Manny Goldstein is alive and well and posting on Facebook.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

He can be found there.

That is all.

[itsrobert]

1. Good place for him

n/t

[Egnever]

6. Agreed

[AllyCat]

73. This was a good place for him too.

Unless you are someone who dislikes opinions that aren't the same as yours.

[Dustlawyer]

131. +1!!!

[Skittles]

171. THANK YOU

gawd, there so MANY of them here now

[Gman]

126. +1

[ChisolmTrailDem]

167. So was DU. nt

[leftstreet]

2. DURec

[peacebird]

3. Can someone start us a private group for exDUers on Facebook?

I would love to be able to read Manny, loonix, and all the gangs stuff again!

[haikugal]

14. That would be a good thing...

Good suggestion. I wonder if we're on the edge of another purge?!

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Nope, not on the edge, in the midst of one

[haikugal]

31. Yeah, that's how it looks...I left for years because of the purges.

Someone who know's how needs to set us up with somewhere our community can land, if needed. Sort of a DU bug out bag...

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Facebook, Twitter, it is already happening

has been for years.

[haikugal]

48. I still can't get used to Twitter. That will change.

Thanks Nadin! Again! Always good to hear from you!!

[merrily]

75. Did you notice Reply 18?

[haikugal]

78. YES!!! I'm there....it's a bloody reunion!! Woot!

[merrily]

91. Whatever are you going on about?

[haikugal]

94. .

Where is the dance emoji??

[merrily]

98. Get hold of yourself, woman!

[haikugal]

110. I'm beyond happy....

[JimDandy]

129. The owners have the expertise to set up a Progressive Underground

site. They made a financially viable safe-haven for conservatives (DI) who were being tombstoned here. I think they should also create a safe-haven site for the majority of the 89% of DUers who are Sanders supporters, who would like to work on progressive policies without having to deal with the flak from the much more conservative Clinton supporters. Progressives want to take back the Democratic Party from the corporatists and third-wayers and need a good forum site to work within, a site that the Skinner team could provide us. A win-win-win.

More like a ProgU bug-in bag

[haikugal]

133. Thanks but no thanks...I already found someplace..see post 18

[lob1]

54. I feel stupid. What happened to Manny?

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. Got toombstoned

[lob1]

59. Oh No. I knew telling the truth would get him in trouble.

[merrily]

76. See Reply 18

[lob1]

90. Thanks for pointing me to that link, merrily. Much appreciated.

[merrily]

95. What link?

[lob1]

108. You pointed me to replu #18. The link was there to Jackpine Radicals

[merrily]

114. .

[RiverLover]

61. His last OP went a step too far for the admins. He will be missed greatly by many here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=916239

But then, many of us won't be posting here after the rigged primaries anyways, so there is that.

[zeemike]

80. And I fear that both are true.

The rigged and the won'ts...

[merrily]

97. Did you see Reply 18

[zeemike]

117. Yes I did.

And just came back from there...and glad to see that familiar name of Jackpine Radical.

[merrily]

121. He is sorely missed here and there.

Every time he saw me post anything about cynical, being a cynic, getting more cynical etc., he would reply with this:



No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up.

Lily Tomlin

We used to go back and forth with each other with puns, too, but, sadly, I cannot remember any of those exhanges. God, he was smart and sensible and even tempered and such a good person.

[KamaAina]

17. Facebook? Why not Third Way Underground?

[SwankyXomb]

22. You're already there

[haikugal]

34. You got it! Beat me to it...

[merrily]

40. Bam! Pow! Splat!

[Mojorabbit]

119. +1000 nt

[Eleanors38]

183. Heh. The Beltway Bandits gotta tattoo on their butts, and now they're hepcat.

[peacebird]

23. Seriously, DI & DU are Skinners, right? Didn't there used to be another site? Old elm tree?

Or something like that?

[KamaAina]

27. Yeppers. Haven't been there in years.

Does not seem to be active.

[nxylas]

37. I think there were a few attempts to set up a progressive alternative to DU

None of them were especially successful, sadly. It takes longer to build up a community like this than it does to destroy it.

[merrily]

42. As soon as Left Underground started to get traction, the owner abandoned it and advertising bots

took it over.

