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In July, Emeryville, California, passed the highest city-wide minimum wage in the country. Heres how workers lives changedand didnt.By Gabriel Thompson
The group, which included striking fast-food workers from across the East Bay, gathered afterward in the parking lot to celebrate. They would hit half a dozen restaurants before the day was over, part of a nationwide movement that has grown to attract low-wage workers across multiple industries. Among the strikers was Shardeja Woolridge, who works part-time at a McDonalds in the nearby city of Hayward, where she lives with her mother in a two-bedroom apartment. Woolridge earns $9 an hour, Californias minimum wage; her mom receives disability benefits. Its not nearly enough. Theyve received eviction notices and had their electricity shut off. The 19-year-old recently enrolled at Berkeley City College but struggled to pay for textbooks. I can hardly buy my own soap or deodorant, she says. Behind her, workers hoist a red-and-black banner that reads #fightfor15.
I ask Woolridge what might be different if she made $15 an hour. Whoa, she says. Fifteen. Her eyes turn to the cloudless sky. Whoa, she repeats, her voice trailing off. She could help pay the rent. She could stock the fridge with food. She could afford Wi-Fi. Above all, she could finally stop fighting so much with her mom. We are constantly butting heads, Woolridge says. She doesnt understand that I dont have money. Im like, This is really all I make, but she cant get it.
The movement for a $15 minimum wage began three years earlier, on a chilly fall morning in 2012, when 200 fast-food workers walked off the job in New York City. Their demand was audacious: $15 an hour was more than twice what many of them earned. But more strikes and protests followed, with the movement spreading quickly, driven by workers like Woolridge. What had started as a targeted campaign under the slogan Fast Food Forward grew to include low-wage workers across numerous industries.
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tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Haven't they heard? 12 is enough.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)You should be in government! (Just not mine!) lol But isn't that the way the DLC does it? Terrible.
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I'm not sure why someone who makes a million dollars for four one hour speeches would think like that, maybe someone should forward this article to Hillary
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Her donors tell her it will put them out of business.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Also, if you can stay in business only by keeping other humans hungry, maybe you should not stay in business.
wolfie001
(2,227 posts)Fucking Walmart!!!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)geretogo
(1,281 posts)for putting lettuce on a hamburger .
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)Now I think the $1.25 comes to over $21.00 in 2015 dollars. $15 is still too cheap.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)You can't get your head above water on $15, no matter where you live in this country. We really should be fighting for $22! They can afford it.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)w0nderer
(1,937 posts)seeing a 'living wage' (healthcare, housing, power, dental, pension, vision, water, garbage, transportation, childcare, small saving for emergencies)
at that point the minim was 17/hour
i'm sure it's not gone DOWN over the last 4-5 years
rather the opposite
merrily
(45,251 posts)Maybe, you can live on $15 an hour in Boston proper if you are willing to live in your car and can find parking at a reasonable cost. If that is an exaggeration, it is not by much.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Clothe themselves, house themselves, and be healthy and educated. Less than fifteen is a STARVATION WAGE. Do you understand what that means!?
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)for 3 years with no raise even when i got 'bumped' to manager+trainer
yeah i know what it means, it means i work 4-6 hours elsewhere to make rent
merrily
(45,251 posts)They also get sick a lot more.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)but you do have the right bust your hump and get after it though.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Facility Inspector
(615 posts)or other codex of laws is there an enumerated right to not starve?
The same hand you use to get a handout is also capable of working to get the things you want or expect out of life.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Facility Inspector
(615 posts)It would be nice if the right to not starve was a fundamental human right, enforceable by law, but it isn't.
So, since I can't fart unicorn rainbows, I have to live in the real world. In that world, (for me), if you don't work, you can't eat.
YMMV.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Basic rights of food, shelter, health, education, and safety.
If you choose to disagree that's on you my friend. And shame on you.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)run with that and see what hand fills up quicker.
The things you'd have to do to get what you want aren't things most people are built for.
You'd have to do a lot of killing to change our current system. Or at least a lot of dying would need to happen to cleanse the body politic and purge it of corporate toxicity.
No regime change has ever happened without blood (for the most part).
And we need basic change at the cellular level to move toward a more humane path. But love isn't going to get it.
The people in power, the ones who own us, will hold onto that power until the last of them are hung by their neckties from cellphone towers.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)For instance... In Boston the AVERAGE one bedroom apt is north of $1500 a month, in an area with good schools it's north of $2000. If you make $10 an hour you spend literally FOUR WEEKS each month working forty hours BEFORE tax to pay it. You then have a second job working another twenty to forty hours to pay for basic food. If you get sick and lose your job, tough shit. Unemployment isn't enough to pay rent. You can't afford a car... Insurance, gas, and parking all cost money in the city. In upwards of $400 a month combined. If you have kids, your spouse if you're lucky enough to stay together, works too. Your kids have no supervision for several hours after school before you get home.
I make 50k myself, take home about 35k after taxes, pay 1100 in rent each month, do not have a family and have a one bedroom apt. I work 50hrs a week with benefits. I break even each month.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)There's a bit more to it than that, btw.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)They really stressed centering the tomato slice.
