Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:04 AM

Human101948 (3,457 posts)

Hillary's data director too lame to search Bernie's data base....

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Seriously, do all of you guys with your knickers in a twist about this really believe that Hillary's staff is too honorable to peek into Bernie's files when the door is left wide open? This is politics, and there is always a lot of skulllduggery going on beneath the surface. Details are not necessarily known by the candidate, but information discovered is often used by the campaign.

Let's not get too involved with infighting over this or Hillary's past peccadilloes.

Save the energy and emotion to prevent a President Trump or Presidente Rafael Eduardo Cruz.

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15 replies	Author	Time	Post
Hillary's data director too lame to search Bernie's data base.... (Original post)	Human101948	Dec 2015	OP
Did they?	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#1
Pure conjecture...	Human101948	Dec 2015	#4
Maybe they just didn't want to play a Cheat to Beat game?	MADem	Dec 2015	#2
So far, it sounds like Bernie's campaign was the one that cheated.	yardwork	Dec 2015	#3
Cheating is not part of the Sanders brand...	msrizzo	Dec 2015	#6
"They did it too!"	72DejaVu	Dec 2015	#5
I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in here!	Human101948	Dec 2015	#9
This OP belongs in GD-P.	yardwork	Dec 2015	#7
There's an easy to follow footprint of who accessed files from	sufrommich	Dec 2015	#8
"Save the energy and emotion to prevent a President Trump" rather than accusing Hillary's staff	pampango	Dec 2015	#10
How pathetic	leftynyc	Dec 2015	#11
Wrong forum. n/t	demmiblue	Dec 2015	#12
Wrong place for this. n/t	bvf	Dec 2015	#13
Why would she want to?	Starry Messenger	Dec 2015	#14
Locking...	BooScout	Dec 2015	#15

Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:08 AM

VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)

1. Did they?

Or is this just conjecture and speculation?

But you can bet if they did....Sanders Supporters would be apoplectic!

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:14 AM

Human101948 (3,457 posts)

4. Pure conjecture...

The Clinton data director may not have known about the glitch.

But life experience tells me that if most people see a confidential memo on the desk and no one is watching, they will take a peek.

Maybe we should have years of Congressional hearings?

I think not.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:11 AM

MADem (135,425 posts)

2. Maybe they just didn't want to play a Cheat to Beat game?

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data/?_r=0

The Democratic National Committee has told the campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont that it was suspending its access to its voter database after a software error enabled at least one of his staff members to review Hillary Clinton’s private campaign data....

The Sanders campaign said that it had fired a staff member who breached Mrs. Clinton’s data. But according to three people with direct knowledge of the breach, there were four user accounts associated with the Sanders campaign that ran searches while the security of Mrs. Clinton’s data was compromised....

... “After discussion with the D.N.C., it became clear that one of our staffers accessed some modeling data from another campaign. That behavior is unacceptable and that staffer was immediately fired.”

He added that the errors had also “made our records vulnerable.” Despite repeated requests, the Sanders campaign did not provide information about the other user accounts that were involved.

How high up were those "other user accounts that were involved?" Maybe they should have those "knickers in a twist."

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:13 AM

yardwork (56,897 posts)

3. So far, it sounds like Bernie's campaign was the one that cheated.

I notice a lot of deflection.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:16 AM

msrizzo (796 posts)

6. Cheating is not part of the Sanders brand...

Therefore, it must be denied or deflected.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:14 AM

72DejaVu (1,545 posts)

5. "They did it too!"

"Well, there's no evidence that they did, but I think they would have, so they are just as guilty as the ones who did."

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:19 AM

Human101948 (3,457 posts)

9. I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in here!

This is a pretty minor transgression in the world of politics.

"Deflection" must be the word of the day.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:16 AM

yardwork (56,897 posts)

7. This OP belongs in GD-P.

You accidentally posted this in the wrong forum. Please self-delete and start a new OP in GD/P, where I will happily continue to argue with you!

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:16 AM

sufrommich (22,871 posts)

8. There's an easy to follow footprint of who accessed files from

which campaign,which is how the DNC caught the Sanders Data director.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:20 AM

pampango (24,692 posts)

10. "Save the energy and emotion to prevent a President Trump" rather than accusing Hillary's staff

of being lazy.

Let's not get too involved with infighting over this or Hillary's past peccadilloes.

YES!

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:30 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

11. How pathetic

Is this how Bernie supporters really want to handle this story? By saying Hillary is too lame to CHEAT like Bernie? Seriously? I can't wait for the primaries to be over.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:41 AM

demmiblue (35,814 posts)