I always wondered about that owner.

[leftstreet]

60. That was a sham site

I've seen this happen over and over. As primaries get closer, the inevitable alternative "progressive" or "left" forum starts...pulls in left-leaning members from DU...then busts.

So DU basically loses a bunch of strong left voices. Very sad, but very deliberate.

[merrily]

85. I thought it might have been connected to DU.

It started up around the time DU 3 was starting up. It got a lot of people who were grumbling about not wanted to switch to DU3. Had another site started then, it might have captured those people and still be going. Instead, LU captured a lot of those people, the the owner abandoned it a few months after DU3 was up and running. Coincidence? Could be. Seriously, the only excuse I could think of that would have been honorable was if he had died. I know that is extreme, but I can think of nothing else. He asked for volunteers for mods, but refused to appoint any, a whole bunch of stuff. One of the posters even offered to buy the site from him. No response.

[rhett o rick]

38. Yes but DU had spies there. nm

[starroute]

99. I remember checking out the elm tree site and one other

They mainly seemed to consist of gripes about DU which weren't very interesting. That plus a lot of recycled conspiracy theories that were no longer allowed at DU. An alternative board would need to have something positive and different to offer and not just negativity.

[BainsBane]

29. There already is one

I think it's called just "Democratic Underground."

[Raine1967]

49. Yes, that is true. it went private a few years ago.

[erronis]

35. Any chance you could do it other than on FookBase? I don't go there...

But I'd love to continue to read Manny, and all other revolutionary types - if you can call being banned from DU revolutionary.

[merrily]

93. Have you seen Reply 18

[erronis]

105. Yes, belatedly. And thanks! I'm not adept at this DU threading model

Like "How do I find post 18". I had to use my browser 'Find' function to search for '#18'. Not too hard but I think there can be better ways to do it. Perhaps in JackPine!!!

[blackspade]

45. Excellent Idea.

[redstateblues]

55. enriching the 1%er Zuckerberg

who is selling all your personal info

[merrily]

103. Much like the U.S. government and some state governments.

[Javaman]

63. there already is one. nt

[merrily]

72. See Reply 18

[emsimon33]

173. Sign up for this site then

http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php

[peacebird]

174. Thank you! Great place!!!

[TSIAS]

180. I signed up

The first member I saw was named "FuckDU". I hope it doesn't become like the HRC supporters forum where it becomes all about DU and not about the candidate.

I'll miss Manny. His sense of humor made DU better.

[malthaussen]

4. I wonder if that post will be alerted.

This place is getting depressing. Well, except for the Lounge.

-- Mal

[Kalidurga]

5. There are about 300 Manny Goldsteins there...

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. May their numbers continue grow....over there. Nothing like a good old echo chamber.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

25. And you would know

I am happy that you want to stand for the one percent

[Tarheel_Dem]

47. Your tired old sloganeering has no effect on me! Have a wonderful Christmas. I know I will.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

57. Yes I have a question?

Hillary is my 1st Choice. Joe Biden is my 2nd Choice. O'Malley is my 3rd. In that Order. Any questions?

I once lived in the south - painting with a large brush I found the Dems there are very different from those in the northwest

My question - do you understand the core difference?

[Tarheel_Dem]

70. "Painting with a large brush" is your first problem. But you're right about one thing....

We do things differently in the South, sometimes that's a good thing, and sometimes it's not. We have a very strong evangelical presence here, and I think that is less true of the northwest. Even Democrats in this region are very religious, even if they're not religiously affiliated.

Bernie will be much less acceptable here in the South, for many reasons, but the Socialist thing is not a net positive for him.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

84. Thanks for the "real" responce

This is an attack - Hillary will do well in the south

[Number23]

115. I just logged on and have no idea what's going on but I see two things of note

MannyGoldstein appears to have been tombstoned.

He is now a member of a web site that apparently has Catherina amongst its membership.

I think you know where I'm going here. In fact, it is taking an INCREDIBLY amount of restraint for me to not type what I'm thinking. Meet me in the AA forum???

[Tarheel_Dem]

120. Yup. You got the gist of it. One has to wonder...what took so long?

[Number23]

165. And now there's a shiny new web site full of banned, I mean... DU darlings on top of everything else

The Old Elm Tree lives! Again!!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

172. Well, as long as their banned asses are over there, they can't sow dissent over here.

[BlueCaliDem]

176. +1000

Two of, in my opinion, the worst are gone, thanks to Skinner. I'm beginning to love DU once again because it's becoming a place for true-blue Democrats once again.

[Tarheel_Dem]

182. You Better Believe It!!!

[Number23]

184. And so many are talking about leaving here as though it's a bad thing

DU's numbers have been in the shitter for years, blanketed by the impotent rage of the "anarchist left" or whatever these people are. Massive numbers of people have said for years they'd never recommend DU to any of their Democratic friends because of how unhinged and divorced from reality too many of the posters are here.

Perhaps if they did leave, maybe actual Democrats would return. Wouldn't that be nice?

[rhett o rick]

39. And you guys want to turn DU into the Hillary Group. Apparently can't stand anyone

that disagrees.

[Tarheel_Dem]

51. You mad?

[rhett o rick]

65. Oh hell no. I am just shaking my head at the childishness.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. I just got them in the list of people to never, ever, whatsoever aknowledge

I make exceptions for family emergencies, after that, they do not exist.

I recommend people do that. Especially to the regulars at that other site.

[azurnoir]

89. yes that's pretty much what will be left here should such a thing happen

have fun with it

[Tarheel_Dem]

96. Is this goodbye? If so, I'm crushed. The horror of it all has me quite beside myself.

[KamaAina]

16. If you have DU friends over there

troll their friends lists.

[Kalidurga]

28. I don't

I don't even have DI friends here or DU friends at DI. I tend to keep those things separated. But, Manny isn't at DU anymore so if I find him I guess I will send a request.

[merrily]

102. Did you notice Reply 18?

[starroute]

104. This seems to be him

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010795893253&ref=br_rs

[MrMickeysMom]

8. Thank you, Peggy...

May I PM you about something?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. Of course!

[BlueJazz]

9. I don't believe I ever had an incident with Manny. When people say some things that "take"..

...me back, I assume that they're just having a bad day. The frustrations of everyday life can (of course) carry on to other areas.
Sorry that he is gone.

[haikugal]

11. Well it looks like we've been friends for some time but I don't remember getting the add...

Thanks Peggy

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. You're welcome!

[Paka]

146. Thank you for the link to Jackpine Radical.

I used you as my referral. Hope that was okay. Maybe I should have checked first with you, but I was so happy to find the site.

[jwirr]

13. Thank you.

[KamaAina]

15. How did this happen?!

[marym625]

18. He's alive and well and posting on JackpineRadicals.org

that's JackpineRadicals.org

[peacebird]

24. Wow. That is a name that takes me back! i will wander over there, thank you!

[marym625]

26. Awesome

[haikugal]

41. Oh my gawd the first name I see is Catherina! Woot!!

I joined of course!

[peacebird]

62. Me too! Me too! So many old friends!

[haikugal]

81. Can I pm you with a request?

I'm so excited about this....

[catchnrelease]

79. Yep, Catherina!

Fantastic, I'm in!

[haikugal]

82. Woot!

[Divernan]

44. Promising looking site - just registered there. See ya!

[merrily]

52. I love your posts so much, Divernan.

[peacebird]

64. I'm still Peacebird over there, just registered!

[Divernan]

67. Great - a lot of the old progressive gang there!

[Paka]

147. I just registered.

And I'm still Paka.

[merrily]

50. What was that again?

[bbgrunt]

66. thanks marym. What a wonderful name for a site!

I will have to visit!

[RiverLover]

68. This is so wonderful....maybe...

On so many levels. Thanks for sharing!!

Soon to be "River"....or not. I got a message "The system you are using is not allowed to register on this site."

Firefox? Windows?

[merrily]

71. .

[RiverLover]

77. The site isn't letting me register.

[catchnrelease]

87. Do you have any adblockers?

I have both firefox and windows and got registered. I did have to disable my adblocker for that site though.

[haikugal]

92. Did you get the email? Maybe the ad blocks are my problem...registered and my name is up but no

Confirmation email..

