a complaint such as yours will be somewhere below "sock sale" on their list of priorities.

Hey, I get the underlying sentiment. I'm atheist, and I have no stomach for overbearing displays of proselytizing Christianity, but this fight will get you nowhere.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:42 PM

155. I got this far...

... and realized there was no need to go further and nothing to add.

"but if you call to complain that you think your neighbor might be engaged in subversive Christmas-wishing, then if you're lucky the person at the post office will suppress their laughter until you hang up or walk away from the window."

Classic!

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:15 PM

146. Use your common sense. The FEDS have limited resources.

And I can 100% guarantee they would not waste those resources checking your box for fingerprints to see if the neighbors touched it.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:38 AM

236. I'm being serious, the only objection should be if it was a shitty font

 

I'm not big into the "old classic" looking type




Now, if it is a 21st century looking mat it should be fine!





This is from an atheist



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Response to snooper2 (Reply #236)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM

264. Yeah, but all fucking bets are off if they used Comic Sans. There are limits. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #264)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:18 PM

410. Hey, I'm kinda font of Comic Sans. It's got my typo informal letters.

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #410)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:01 PM

411. Oh, Helvetica....are you being serif? nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #411)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:20 PM

413. Well, if I am to be franklin and candida, my original statement was a bit bold.

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #413)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:34 PM

414. If they don't trust their mail being delivered by the USPS...

they should try a Courier (new).

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Response to Orrex (Reply #414)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:07 PM

425. Some people just need to get with the Times (New Roman). nt

 

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #425)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:57 PM

431. You're not fooling anyone. We know your type!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #431)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:34 PM

538. .......O?

Don't be negative.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #264)

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:50 AM

605. I like Comic Sans for humorous texts. Why does everyone denigrate it?

I suspect it is just bandwagon hopping.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:08 PM

11. Amazon doesn't ship via USPS, does it? Even if they did, it would not be for tampering.

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We had packages stolen and opened by a neighborhood kid, and the Postal Inspector didn't do anything.

Perhaps if you want to pursue a religious-based defamation claim, but why the forwardness on the floor mat.

Put up something of your own that would piss them off.


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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:10 PM

14. Amazon does have

 

Some final delivery done by USPS

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:16 PM

19. Final segment delivery isn't really the same, as it is a ploy to use USPS services for near free.

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The packages are still under third-party shipping, even though USPS is the one with the infrastructure to drop off the package for them. You would probably need to contact the sender and they would follow through.

See, FexEx and UPS don't have the infrastructure to perform many final segment deliveries, so they contract with the post office, who makes about 1 penny a package in profit to perform this function. The whole goal for the other carriers is to cripple the USPS so they are not a threat to 1st Class and overnight shipping, by closing many of their regional distribution centers, as the other two build distribution centers right next to the USPS ones.

The whole plan is to Privatize profits and Socialize the expenses of the private carriers.

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In any event, something like this would not be handled by any of them, unless proof and harm were proven.


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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:36 AM

300. I think that's called SurePost with UPS.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:39 PM

109. Yes they do

I have had many packages from Amazon that sent via USPS. And sent all the way, not just USPS final dropoff. USPS is shown on the package tracking, and the tracking number is a USPS number.

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Response to SouthernLiberal (Reply #109)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:01 PM

118. Perhaps that came up as least cost shipping option. But still, no action will result from it.

.



(Note: I don't order from Amazon because they are the Wal*Mart of on-line storefronts... labor, local financial impact, tax dodges, etc.)


This seems to be a feud that was started by them and might have been kicked back.

But, without proof of who wrote the greeting/slight, there is no case--so it's a moot point.
Since there isn't proof, the message intent is nothing more than supposition.



I have a strong feeling that there is a need to be at battle with someone, whether it's BPD (about 12% of the population, primarily women, suffer from it), a prior slight, ethnicity, an odd stare, a loud noise at 10:05PM... whatever reason, and the floor mat is just an excuse to trigger a battle.


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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #118)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:32 AM

512. 12% of the population?

 

has BPD?

Lol whut!?

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #512)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:24 PM

613. How many are paranoid?

And how would I get my bubble pack other than inside those diaper-padded plain white or brown envelopes that Amazon was so discretely putting my kid's vape supplies within?

Nevermind the fact I have Informed Delivery and have regular missing mail of urgent importance reported as such on-line, to the Postmaster, and to Senator Brown's office. The aide said they were already in the process of investigation because there were lots of said complaints. The junk mail gets here just fine.

I'm ready to say I'm being targeted and harassed by virtue of the publication of my voter registration or election mail as a Democrat. (Remember all that tizzy about election fraud?) Paranoid, you bet!

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #118)

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 08:55 AM

601. I seem to be always at battle with Republicans.

Am I a sufferer?
😉

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:20 PM

203. Amazon does use USPS and I also had a package stolen

after the mail carrier just left in front of my apartment door. (My apartment manager saw it there and just kicked herself that she hadn't picked it up for me.)

The local postal inspector took my info but we both knew that, while I had a good idea of who may have taken it, nothing could be proved. Too bad to as the PO told me the contents were worth enough that it would have been a $10K fine.


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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 07:14 PM

611. Yes, Amazon sometimes uses USPS

I buy off Amazon and they often arrive via USPS.

Amazon, and sellers who sell through them, will use the most economical way to ship.
Sometimes packages are shipped via FedEx, UPS, etc to your city,
and then delivered to you by the post office.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #611)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 09:15 PM

612. That's called Final Segment Delivery. It's the say Companies Socialize Costs and Privatize Profits

Wow, this is a blast from the past, and a lot developed since then...