There's a lot more skill than people thing. Some people put the tomato slice off to the side.
I made 2.15 an hour. They made a big deal of the minimum wage being 2.10 and I made 2.15.
On edit I just remembered a funny story about the job interview for that first job. I was 16 and was a very good student. I brought in my latest report card and dressed in a jacket and tie. The franchise owner gave me a mop and asked me to show him how I mopped. I had no idea how to mop so he took it away from me and showed me that you mop in figure eights. We never talked about my high class standing. He needed someone who knew how to mop. I was hired though.
Think Food Safety. How much is that worth? Raw chicken, beef, fish, eggs. What temp is each held at raw, cooked? How about storage of raw product? How often is it safe to re-heat left over food? Not just when do you wash your hands but how and for how long? What about equipment and keeping it sanitary, not just clean? How much do you need to be paid to even care? Where your tomato is placed is the least of consumer's worries (or should be). I'm more concerned that the employee wash their hands, used a sanitized knife and cutting board (If they used a slicer they have to be 18 to use it and was it used for raw meat slicing prior? Was it cleaned AND sanitized?), washed the tomato before slicing it and didn't cut themselves while doing it. That's just the tomato. Now let's talk about breading that raw chicken breast...
Yupster
(14,308 posts)Now this was in 1975 so it may be different today.
We got frozen pre cut patties and put them on the broiler. They'd come out the other end and fall into a plate for us to make burgers out of. We didn't even cut the vegetables, They were pre cut for our stations.
Honestly, it was as unskilled work as work could be.
We did need to wash our hands so that you could call a skill I guess, but other than that, the hardest part was remembering not to put pickles on that one.
No gloves back then either.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Is more difficult and by that i mean stressful than many folks occupations that make FAR more money. They sure do like to shit on those folks though. They opine of yesteryear when the flipped burgers to get some milk dud money and a ticket for the matinee with their sweetie. Times have changed, get over yourselves.
Be well, don't let the shitters get you down.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Congrats on having a job and doing it.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Hey, I wish this was the kind of economy that accommodated everyone. Thanks to decades of CEO glad-handing Republican economic policy performed by both parties (predominantly the Republican party, though), it's not. Inflation adjusted wages are getting lower and lower with each passing decade.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)Which is a good thing. Emeryville itself is an expensive place to live (a buddy has a modest studio at $2000 a month). However, some of the poorer sections of Berkeley and Oakland border Emeryville, so the city's decision to increase the minimum wage has regional implications. Especially when you look at the gentrification problems in nearby areas (Fourth Street, I'm lookin at you).
An acquaintance works at an eatery in Bay Street. He was planning to move on from the job, but once the wage kicked in, he decided to stay put. It has improved the economic life of many people very dramatically.
I can't say I've noticed any jarring price increases in the area. I'm usually in Bay Street once a week or so for dinner or a movie. Everything seems the same as it always did.
Except maybe happier workers.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I wish...I haven't had enough to eat out or do any kind of entertainment for 18 years. Most people today don't. I'm glad you are doing as well as you are. No snark intended...I'm seriously happy for you.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Double income, no kids. It lends itself to disposable income. But, when I was re-establishing a career and my partner was still in school a few years ago, there were some clawing times.
I hope your situation improves!
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I think most of us go through financial struggles when young, but nothing like now that I'm retired and I have no more prospects. Except for six years, I've been single all my life, and trying to live on single income does kinda suck, yet married people get the tax breaks. I hope you are able to retire in better shape than I. Please really concentrate on your retirement funds. I was unable to save mine when I went on disability or I would not be in the shape I am now. So...take good care of your health too!
Prism
(5,815 posts)My parents are retired, and my elderly (almost 80) mom still insists on doing crossing guard duty to make ends meet. Nevermind they both get SS and my dad's union pension and my brother and I supplement where we can. They've lived a life of paycheck to paycheck and retired into debt. Month to month, I keep my parents above water. I grew up working class / poor. My parents worked their asses off and gained nothing. They deserve to not worry about their home. So me and my brother made a pact. No matter what, til the day they die, they get to live in that house. (30 year mortgage that was refinanced like 5 years ago).
All my paycheck goes to savings and retirement. I Lyft/Uber for "play" income. That's my disposable. I want a PS4? I best drive for a weekend. I learned my lesson. No pleasures before requirements. I wanted a Macbook Pro? I drove for a month.
Can I make anything easier for you? PM me. I'll do my best.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I've lived long enough already. I'm ready to go and it doesn't bother me.
You are a good son...you and your brother. I wish I could have had children to be here for me now. You just need to be there for your parents and for your family.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)We have come to expect too little from our corporate masters.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)revolutionaries to sheeple so suddenly? Was an illusion of self-determined government all it took?
Then again, IMO, the fat cats wanted the revolution. They saw that seemed like unlimited land and natural resources and knew it was time to stop sending money to the king. I think they could have cared less whether they had one vote in Parliament or zero votes. "Follow the money."
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)the high-water mark for the minimum wage (equivalents in 2012 dollars) :
http://www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/chart1
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Give everyone $50 an hour. