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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf I were Bill Clinton my response to Trump would be
one sentence - for all my mistakes thankfully I have no ex-wives and therefore never had to pay off one for her silence re my indiscretions.
Dump that fucking chump Trump.
awake
(3,226 posts)Hillary can handle this Bill needs to stay low, he was one reason the Hillary lost last time.
hlthe2b
(102,119 posts)Absolutely he should let her deal with it.
awake
(3,226 posts)But I do not think he helped last time around.
Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)and he's best to keep his mouth shut, unless it is just to say, "Hil can handle herself, Mr Trump. Believe me, I know. "
Chemisse
(30,803 posts)Let Trump stand out as being the uncouth pile of crap that he is. Bill Clinton is - in many ways - a class act. The contrast will serve the Dems well.
hlthe2b
(102,119 posts)I don't know why anyone gives him any credence. If one takes acknowledgement of his "so-called celebrity" status away from him, he'd lose it.
If pressed on anything re: Trump, I think Hillary should just say that he is the REPUBLICANS' PROBLEM and leave it at that.
Hekate
(90,551 posts)Hillary is very good at taking the high road, and I hope she says as little as humanly possible about the swine that is Trump.
"Trump is the GOP's problem," said with a laugh, might do it.
Chemisse
(30,803 posts)madville
(7,404 posts)Half the country is divorced, using that as an attack has backfire written all over it.
I have to give it to Hillary though, with Bill's indiscretions I would have cut him loose 20 years ago, I could never forgive multiple episodes of cheating. They could have an arrangement or something though, I know several married couples that do.
Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)a marriage of convenience. Sadly, a politician simply must be married, it seems. I don't understand completely why, but they do need to be married for some reason.
The American public is so often stupid on so many issues, especially on matters that don't really matter.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It stuck me after that conversation that she did a diservice to women much the same way I realized that my mother did by staying with my dad. I realized it when my sister started showing up to family gatherings with bruises and it took forever for her to leave the guy.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Hekate
(90,551 posts)Personally I could not have stayed with a cheating spouse -- and possibly that's how the various Mrs Trumps ended up feeling.
HOWEVER, it's not my marriage, and it appears as though there is a truly enduring love and respect between Hillary and Bill Clinton. They are still together.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)People get married for all sorts of reasons and the ground rules are unique to each marriage. What some of us consider deal breakers are part of the agreement in others.
I suspect Bill's adventures were at some point part of the agreement...... even if unspoken. But out in the open after he's a political celebrity is not productive at all so something had to change.
For Trump, likely Ivana thought it was the real deal. Her pain at the time was pretty obvious. After her, I would expect the other women to understand... via legal prenup.... that she's guaranteed so much $ during and after the marriage to be there for The Donald's exclusive beck and call until such time as he changes his mind.
Whatever floats your boat...... consenting adult wise IMHO.
ooops......... sorry Hekate....... I don't know how this ended up a separate post under yours...... I thought I was editing my other post in this thread.
eeeek.
Hekate
(90,551 posts)"It is not possible to know a marriage unless you are in it."
Back when Bill was POTUS and having his "troubles," I was taking a degree course in Mythological Studies. One of my profs who was an archetypal psychologist called it a Zeus-Hera marriage. Zeus philanders, Hera is furious. But Hera is not a shrinking little wifey, she's The Queen with her own powers, just as he is The King. Their marriage falls into an archetype of rulership.
That point of view gave me a whole different way to look at the Clinton relationship. Bill's admiration for Hillary's brains and achievements is evident when he talks about her.
As far as this campaign goes, I think Bill will be her biggest asset when he decides to go on the campaign trail on her behalf. He is still hugely popular among Democrats, and he is brilliant at what he does. That speech he gave on Obama's behalf at a crucial moment clinched the deal. Hillary, from what I have seen, is every bit as prepared as Bill with facts at her fingertips. But the Big Dog is nothing less than phenomenal as a speaker.
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)It's my standard summary of both the beauty and pain that exists within the confines of most relationships.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The most backwater place in Arkansas has more class than Trump and everyone already knows it..... including Trump.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Perfect.
Hi there Madokie
hughee99
(16,113 posts)That could be something that comes back to prove embarrassing.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)How are you?
Hope all is well with you.
malaise
(268,692 posts)Happy New Year
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)tavernier
(12,368 posts). Just follow Obama's lead... be dignified and presidential, and speak intelligently about the issues that matter to the American people.
This advice goes for whichever candidate our party chooses, because trump will throw loads of shit at whomever it may be.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Hekate
(90,551 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)malaise
(268,692 posts)Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
kairos12
(12,842 posts)malaise
(268,692 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)is he accusing Bill of being a philanderer or something?
Specifics?
malaise
(268,692 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)After all, Clinton did pay Paula Jones $850,000.
It would be best if he didn't say a damned thing with his history.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Did everyone think this was going away? I'm sure some are chomping at the bit to interview Monica after all these years. Good thing John Goodman is still around. SNL might need another Monica, Linda Tripp, gig
https://screen.yahoo.com/linda-tripp-monica-lewinsky-cold-000000087.html
msrizzo
(796 posts)...and then quickly change the subject. If he doesn't play, then Trump will be forced to break his "I won't go after you unless you go after me" rule, which we all know is crap anyway. Let Trump dig his own hole. And Bill should only talk about what Hillary (and Democrats) plans to do for women and for the country; he's got that stuff down pat.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Forget contrite. May as well have fun with it. I think he should get that little twinkle in his eye he gets when he knows he's got one on someone and then smile just a little before changing the subject.
Will drive Fox News absolutely batty.
msrizzo
(796 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)after the Superbowl...