FedEX and UPS do not have the vehicles or manpower to perform many final segment deliveries.

What they do is lobby to cripple the USPS so they aren't a competitive threat to their next day services, but keep them viable enough to have the USPS perform the most costly portion of package delivery--that being the distribution center to the home or office. The post office makes one cent per package. That's right, just one cent profit.

The private carriers pocket the savings. Many USPS centers have a FedEx and UPS drop box and perform the receiving and sorting of packages, especially local ones. They will white label the packages, so you won't even know the private carriers never even touched the package and USPS did everything.

So, the private carriers use the quasi-government USPS to save money and stay viable, since neither of them could deliver the packages without huge equipment and labor expenses. They do this just a penny over USPS costs. But, they privatize the the profits that they bilk from their customers.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 09:27 AM

632. Amazon uses USPS

When, among other reasons, the other shipping companies screw up and the package doesn't get delivered. Know from personal experience.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:45 PM

43. Is that an 'Aliens' reference? nt

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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:51 PM

46. ...

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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:21 PM

124. Damn, I never know what the hell is going on. (I thought it was a joke)

 

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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:03 PM

50. If they interfered with the mail...

then maybe it's an illegal aliens reference.

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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:08 PM

54. Nice :-) nt

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:31 PM

72. GAME OVER, MAN!!!!

GAME OVER!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:50 PM

89. LOL!

[link:|

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Response to Orrex (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:50 AM

218. Cool story bro

 

this never happened.

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Response to Facility Inspector (Reply #218)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:04 AM

219. Nonsense.

They totally nuked the site from orbit.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #219)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:26 PM

275. The only thing that survived...

...was the doormat. And one slightly-singed door buzzard.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #275)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:47 PM

426. "Buzzymandias"

 

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless birdlegs of stone
Stand in the common enterence. Near them on the steps,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled beak and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on a package these words appear:
`My name is Buzzymandias, King of Doors:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level doormats stretch far away."

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #426)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:56 AM

451. LOL! Very nice!

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #426)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:01 PM

562. "lone and level doormats "

 

sheer...poetry,
haunting imagery of ancient mats, sensitive to lovers of scavenger avians...
breathtaking stultiloquence

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #426)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:50 PM

573. De Profundis, dude, De Profundis.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #426)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 05:24 PM

607. I missed your contribution, above, the first time around

and think it is so damn good, I am replying 2 years hence from this thread.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #607)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:40 PM

608. WOW! That is some work!!

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Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:33 PM

615. Amazing parody! Nice poetic justice!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:00 PM

3. Do you have video of the incident?

 

IF not, nobody is in trouble because you have no evidence to demonstrate who did it.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:02 PM

4. Consider yourself very lucky if that is the worst issue yoy have with neighbors.

I doubt if you could get it to stick, and what good would it do?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:02 PM

5. Unless you actually witnessed it or have video,

then, no, you have no proof that they did the defacing.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:04 PM

7. Without hard evidence, there really isn't a case.

Honestly, I would just let the mat thing go. It's too petty to get into neighbor disputes over it.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 12:15 PM

452. I agree.

 

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:05 PM

8. Why do you hate Christmas? n/t

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:45 AM

253. No, the WIFE hates Christmas

 

The character "diabeticman" never engages in action or has an opinion. Those roles are exclusively left to the "my wife" character. The rules of this game are very specific.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #253)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:13 PM

261. Yea, that got old and wore thin for me long ago. I'm left wondering why his wife doesn't just...

 

...sign up to the DU and let him off the hook speaking on her behalf all the time.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #253)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:31 PM

339. Maybe she hates commas too, because he sure never uses them

I'm serious.

Even in a message he claimed was from her, no commas.

But then he said he had been transcribing it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024398194#post22

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4404795

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:05 PM

9. Maybe, but 'de minimus' would likely be any 'ruling.'

I'd advise to let it go.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:06 PM

10. Even if you had video proof of your neighbors

writing on your mail, I doubt the postal authorities would about it other than maybe sending a letter to your neighbors that includes a copy of the federal statute that may have been violated.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:09 PM

12. Ah, an ongoing Kabuki play

I love it, I really do.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:29 PM

35. Exactly right. Andy Kaufman-esque, don't you think?

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:39 PM

153. Love me some Andy Kaufman!!

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:22 PM

101. Wasn't there something once about hopping across the bedroom floor while wrapped up in sheets?

 

I seem to remember the police being called in the middle of the night...

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #101)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:28 PM

104. Sounds like a clear case of Muslin terrorism

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #104)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:37 PM

107. Never-ending entertainment... is what you are.

 

Never-never ending.

In the face of such wit; I have nothing to offer but a sharp salute.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #107)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:53 PM

345. Oh my gosh.

I have to agree.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:55 AM

223. Good one.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:05 AM

224. He was called as a material witness

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Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:19 AM

231. Despite brutal cross-examination he could not be suede

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #231)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:27 AM

232. That was lamé

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Response to Orrex (Reply #232)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:32 AM

233. Pardon me; I must've satin something damn sparkly

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #233)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:34 AM

234. Curses! Foiled again!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #234)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:42 AM

238. Far be it from me to knitpick

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #238)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:44 AM

241. This whole thread is sew predictable.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #241)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:47 AM

243. Twill be a relief when it's done

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #243)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:02 PM

266. I'm a seersucker for a good pun. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #266)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:52 PM

277. I guess you could do worsted than this thread...

But not much.

