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Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:32 AM

Where did America go wrong? The most powerful country on earth at one time now have a rabid idiot

running for the highest office in the US! Imagine this idiot is now a Putin fan! No idea where this is going but I hope Americans wake up and not laugh at this joker when he ridicules women and a person with a disability. How can a normal person laugh when a candidate is ridiculing people? Will this person be fit to be President? No!

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Reply Where did America go wrong? The most powerful country on earth at one time now have a rabid idiot (Original post)
akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 OP
treestar Dec 2015 #1
akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #3
Hortensis Dec 2015 #2
akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #4
Hortensis Dec 2015 #27
Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #5
Amishman Dec 2015 #7
Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #12
Surya Gayatri Dec 2015 #10
smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #19
FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #22
pampango Dec 2015 #6
CJCRANE Dec 2015 #8
pampango Dec 2015 #15
Elmergantry Dec 2015 #16
pampango Dec 2015 #26
rosesaylavee Dec 2015 #9
etherealtruth Dec 2015 #11
billhicks76 Dec 2015 #13
snappyturtle Dec 2015 #14
Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #21
lastlib Dec 2015 #17
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18
DhhD Dec 2015 #23
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #24
FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #20
lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #25

Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:36 AM

1. It should be a joke run, like comedians do

I wonder if Trump thought he would ever get any real traction.

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Response to treestar (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:41 AM

3. He got traction, believe it or not. Have no idea

why bigots support that piece of shit. Worst person to ever got involved in politics! Shows you how some Americans feel!

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:41 AM

2. No. Where did the REPUBLICANS go wrong?

It seems obvious enough to me. Conservative leaders screwed over their constituencies for decades, lying to them, making foolish people think they were in a "partnership" with the wealthy and big business and would be taken care of, even as their pockets were systematically picked.

Now the foolish people are hurting and angry, but they're still foolish. All they can think to do is burn the big barn down. They haven't learned a thing.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:48 AM

4. Am not on the Republican side, so I have no idea what you mean.

Republicans always feel that poor people deserve what they get and if you want to be better, you need to pull yourself up with your boot straps. Unfortunately, that is frigging insane!

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:24 PM

27. Agree the first part's insane. Also mean, selfish,

dishonest, irresponsible, unChristian of all those who proclaim those beliefs, and stupid.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:55 AM

5. when his strongest and most viable GOP alternative is Ted Cruz -

really scary - who in fact personally, I find scarier than the Donald

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:34 AM

7. all of whom represent a rejection of the Republican party leadership

Conservatives are fed up with a government that clearly doesn't give a damn about them. They won't cross over to our side because the gulf between their values and ours is too wide, so they turn to the clown car in frustration.

We see some of the same anti-establishment angst on our side too, its just not the primary narrative (yet).

Overall we have a political machine that has turned a deaf ear to the people; its just come off the tracks on the right side first.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:33 AM

12. How are Senators and billionaire casino magnates not the establishment? The are quite definitively

 

The Establishment.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:16 AM

10. Much scarier...have you seen this?

 



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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:28 AM

19. So do I. Trump is a nutcase, but at least he's not a fundy religious nutcase.

Cruz is the most frightening of the bunch to me. Also, he just seems purely hateful, whereas I get the feeling that Trump is kind of doing this all to see what he can get away with rather than having any sense of deep political conviction.

Also, love your Bernie sigline!

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:04 AM

22. I agree. Cruz scares me.

He could actually win which is bad.

What's worse is that Cruz isn't just saying stupid stuff to get votes, but actually believes in his right wing religious ideology, scares the crap out of me.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:00 AM

6. Unfortunately, previously sane European countries have also recently produced RW rabid idiots.

It would seem that economic insecurity is breeding ground for RW demagogues with 'simple' answers (US vs THEM).

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:49 AM

8. DU is in a bubble nowadays. There is a lot of stuff that is ignored here that will help explain why

people support him. It is a reaction to that stuff.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:59 AM

15. What 'stuff'? Trump exploits economic insecurity with simple, US vs THEM "solutions" that won't

'solve' anything but also address conservatives' cultural insecurity' (too many minorities, gays, secular types, immigrants, etc.). Trump, et al can address to insecurities at the same time by demonizing Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, etc. and blaming them for all of our problems.

Marine Le Pen and many other RW populists do exactly the same thing. I don't know too many liberals who don't acknowledge economic insecurity - that is in large part Bernie's campaign focus - we just look for different, not as 'simple', solutions to the problem than the Trumps and Le Pens of the world like to peddle.

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Response to pampango (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:13 AM

16. Well for starters

 

The middle class continues to shrink despite 7 years of hope and change and the President telling us all is so much better. Sanders is the lefts answer to this issue, Trump is the right's. Trump is overcoming the Republican establishment, Sanders not as successful with beating the Democratic establishment, yet.