[catchnrelease]

106. Yes I did

I got the email ok, and even made a post. But I accidentally clicked off the site and now can't get back on. Maybe too many people hitting the site at once, lol.

[haikugal]

112. Ok, well you should be alright then...you may be right!

I found a way to get a message to admin there about resenting the email.

It's hard to be patient isn't it? I'm reading, lot's to read.

[Mojorabbit]

123. No confirmation email here either. nt

[haikugal]

124. I sent the admins a message but still waiting....

[RiverLover]

127. I had to connect through my iphone to sign up. No idea why

and I don't really care.

I'm signed up, that's what matters!! Woot!!

Thanks MaryM!!! Its a fantastic site. Well done.

GO Bernie!!!

~River

[Old Codger]

135. I made it ok

All ad blockers on full force

[haikugal]

88. I can read and give thanks but haven't received my email yet...

Breath...we'll get this done....maybe someone who can will notify admin over there or give us a clue what we need to do differently. Hang in! We can still read!

[Fuddnik]

83. Just checked it out.

I like it.

[Purveyor]

100. bookmarked for future reference.

[Andy823]

101. Yes

I see that Moses has now arrived to lead you all into the promised land!

[DirtyHippyBastard]

109. Thanks for this info marym625. nt

[Kalidurga]

111. I signed up yay me

Thanks so much

[Hepburn]

113. Love this site!

[potone]

116. Thank you for the link. I didn't know that site and it sounds good.

I would like to say, though, that things are getting nasty here. I remember how emotional people got during the primary battle between Hillary and Obama and it feels worse to me now. Can't we all try to support our preferred candidate without becoming vituperative about the other Democratic candidates and, especially, one another? We're all adults here and we all want what we think is best for our country and the world. Things both here and abroad are very bad now--in fact I can't recall as bad a time as this in terms of violence and general barbarism occurring everywhere. Let's try to be a little kinder to and supportive of each other despite our disagreements. Is that too much to ask at this holiday season?

[DirtyHippyBastard]

118. After signing up at JackpineRadicals.org

this came to mind

[haikugal]

177. +1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

125. Thanks for this!

I just registered as Ocelot. Looks like a good place.

[Old Codger]

130. Just went there

I found a new place to hang out ... Thanks much

[awoke_in_2003]

136. Now I am

doubly glad I clicked on Peggy's OP

[sibelian]

138. Signed up. Sibelian the Blue...

[demmiblue]

141. Please tell me it won't be like the Clinton Cave.

Nasty talk about DUers and hidden forums.

[marym625]

142. Absolutely not

we don't care that much for one, the other the purpose is to get Bernie elected. As far as hidden forums, why would we? We're not ashamed.

[demmiblue]

143. Cool, I will check it out!

I am personally good with either Sanders or O'Malley (though I am leaning Sanders at this point in time).

[marym625]

145. If you have an issue with the verification email

Please send an email through the "contact us" at the bottom of the site. Please check your spam first though.

See you there!! Thank you

[RedCappedBandit]

148. Thanks for sharing that link. In need of a forum for liberals. nt

[marym625]

150. That's what we thought

thank you!

[lumberjack_jeff]

163. Thanks, just registered!

[yuiyoshida]

175. manny is?

[haikugal]

178. Here..

http://jackpineradicals.org/search.php?searchid=648

[yuiyoshida]

179. I can't see it, I have to join

to see it. Oh well, never mind.. I won't be joining it anyway. I have too many irons in too many fires already. Thanks.

[hay rick]

181. Thanks for the link.

My popup blocker tombstoned a message from marym625 before I could read it. I found the message later. Thanks again.

[Eleanors38]

185. Glad to see this. Thanks.

[MineralMan]

19. Couldn't find him there.

Sorry. I tried.

[merrily]

69. I imagine he'll be heartbroken.

[MineralMan]

74. OK. I actually did finally find his page, but

I'm not going to be sending a friend request. I have too many FB friends already.

Thanks for your sarcasm, though. I appreciate it.

[City Lights]

20. I found lots of Manny Goldsteins. No way for me to tell which one is the

one I'm looking for.