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Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:20 PM

296. We've been crewel to the OP. We should have damasked our mockery better. nt

 

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:07 AM

299. Weave gone from bad to Worcester

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:36 AM

303. Lettuce edge back from the wrong side, lest we be accused of being viscose. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #303)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:14 AM

304. The whole subthread has me in stitches

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Response to Hekate (Reply #304)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:18 AM

312. We have nothing moire to offer than our purls of wiseassdom

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Response to Hekate (Reply #304)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:31 AM

314. Kudos to the OP, for his excellent whole cloth tale of the Christmas buzzard. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #314)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:58 AM

318. That Christmas buzzard is getting his goose cooked. What kind of gravy goes with that?

I really don't want to think about what kind of stuffing a Christmas buzzard would have.

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:20 PM

327. Advice to OP: DISCRETION IS THE BETTER PART OF VELOUR

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:52 PM

333. Omg

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #333)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:42 AM

356. Can't believe

no one has pointed out that this whole thread is a damn FABRICATION!

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Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:35 AM

417. I can beat that:

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Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:20 PM

432. I'm a frayed knot

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #327)

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 01:59 AM

468. knit picking

even though it is a bit of a yarn

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Response to Orrex (Reply #241)

Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:39 PM

598. and pinboy can needle with the best of them!

You can't pull the wool over HIS eyes!

I gotta get out of this thread......

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #231)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:23 AM

248. But the prosecution witness was 3 sheets to the wind so they lost the pillow case. nt

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #248)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:25 AM

258. The whole thing was a sham.

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Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:14 PM

280. Judges don't allow that, duvet?

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:15 AM

305. Can anything at all be selvedged?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #305)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:03 PM

372. I feel like some on this thread are bedskirting around the issue.

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #372)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:13 AM

374. For some, it's comforter that way

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Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:05 AM

376. I guess in the scheme of things it really doesn't mattress that much.

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #376)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:14 AM

378. Still, hope springs eternal

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Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:22 AM

380. That's a nice blanket statement.

 

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Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:19 AM

387. The future's not ours to see. What wool be wool be.

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Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:03 PM

407. True. That thought helps cushion my anxiety.

 

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Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:27 AM

434. I'm sure it's a comfort to the OP as he gets pillowried

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Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:16 PM

564. Sounds like some people are down on the OP

 

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:47 PM

539. You just -had- to needle 'em on that point, didn't you?

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:59 PM

566. Muslin? I'd say Linenist or Satinist myself n/t

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Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:43 PM

599. So now we've turned this whole thing into Satin-worship?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:10 PM

13. I'm gonna go ahead and put my neck out there and

 

Wish you a merry christmas.

My god, PLEASE do not alert on me for being so obnoxious. I am so bold, some times it gets the better of me

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:15 PM

17. This is a serious matter and you want make fun

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:19 PM

22. How is it a serious matter?!

Someone wrote on a box. Nothing was damned, tampered with, stolen, or ruined.

Obnoxious? Sure.
Serious? No.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:23 PM

25. Actually, it's not a serious matter.

 

Someone, somewhere wrote "Merry Christmas" on an Amazon package left on your doorstep.

In my neighborhood, people steal Amazon packages left on doorsteps.

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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:26 PM

31. In my neighborhood they only steal them

if they haven't been sprayed by a tomcat already.

There's a reason I have everything shipped to work.

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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:03 PM

119. Someone stole my neighbor's Christmas tree from Amazon last week.

Who steals a Christmas tree?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #119)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:12 PM

122. Whoever it was, tell them to take a bough

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Response to Orrex (Reply #122)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:01 AM

381. I'm afraid they might branch out into stealing menorahs and such.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #119)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:36 PM

130. I found the security camera footage.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #130)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:42 PM

156. Well played...well played....

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #156)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:03 PM

201. x2

 

LOL

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #130)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:59 PM

198. lol.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #130)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:37 PM

288. DUzy!

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Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:46 PM

360. Ha!

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #119)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:25 PM

412. Someone in Springfield, Missouri, evidently...

My sister-in-law and her husband returned home to find that someone had cut down and removed a small spruce tree growing in their back yard.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #119)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:08 AM

629. Someone that doesn't realize there is a Christmas tree in

that box?

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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:48 PM

181. In my neighborhood, people bring me packages the PO guy left at THEIR door

and leave a cute note with it.

( somebody is gonna have to explain to me what this "Merry Christmas" problem is all about...hopefully before I deck my halls)

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #181)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

620. Can that not result in serious injury if halls are decked?

😝

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:24 PM

27. It's only as serious as you want to make it.

.


Apparently, by starting some issue with your neighbor, you have proven yourself not to be an atheist, but an activist acting as an atheist. A true atheist doesn't give a shit as to who does what, since they view any religion as a sham, not believing in a higher power. If you are not an atheist, why the intollerance with other religions?


So they put out a mat, so it might be against the property management codes, it's not your job to be the police over this matter. If it bothers you, take it to property management for them to follow-up on. Put out something of your own, if you want to 'get back at them' or to 'get them to stop.'


I'll give you a classic example, from a guy at work:

His neighbor built an in-ground pool that changed the runoff so it began to flood their backyard. He went back and forth with them for a year, then finally, in the spring, he mounted several bird feeders and filled them with wildberries. The birds would take the berries, fly into the guys swimming pool to dunk them and drink, then shit all over his concrete and in the pool, wild berry shit that stained everything. Within weeks, the guy came to him complaining and he said he'd take them down when the runoff issue was addressed. Two weeks after that, the guy complied.

That's how you passive-aggressively deal with types that annoy. Leaving notes is confrontational.



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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:09 PM

55. With all respect, Diabeticman, it is not a serious matter. You may want to

escalate this fight with your new neighbor, but you will never win anything but a title for yourself: "neighborhood jerk." The idiot who wrote on your mail has that title now, and will be happy to transfer that title to you.

Please just back off, treat everyone in your apt house to a vague wave and a smile, and get on with the more important things in life.

Edited to add: I'm an atheist and if I was so silly as to take something like a Christmas doormat seriously, I'd have died of a stroke long ago.

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Response to Nay (Reply #55)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:45 PM

84. The key to winning a "who's a bigger asshole" contest

is to let the other guy win.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #84)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:52 PM

90. Yep. But so many people just can't let the other guy win. I think that's the

case here.

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Response to Nay (Reply #90)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:22 PM

274. I'm not sure. I think the key word is "my wife".

While the OP may be okay with letting things slide, it pisses his wife off, and he has to live with her when she's all pissed off about stuff like this. Some wives (or husbands) have the expectation that their spouse will do something about the problem, and if they don't, then they might be seen as part of the problem too. It's bad enough to have your spouse all angry about something, but even worse when she's angry at you too.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:31 PM

70. dude, your thread is about an entry mat that says "Merry Christmas"

and a potentially sharpie-d amazon package.


I'm an Atheist. I know something about the shit actual Atheists sometimes have to put up with. This doesn't really qualify.

I suggest you just buy a new mat. From Amazon!

http://www.amazon.com/Doormat-Welcome-Non-Slip-Washable-Bathroom/dp/B015ZGW3X0



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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #70)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:34 PM

105. Warren you're not taking this matter seriously

It is very possible these people evaded the condo buzzard. You have no idea what they are capable of.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #105)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:16 AM

220. I am dying laughing.

Tears running down my face laughing. I waited and waited for somebody to bring up the condo buzzard and you did.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #220)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:11 AM

227. bwahahaha

to all of this... hahaha

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Response to Kurska (Reply #105)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:22 AM

306. Condo buzzards get very irritable when people carrion. Those beaks are sharp, too.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #70)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:37 AM

507. But that one only got three stars.

According to the review, it wasn't very durable.


This one looks good!

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #70)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:28 AM

532. Atheism 2.0

Great Ted Talk by Alain de Bottom - those religious folks should not get all the rituals!!

https://www.ted.com/talks/alain_de_botton_atheism_2_0?language=en

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:23 PM

151. This isn't a serious matter. At all.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:51 PM

160. The reason people are making fun of it is because its not a serious matter.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:34 PM

173. You call this serious? There are

 

families planning 14 funerals.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:01 AM

212. It is only a serious matter in your mind

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:38 PM

621. Would that be boatneck, v-neck, scoop neck, cowl or crewneck?

Asking for a non-friend...

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:11 PM

15. I'm curious about how the buzzard feels about being rung for entrance.


Seems kind of harsh.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:15 PM

18. He just has to get used to it and carrion somehow

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:26 PM

32. Damn you, sir.

Damn you.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:40 PM

40. Adding one more comment, continuing to eat a dead horse! nt

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Response to Orrex (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:20 PM

98. You know what they say..."No guts, no glory"

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #98)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:40 PM

154. I think you meant "No guts, no gory"

 

but yours works too

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:11 PM

58. Pinboy, Pinboy, Pinboy. Must I always leave this smilie for you?




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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:40 PM

79. I actually did laugh out loud that time. Thanks!!

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #79)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:38 PM

185. so did I



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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:43 PM

82. Wow

That made wadding through this thread worthwhile.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:00 PM

189. Now I have to get another beer out of the fridge. Dammit.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:17 PM

97. LMAO! I was waiting for someone to ask this.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:39 PM

108. I think it's neat that they have buzzards working their secured

entrances.

I'm sure they give them table scraps. which should be pretty good this
time of year.

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Response to raccoon (Reply #108)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:42 PM

423. "On the First day of Christmas my true love gave to me / A Door Buzzard for the common entery"

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:00 PM

141. My front door has a cardinal!

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #141)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:59 PM

328. I can wholly see that

Nice to see a college man finding employment.

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:00 PM

329. ...

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:39 PM

342. I hope nobody let the buzzard in

They're vultures!

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:58 PM

540. I suspect it's in that position because the "Door-Buzzard" is not

a protected and sacred bird of Artemis, unlike its cousin, the "Buzzard-Hawk."

VIII) BUZZARD-HAWK (Greek triorkhes?)

Aelian, On Animals 12. 4 (trans. Schofield) (Greek natural history C2nd to 3rd A.D.) :
"There are in fact several species of Hawks . . . They are allotted separately to many gods . . . the ocypterus is a servant of Apollon . . . and the buzzard, as it is called, of Artemis."


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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:11 PM

16. Since others have addressed the postal issue: My two cents.

Why stir up trouble over something as insignificant as a door mat? It's not like a creche at city hall. Ignore it and it will go away in a few weeks. Leaving letters for the neighbors is just stirring up bad feelings all around. You probably pass other Christmas decorations in your condo building or complex every day. This is just one more.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:21 PM

23. Let's see:

They decorate a natural deal without our input! THEY HAVE YET TO HOLD A MONTHLY MEETING ONLY PROXY VOTING WHICH CAN BE RIGGED! SO EVEN THOUGH MY WIFE WHO FOLLOWS YULETIDE TRADITIONS AND TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL OTHERS BELIEF IS SLAPPED IN THE FACE!

It is one thing if it is directly infront of that condo door it shouldn't be in front of a common door.


Sorry for wanting respect!

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:37 PM

38. If she's that respectful of others' beliefs

then why is she up in arms over a Merry Christmas doormat? This is private property. Let it ride, man.

I'm an atheist, but I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick (HEY! GET YOUR DOOR BUZZARD AWAY FROM THAT DEAD DOG!) about a doormat at a condo. That just doesn't rise to the level of my business.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:27 PM

171. "(HEY! GET YOUR DOOR BUZZARD AWAY FROM THAT DEAD DOG!)"

You win DU for the day.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:19 PM

61. is there a homeowners association

 

you can make a complaint if the neighbors are in breach of the bylaws.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:26 PM

67. If she is that tramuatized by a door mat, goodness, just wipe your feet on it every time

you go in and out. That'll show'em.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #67)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:26 PM

170. Best answer. Really. Choose your battles.

A door mat that says "Merry Christmas" is not worth the trouble.

This afternoon I took a good friend of mine--who happens to be Jewish--to
see The Nutcracker. I told her it was a Hanukkah present--my treat-- and wished her
Happy Hanukkah when we left. We both had a wonderful time and enjoyed the ballet
very much.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #170)

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:30 PM

489. But it's a slap in deface to his wife!1!!

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:24 PM

102. Do you understand the meaning of the word "respect"?

It's not coming through that you do.

When someone gives a gift, it is disrespectful to demand that it be consonant with your tradition rather than the giver's.

So it is the season of mud as well as the holidays, and someone got a doormat, and they thought - if I put this in front of the group entrance, it will be nicer for everyone. That is in no way an insult to you or your wife.

If someone puts up a menorah at work, I love it, although it's not my tradition. If someone greets me with "Salaam alaikum", I don't firmly admonish the person to say something else. The person just said something very nice to me (Peace to you) and it has deep meaning and significance within their tradition. I smile happily and say "Thank you. And to you." And my happiness is genuine.

If we have a holiday party at work, I generally expect to see a mix of dishes and traditions, and I like it.

Regarding the package, someone did a nice thing for you, and again, you are taking umbrage. Giving gifts and helping other people is sort of traditional at this time of year.

Be wary. If you can't accept the traditions of other people and show them respect, you may soon be marked down as the building Grinch.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:06 PM

121. how would you feel

if you got a message that read: "Have yourself a very crappy christmas!"

Personally I think that the grinch has got nothing on you.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:39 PM

205. Sing Christmas carols off-key

whenever you stand on the offending mat (or put those singing christmas cards under the mat to be engaged when you step on it). Or spray it with woodchuck urine. Behavior modification calls for extreme action!

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:13 AM

213. Let it go

This is not in the Spirit of Yule. You are creating hate instead of love.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:06 PM

325. Wait. What? They decorate a natural DEAL?

This changes everything!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:17 PM

20. Your condo has a buzzard?!

That's bad-ass.

On a more serious note, are the two of you ever not completely miserable? Who gives a shit about a mat? It's private property.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:22 PM

24. This is a common enterence!

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:24 PM

26. Buzzards aren't common at any entrance. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:27 PM

33. Maybe it's a door buzzard.

Lots of places have those.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:52 PM

91. lol

 

Door buzzard!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:44 AM

242. Buzz Buzzard?

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:06 PM

190. Dude, your killing me.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:02 AM

492. OK, that's the one I laughed at. (so far)

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:39 PM

196. so what?

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:39 PM

616. Buzzard



Buzzer

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Response to Codeine (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:26 PM

30. Lol!

Mine has an eagle

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:52 PM

47. My can-do condo has a condor, if you'll forgive my candor

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Response to Orrex (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:58 PM

48. My bldg. management frowns on noise, so I have to make do with a turnkey vulture

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #48)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:59 PM

49. I wonder if the wife's package from Amazon was raptor unwrapped.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:05 PM

51. All things being eagle, I'd guess it was ducked out for the holiday that shall not be named

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #51)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:06 PM

52. I hate to admit it...

but I'm not going to top "turnkey vulture."

Again, damn you sir.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:27 PM

68. It was offal.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #68)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:38 AM

375. Yule regret that!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:55 PM

92. I was struggling to keep up with you, LOL

You really keep me on my talons!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #92)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:09 PM

191. You are quite talon-ted.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #191)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:17 AM

379. I'd better not get in my carcass I'm laughing so hard I might drive off the road.

 

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #51)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:37 PM

77. I hate wren that happens. It's quite a birden on his shoulders, but

toucan play at that game.

Hope he doesn't get all emutional and resort to violence like Steven Seagull.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:50 PM

159. Serious question...

Raptor as in bird or dinosaur??? Cause I mean, a raptor dinosaur could wreck your shit...

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #159)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:53 AM

528. ...

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Response to Quackers (Reply #528)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:03 AM

530. Well played...lol

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Response to Orrex (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:11 PM

192. Don't you mean 'unraptored?'

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Response to blackspade (Reply #192)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:30 AM

307. I'm en-raptored waiting to find out!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #49)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:19 AM

247. Probably raptored with a rib-bone tied in a bow.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:16 AM

504. TURNKEY vulture

OMG

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Response to Orrex (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:45 PM

113. G'ah! I didn't think this thread would get any funnier~

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:39 PM

39. !...