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Response to Elmergantry (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:14 AM

26. "The middle class continues to shrink". And who on the left and DU is ignoring this?

the President telling us all is so much better

What I hear from the President is that things are not as dire as they were in 2008. He knows and says that much, much more needs to be done.

Sanders is the lefts answer to this issue, Trump is the right's. Trump is overcoming the Republican establishment, Sanders not as successful with beating the Democratic establishment, yet.

Agreed. As I said: Trump exploits economic insecurity with simple, US vs THEM "solutions" that won't 'solve' anything but also address conservatives' cultural insecurity' (too many minorities, gays, secular types, immigrants, etc.). Trump, et al can address to insecurities at the same time by demonizing Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, etc. and blaming them for all of our problems.

Bernie's solutions are quite similar to FDR's. He does not exploit cultural insecurity by demonizing Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, etc. He goes after our own white 1%.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:59 AM

9. The media is making money on this guy

and they will run with him as news lead as long as that is the case. I really do not think he has the support they are saying. Our poll taking is flawed, only focuses on landlines -- we've known this for a few election cycles but still hasn't sunk in. We have no good replacement for polling people and as my elderly kinda nutty racist aunt in Naples says "I like Trump because he's not afraid of speaking his mind"

People who are filled with fear, a lot of retired elderly who think that if an item on Faux News is aired -- it must be true -- just like in the days before our media sucked. That's who supporting this guy. That and every bigot in the country. There are more sane people who are not shouting and acting stupid in public than there are nuts here --- but again, the media is making money on this circus so we are forced to watch it if we turn on any television news cast.

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Response to rosesaylavee (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:23 AM

11. You hit the nail on the head!

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:55 AM

13. The Clintons Perhaps?

 

They moved the left to the center and the center to the right. Conservatives who need to differentiate themselves to preserve their cultural identity apart from us this had to go off the deep end into crazylamd just to get away from us. It's that simple.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:58 AM

14. Cruz is not eligible to run. eom

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Response to snappyturtle (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:55 AM

21. he was born to an American mother which by accepted definition makes

him a natural born U.S. citizen. Of course, keeping that in mind - even if President Obama had been born in Kenya to an American mother he would have still been a natural born U.S. citizen according to accepted definition which completely blows away the birther position. But I would not be too surprised if we hear Trump publicly claiming that Ted Cruz is not eligible for the Presidency given that he was born in Canada. In the fact free world of his followers - he feels emboldened to say anything.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:16 AM

17. It "started" with Reagan.

Unbelievably, it has gone downhill from there.

I weep for my country if it elects this monster.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:20 AM

18. Obama followed by Clinton.

 

Looks like good is starting to pull ahead. It's not where is America going wrong, it's will America continue down its path of moving in the right direction.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:05 AM

23. Clinton followed by Clinton's No-Fly Zone is a Right move in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.merip.org/mero/mero022001


IMO, Hillary Clinton has hinted that she will take us to an escalated war in the Middle East by establishing No-Fly Zones. Now as we look at history, see the link above, No-Fly Zones have become a movement of Preemptive War. H Clinton will move us back in time to a Right directed, American Imperialism.

I received a private email from some one with the Daily Koss, asking me to sign a petition in support of No-Fly zones and my signature would indicate that I had joined the H Clinton Campaign. I just about hit the ceiling. There is not way that I am going to support a 1%er or an escalation of war in the Middle East to be paid for by draining money for the already falling Middle Class. A Clinton War, then Bush War, then an Obama little war, then a H Clinton escalated War in the ME is in no way a right direction, in my opinion. We do disagree and both of us have the right to. Have a good day.

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Response to DhhD (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:15 AM

24. You do know that four days of bombing by Clinton in Iraq was fully supported by Sanders, right?

 

How much can you make up in one post. Escalated war by initializing no-fly zones. WTH. Then something about emails. Love the direction.

Lets see the email. lol.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:28 AM

20. Look for the underlying causes.

Such as:

1) The large influx of illegal/legal immigrants to the country.
2) Well paying jobs being off-shored at an alarming rate.
3) Middle class has less money and security than previous couple of generations
4) Terrorist attacks (especially after 9/11) are more likely.
5) Backlash against the push for "Politically Correct" speech.


Those are things Trump/Cruz are addressing. There are intelligent solutions to the above and "bat shit crazy" solutions. Trump has a lock on the bat shit crazy, however, the Dems haven't really stepped up to the plate and addressed how they will deal with those topic. That leaves a vacuum.

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Response to akbacchus_BC (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:16 AM

25. AM Radio













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