[leftstreet]

30. Profile pic

[RoccoR5955]

32. I thought so. n/t

[Divernan]

46. That works. Thanks!

[Autumn]

156. I told him I hate that caricature. He is so much better looking IRL.

[City Lights]

164. Thank you! nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. K&R with pleasure.

A living man can be enslaved and reduced to the historic condition of an object. But if he dies in refusing to be enslaved, he reaffirms the existence of another kind of human nature which refuses to be classified as an object. Albert Camus

[haikugal]

43. .

You bring tears to my eyes sometimes....thank you!

[pscot]

86. May the Force be with him

[Lil Missy]

107. I'll alert the media. n/t

[SoapBox]

122. Our voices CANNOT be silenced.

The Alert Swam may be strutting around, snorting, huffing and puffing...thinking they are all powerful BUT...news!

The World and Net is a very big place and voices out there cannot be silenced!

Keep going, Manny!

[philosslayer]

169. Geez, the drama

No one is silencing anyone. This is a private web site. They make the rules. Don't like the rules? Go elsewhere.

[haikugal]

186. So very true.

Especially the strutting and huffing....

[Nye Bevan]

128. Why doesn't he go to Discussionist?

I understand that all political viewpoints are welcome there.

[magical thyme]

134. he can, but he's found a progressive site to post at.

see post 18.

[sibelian]

137. Not all *posting styles* are welcome there.

There's no need for a satirist observng the Third Way on DI. Our weathered countenances would merely raise a spock-like eyebrow and we'd go back to arguing about guns and identity politics.

[awoke_in_2003]

139. Because that place

makes a shit flinging fight in the primate cages appear civil and organized.

[Liberal_in_LA]

132. I don't get all this du drama

[kwassa]

187. DU loves drama.

[awoke_in_2003]

140. Done

and thanks to this thread I also found Jackpine Great job, Peggy

On edit: my username is already in use over there. There is no way that is an accident, but why would they copy my name?

[Curmudgeoness]

151. That is creepy.

It can't be an accident with your user name. Is it possible that you signed up there in the distant past and just don't remember? I know that I have done that on a few sites.

[awoke_in_2003]

152. How long have they been around?

I clicked on the forgotten password thing, and tried both emails that I have. If they have been around since before 2010 it is possible I used my work email from a previous company I worked for.

[Curmudgeoness]

153. I just looked around and it is shiny new.

There are no posts that are not in December. So....that isn't it.

That means someone is just a creep.

[awoke_in_2003]

155. I am going to try again

Someone with admin privileges said they don't see that name. I am thinking it may be a phone glitch (work firewall won't let me go there)

[awoke_in_2003]

157. D'oh

It didn't like my use of underscores- I just did spaces instead

[haikugal]

166. Whew....

[TeeYiYi]

158. Ask the admins...

...to release your name to you on DI. I remember hearing that admin reserved ALL DU usernames on DI so that unscrupulous people couldn't spoof them. If you ask admin, I think they can release your DU username to you, to be used at DI.

TYY

[awoke_in_2003]

159. Oh, this is about Jackpine

I am registered at DI (unasleep_in_2003, I think) but after a day or two there I figured I would rather watch monkeys throw shit at each other

[TeeYiYi]

160. Interesting...

You should ask the admins at Jackpine if they know anything about your name being hijacked. Maybe they can get it back for you, or at least put a stop to it being misused.

I've never signed up with DI, but should I change my mind, I'll ask to use my DU moniker.

TYY

[awoke_in_2003]

161. It is ironed out...

it seems the forum software did not like my use of underscores. I just went with spaces and all is well.

[TeeYiYi]

162. Oh, good. ..nt

TYY

[alcibiades_mystery]

144. Go with God, Manny!

[LWolf]

149. Thank you. nt

[Cha]

154. Good! As long as he's not here advocating others not to vote for the Dem Nominee.

Skinner:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=176002

[Owl]

168. Glad to hear. Manny is a good person.

[mvd]

170. Hi Peggy!

I hope he can work something out with admin and return. It's easy to say things in a passionate Democratic primary. I personally would support Hillary even though I am disappointed with the choice we have and the DNC, but Manny's posts against the Third Way were enjoyable.