TYY

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:09 AM

226. That top one is permanently associated with the word buzzard for me...

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:25 PM

65. It's the traditional Christmas Buzzard.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #65)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:53 PM

139. And now, WMMS lays the hard stuff on ya,... Merry Christmas!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:17 PM

21. No trouble, but here's a fun idea...

 

Next time you see this particular neighbor while you are leaving, smile, say hi, wish them a Merry Christmas, then say, "can't talk now, I'm off for a meeting with the postal inspector. He's starting an investigation into my mail being tampered with. Seeya later!"

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:25 PM

28. Two points

1) IMO, your wife is out of line to ask that the mat be removed.
2) No one should have written on the packaging, but if it was on the outside, and the contents weren't damaged, who cares? No the USPS, that's for sure.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:25 PM

29. Perhaps your wife should stop being a pain in the ass.

I have been an atheist my entire life. I could not possibly care less about something as innocuous as a "Merry Christmas" doormat. I have much more pressing concerns.

I'm more interested in how they trained a buzzard to function as a doorman.

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Response to Throd (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:31 PM

36. Exactly, a true atheist doesn't believe and thinks stuff like that is silly. nt

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:28 PM

34. Choose your battles carefully...

Don't sweat the small stuff, etc... I think you should just let this go, not worth the extra stress that can affect your and her's health

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:41 PM

42. +1000

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:49 PM

88. Exactly! I just roll with stuff like this. Life is often frustrating enough without creating more

frustration IMO.

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:38 PM

132. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:38 PM

176. I agree, choose your battles

I can understand it is very aggravating, but there is little to no chance of victory here. even if the law were clear, the feds would not have the ambition or courage to prosecute.

If you simply can not let it go, get a video camera set up outside your front door, next season put a doormat out on your porch that says something like "Humbug" or 'sappy holidays'. Maybe a traditional santa face but modified to be cross eyed or nearly toothless. that should annoy them plenty.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:33 PM

37. What a wonderful human being you sound like. n/t

 



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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:41 PM

41. Season Greetings

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:48 PM

44. Have to Rec this

For entertainment value

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:50 PM

45. No

 

unless they wrote over any official marking of the package like postal due, or address,s and then it is shaky at best.

My guard writes apartment numbers on packages often... so they can contact the owners and we can pick them up.

Now that is a serious answer.

My recommendation, you live in private property, the person holding the merry christmas mat is doing it on private property... leave it very well alone. This is not a government matter.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:08 PM

53. Ignore it,for heaven's sake.

If your merchandise was okay why bother about it?

Waste of time.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #53)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:38 PM

78. "For heaven's sake"?

Now you're adding insult to injury!

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Response to Codeine (Reply #78)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:08 PM

541. Or buzzkill to buzzard.

Bzzzzzt!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:09 PM

56. replace the doormat with with this one:

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #56)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:50 PM

115. I vote for this as the solution lol nt

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:53 AM

244. I used to have that one.

But it succumbed to the cats using it as a cat scratcher. My new one reads: "Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit! Look who's here!"

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #244)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:06 PM

259. I used to have one that said "GO AWAY"

which might also be appropriate, given the OP's personal War on Christmas.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:03 AM

531. What about this one?

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Response to Quackers (Reply #531)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:10 PM

556. Ha!

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Response to Quackers (Reply #531)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:16 PM

557. hahaha

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Response to Quackers (Reply #531)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:19 AM

623. That is just

too funny!

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Response to avebury (Reply #623)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:38 AM

625. I can't believe it's been four years since that post.

I’m feeling old.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:09 PM

57. regarding the mat, i would just enjoy stomping and tramping mud on it.

regarding the package, i doubt it is of great concern to the usps as long as the they did not interfere with the delivery (they didn't obscure the addressee) and did not damage it.

"damage" here is open to interpretation. obviously had they put a swastika on it that would be easily recognized as damaging it. but currently shoving "merry christmas" down someone's throat is not widely recognized as being as obnoxious as it really is. it's quite unlikely that any judge or bureaucrat is likely to think it worth their while to intervene. look at the lame defense of "in god we trust" on our currency.

(to those who dispute this point, note that o.p. had made it clear that earlier "merry christmas" messages were not well received. one could argue that the first time was innocent and well-intended, but if someone keeps it up after being notified that it is not taken well, then it is plainly obnoxious to continue.)

in short, you're right, but you're not going to get any joy challenging it.

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Response to unblock (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:43 PM

81. I agree with you.

I think the best move is to use the doormat for its supposedly intended purpose. Diabeticman, go get a cheap pair of galoshes, go for a walk outside, walk on as much mud, dog shit, bird shit, and anything else nasty you can find, and scrape it all off onto the doormat. Do this over and over again. Try not to be seen, because someone is sure to be offended that you're using this particular doormat as a doormat.

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Response to unblock (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:57 PM

93. I would find it rather symbolic and satisfying to have it there wiping my feet on it.

Imagine if it said "Welcome Atheist" and everyone wiped their feet on it. I would leave well enough alone and get enjoyment wiping my feet on it.

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Response to unblock (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:23 PM

150. Exactly.

If it's that much of an annoyance, track mud, dog crap, whatever, all over it, and take satisfaction from it, however petty it might be.

