The wheels seem to be coming off the Bumbling Bundy Bandwagon

[yellowcanine]

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2016/01/oregon-standoff-latest/422622/

—Ryan Bundy, one of the leaders of the group that is now calling itself Citizens for Constitutional Freedom, told Oregon Public Broadcasting that the group would leave if the local community asked it to. “This is their county. We can’t be here and force this on them,” he said Monday. “If they don't want to retrieve their rights, and if the county people tell us to leave, we’ll leave.”

About the same time Ammon was saying something quite different.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-armed-protest/

For two days, the group made only vague statements about what would make them leave. But on Monday night, protest spokesman Ammon Bundy laid out specific demands.
The occupation would end when "the Hammonds are freed and the federal government gives up control of the Malheur National Forest," Bundy tweeted.
The tweet was later deleted.

And the resident hothead was still talking tough on Monday.
"We came very well prepared. We're in it for the long haul," protester John Reitzheimer said.

This gang apparently hasn't figured out yet that this kind of operation needs to speak with one voice if they are going to have any success at all. Right now they just look like a bunch of street thugs who took on more than they could handle and can't figure out how to get out of it without getting hurt.

I am guessing the Bundy lawyers are weighing in about now and the Bundy boys realize they are in deep doo doo but Johnny Boy Reitzheimer is still trying to get them to hold out. Ammon was trying to hang tough with Johnny but for the moment is listening to the counsel of brother Ryan and the lawyers. Tune in tomorrow to see if Ammon throws Johnny under the bus or defies brother Ryan and the lawyers.

[liberal N proud]

1. When your wagon isn't much to begin with...

[Act_of_Reparation]

2. A yokel is, a yokel does.

For all their piss and vinegar, these guys are rank amateurs. Sitting in your pickup dreaming of glorious revolution as the cattle saunter by is no substitute for strategy.

[yellowcanine]

11. Cattle, what cattle? Clive Bundy has some cattle. Not sure the rest do.

They do have hats, though. It is 10 degrees outside. Perfect for my cowboy hat!



And cell phones.
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No cattle, though, as far as I can tell. Ammon has a trucking company, that he got a federally subsidized SBA loan of $500,000 + for. Those evil Feds keep ruining my life!

[tularetom]

28. Here ya go

[dixiegrrrrl]

22. So they are Yeehaw-dists trying to create a......cattlephate?

[tblue37]

25. Cowliphate. nt

[yellowcanine]

32. Useless without a picture.

Cowliphate

[jberryhill]

33. A Moooo-slim Cowliphate

[L. Coyote]

3. Maybe focus on the guys standing behind the #BundyBunch

Don't assume someone is really in control because they are a mouthpiece. Operatives do what they are told, someone else pulls the strings and is never seen. Where are their orders coming from?

[madokie]

6. You got it

and it's spot on.

[yellowcanine]

7. That pic captures the "dead eyes" of a psychopath. Here is another one.

[TeeYiYi]

24. That guy is certifiable...

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/3/10703712/oregon-militia-standoff

TYY

[underpants]

27. I don't think so. The guy in the first pic is easily 20 years older

My two cents

[yellowcanine]

31. Two different psychopaths.

[tazkcmo]

9. Got that hat

Got it from an Army Surplus store. Not because of the patch but because it kept my ears warm. A real sniper wouldn't advertise. It's about stealth, not garish neon.

[Whiskeytide]

21. I'm almost afraid to ask, but ...

... what exactly is a "major league sniper"? Is that an actual military designation?

[tabasco]

23. Yes, it's military designation for a civilian asshole who couldn't hit the side of a barn

at 50 yards.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

34. "Major League Sniper" says the patch on the hat

If that doesn't qualify as a threatening posture, I'm not sure what does. It's as provocative as open carry. "Be afraid of me, I've got a gun," it says.

I'd bet on a real sniper against a "major league sniper" any time.

[madokie]

4. I fear for the 'resident hotheads'

family back home. I'm sure he's a blast to live with

[randome]

5. With Jon Ritzheimer in the mix, only embarrassment and failure will be the result.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[Quixote1818]

8. They have two weeks worth of food evidently

You have to wonder how they thought this would be a good idea. I give them less than a week to give up but they might try to create a gun battle to bring in the other militias.

[elias49]

14. A gun battle would be extremely stupid.

Are they THAT dumb?

[Katashi_itto]

26. Lol...two weeks? Did you look at that stuff? I do alot of outdoor stuff. Subzero weather,

no power, they will be cutting wood for fire, IF they brought an axe....

Course the outside stuff I do, doesn't involve bringing about the downfall of the govt.

No that stuff wont last them very long at all lay you odds they aren't even rationing it.

[jberryhill]

10. They expected a mass uprising

These idiots think they have widespread popular support, and in all likelihood believed that Ammon Bundy's call to "stand up" would be met with enthusiastic throngs of like-minded idiots.

They did not expect that they would largely be considered buffoons.

[yellowcanine]

12. They are likely pissed that Josh Earnest called it a "local law enforcement matter."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264673-white-house-calls-oregon-standoff-a-local-law-enforcement

That had to hurt. Brilliant strategy by the White House. Particularly since the Bundy Gang keeps saying they answer only to local law enforcement. Except or course when they don't, as in this case.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. +1

Yup. There is a group of sovereigntist in my area. From the eighties to the nineties they infiltrated the court and local government. Created serious legal headaches when their decisions resulted in a series of lawsuits, because sovereigntist are not known for their respect for constitutional documents. They did a great job of tapping into the anti-government sentiment among Republicans, and the greedy among the Democrats. But most of these people will stop short of what the Bundys did. That isn't to say that the true sovereigntist were not drooling, hoping that the ember would have sparked into something more.

[Hugin]

18. That's what happens when people buy "likes" on Farcebook.

As, they did in the original standoff. In the neighborhood of a 120,000 of them.

Idiots.

[L. Coyote]

19. These right-wing-fringe, freebooter loons have a very weak connection with mainstream reality.

They are a lot like the Fundamentalist Church in 1492, thinking the Pope was the center of the Universe and could partition the whole world for the Catholic princes. In fact, this is a direct result of the 1492 religious fundamentalist problem. What started by releasing pig herders upon America to steal gold for Pope and King is the context of this drama. Most of the Indians are dead now, but the cowboys are still itching to fight and steal the stolen land for themselves, fuck pope, king, or country.

These guys are still living a William Walker reality, thinking let's put together an armed gang and take over a country. Unlike William Walker, they didn't have the good sense to pick a tiny country, and like William Walker they have an over-inflated sense of their chance of success. William Walker found out the hard way when he faced a firing squad of bare-footed Nicaraguan citizens. Overthrowing nations is a dangerous occupation.

I hope they are shutting down the cell towers with the power. Don't allow these invaders access to our infrastructure.

[underpants]

29. I expected cameras to roll and, well, this would happen

All you have to do is wait. They'll screw themselves, usually in about a week.

[NV Whino]

13. Too many chief and no Indians

Never ends well.

[hobbit709]

15. This sums it up.

[Baitball Blogger]

16. They wanted to start their own political revolution --

and just realized that angry white men all over this country only act in unison when they think there's something innit for them.

[OregonBlue]

20. Quick, while they're here in Oregon go seize their property for back taxes and grazing fees.

[lunatica]

30. Obviously they're sobering up

They forgot to pack the beer.