As for the package, it seems to me that this is clearly a case of somebody realizing just how easily somebody else's goat can be gotten. Not "tampering" in any legal sense of the term.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #150)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:47 PM

158. i disagree about the "just how easily" part. this is exactly the problem.

too many are dismissive of other peoples' feelings when it comes to things like this.

as i noted above, there is a difference between the first time someone says something religious or quasi-religious and gets an adverse response and subsequent times.

writing "merry christmas" and underlining it on private mail intended for specifically the one person you already know is offended by that very phrase is deliberately obnoxious. it's not a matter of being easily offended. getting in a big uproar about the very first time someone says that to you, sure. but after you've made your position clear? no, the recipient of such treatment has every right to be completely pissed about such rude behavior.

whether or not anything can effectively be done is the only thing really up for reasonable debate. getting pissed about it is not.

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Response to unblock (Reply #158)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:32 PM

184. As others have also said...

...you pick your battles. I agree the messages on the mail are obnoxious, but responding will just ratchet up things more. Is it worth it?

ON EDIT: I also wonder just what the letters said that were ripped down. As we've told our kids when they were teased, people who see easily riled targets tend to keep piling on. Best to be the grownup and move on. If there is some concern about packages being defaced, can they make arrangements for a neighbor to take them if they aren't home (provided they are on friendly terms with any of their neighbors), or give the post office instructions not to leave them and they will pick them up at a PO branch?

This time of year you just have to put up with a lot of personally annoying stuff. That's just the way it is.

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Response to unblock (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:12 AM

384. You mean give it sort of a ... tramp stomp?

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #384)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:37 AM

421. ROFL!

actually "stamp" works there, as in "stamping grounds" or "to stamp out".

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:13 PM

59. This is war! Scorched earth! Nail that mat to their damn door!

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #59)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:21 AM

403. lol

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:16 PM

60. print this poster and hang it on the door

 

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:19 PM

62. I have to kick this...

For it's shear entertainment value. Really, what reasonable thinking person spends any time worrying about a door mat?

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Response to abakan (Reply #62)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:22 PM

64. Did you hear the one about the persecuted atheist bull in Spain?

His neighbor's matador said "Merry Christmas."


Wait. That's doesn't quite work. Hmm...

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Response to Orrex (Reply #64)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:32 PM

73. so the guy says to the genie, "What the hell am I supposed to do with a sixteen inch PIANIST?"

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #73)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:44 PM

111. Sounds like he needs a tiny organ.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #64)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:21 PM

99. That sounds like papal bull to me! :) - nt

 

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Response to Orrex (Reply #64)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:50 PM

343. That's not believable

Why would a Spanish bull speak English?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #343)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:55 PM

349. I didn't want to believe him either, but he seemed to sincere.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #64)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:11 AM

383. Speaking of bulls, I'm bullish on the buzzard thread. It's going places!

 

That was for you old-timey DUer types.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #383)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:16 AM

386. Kudzu BE any more obvious?

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #386)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:00 PM

406. Vine, next time I'll be more subtle.

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #406)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:14 PM

542. You'll find olive us in the garden,

both the corny ones and the flakes.

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Response to abakan (Reply #62)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:33 PM

74. Well, exactly. It's much ado about nothing, and reminds us all, hopefully, to not

become that person who's always hollering, "Get off my lawn!!!!" I often notice that folks like that are elderly men who just have no one to yell at/order around anymore, so everyone who passes by becomes a target.

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Response to abakan (Reply #62)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:04 PM

95. This is I don't drink with you level awesome.

 

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #95)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:08 PM

183. hee...someone pointed out that thread.

 

Very funny.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #95)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:01 PM

200. Hey, you owe that guy beer money

I'm pretty sure.

And travel money too.

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #200)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:14 PM

295. O, Jesus, not that guy. I almost left DU over that idiot. nt

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #200)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:13 PM

347. and many experiences. nt

 

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:21 PM

63. Your only hope would be if the package had

 

Some kind of Islam or Allah reference. Then you could call the post office and say Muslims desecrated your package, and I'm sure they would look into it. Otherwise, don't mind others throwing their christian religion in your face. We all have to put up with it. Someday, I hope we celebrate Winter Solstice instead of Christmas.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:26 PM

66. ever hear the phrase 'don't sweat the small stuff'?

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #66)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:41 PM

110. Have you ever read his previous threads about his condo neighbors?

It's clear he's never heard of "don't sweat the small stuff".

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #110)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:39 PM

133. I CLEARLY have not been paying enough attention!

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #133)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:41 PM

135. It's been quite a few months since I've read an installment of Condo Neighbors from Hell

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #135)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:36 PM

174. I seem to recall that the "wife"

put protest posters in the windows about the pets issue... So, I guess that's okay but a Christmas Mat in a COMMON area isn't?

They sound crazy to me!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:30 PM

69. best thread ever (well, after "blowing up the moon!!)

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:31 PM

71. Blowing up the moon was probably the neighbor's idea, too

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Response to Orrex (Reply #71)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:36 PM

76. IT IS A COMMON LUNAR ENTERENCE!! nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:48 PM

85. Whoa, there. No need to go...POSTAL.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #85)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:36 PM

106. Y'all are cracking me up!

This thread is comedy gold

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #85)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:23 PM

368. Hey, what is DU for if not to PUSH THE ENVELOPE?!

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:22 PM

100. MOON BUZZARDS

GAME OVER, MAN! GAME OVER!

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #100)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:46 PM

136. Buzz Ardrin

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Response to Enrique (Reply #136)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:57 PM

140. ...

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Response to Enrique (Reply #136)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:46 AM

509. Buzz Aldrin knows how to deal with these kind of situations...

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #100)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:45 AM

353. This will swing the proxy vote!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #71)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:44 PM

83. Well sure, who know what kind of incendiary mat the moon had out?!

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:55 PM

163. EVAR!!!!!!!!

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #69)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:20 AM

215. ahhhhh the memories

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #69)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:28 AM

505. what will be the name of this classic

The Buzzard Thread?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #505)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:47 AM

513. The Door Buzzard thread, of course

"The thread of the mat of The Holiday That Shall Not Be Named" is a bit unwieldy, don't you think?

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #513)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:19 PM

543. The Door Buzzard Thread has a nice ring to it

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Response to Skittles (Reply #505)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 06:08 PM

609. News from the future: This now is a classic Lounge thread!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:36 PM

75. omg this thread!



not laughing at your OP Diabeticman, but the Door Condors!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:40 PM

80. There are a lot of things in this life that are worth worrying about.

But this is not one of them. I would say it ranks well below the question of why socks go missing in the dryer and whether the light in the refrigerator goes out when you close the door.

Don't sweat the small shit. You'll be much happier.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #80)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:09 PM

278. Have you noticed that not only

 

do socks go missing in the dryer, but the wire hangers multiply?

My son, the physicist, once explained to me that socks are the larval form of hangars.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #278)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:41 PM

282. But if socks are the larval form of hangars,

how come you don't find hangars in the dryer? Or do they go somewhere else to pupate? A conundrum, indeed.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #282)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:00 PM

284. They are very, very sneaky.

 

I suppose I could ask physicist son for elaboration on this, but my guess is that it's going to involved quantum mechanics and string theory and I'd got lost after the third or fourth equation.

The son really is a physicist, heading for a PhD is astrophysics, and isn't remotely into anything that even vaguely smacks of woo, so when he told me the socks as larval forms of hangars, I almost fell over. He does have an excellent sense of humor.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #278)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:04 PM

285. I wish my hangers would multiply...

I have to buy them!

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #285)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:27 PM

287. It's only the wire hangars that multiply.

 

I suspect you don't lose socks in the dryer, either.

Ever since I switched over to plastic hangars, I don't lose socks and my hangar population hasn't increased.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #278)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:52 PM

344. No, that's wrong

When you lose a sock, the universe returns a penny.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #344)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:57 AM

354. Not to me it doesn't. I never get a penny.

 

On a slightly more serious note, I have had things show up in the dryer that weren't mine, to wit one green towel (this was about 1991) and one pair of men's slacks (in 2008).

I have a friend who has had a pair of shoes and two sweaters materialize at different times in his closet.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #354)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 02:01 AM

500. Sneak in to his house and leave one new shoe in his closet.

He'll go nuts waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #500)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:38 AM

533. LOL! Since the one time he got a pair of shoes,

 

that would actually be funny. Alas, he lives in Pittsburgh, I'm in Santa Fe. No good opportunity to sneak into his house.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #354)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 03:35 AM

506. Sorry about the green towel and my socks

Sometimes I just feel impish.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #506)

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:29 PM

544. You lost your towel?

Some hitchhiker you are!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:48 PM

86. My advice: Pick your battles

In the scheme of things, this is sooooo not worth it.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:48 PM

87. LOL All I gotta say is be thankful these are your problems

Wake up every day kissing your wife that these are the small demons that plague you every day, because a lot of us got real shit going on and would love a life where picking out the right drapes would be a cause for anxiety LOL

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Response to zigby (Reply #87)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:24 PM

290. Welcome to the DU!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:00 PM

94. IF they were open to getting in trouble, would you/your wife get them in trouble??

If so, glad you are not my neighbors.

Apparently they are busting your chops for being annoying, but federal charges?!?

Yeesh.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:12 PM

96. I know they are not cute, colorful, or attractive,

but Buzzards do have a purpose. Especially out here in the Country.

So, you need to stop "buzzard needs rung" before I report you to the Humane Society. Does your wife support this Bird of Prey abuse, too? Maybe I will just call your local Wildlife Resource Agency for a rescue.

Let him free!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:26 PM

103. You are being skepticial

Occurence like this happens but you are getting too skeptical in that matter. I see young couple getting sick/worried,.... about rediculous things.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:44 PM

112. Wait.... you got upset about a DOOR MAT!?

 

Dude... pick your battles.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #112)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:15 PM

168. Plus if the issue is door mats, for anyone who hates Christams -

You now get to wipe your feet over the offensive words!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:49 PM

114. Go walk in the mud. Problem solved. --nt

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:50 PM

116. No, they can't be in trouble.

I'm amazed that in the year since you moved in you and your wife have still not learned how to get along with your neighbors. But then again, you're taking very very minor "issues" and are creating an all out war. I'm so thankful that I don't live next to crappy neighbors.

You and your wife both need a hobby. Or sell the fucking condo.

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #116)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:55 PM

346. Not in trouble, far from it. I heard they're being considered for sainthood

I mean all of diabeticman's neighbors.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:51 PM

117. Did Your Wife Ever Open The Door?

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026652265

I gotta think this is creative writing.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #117)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:18 PM

193. I thought this as well. When you take this with other OP's Dman has written

You have to wonder if we are all being taken for a roller coaster ride of fictional events.

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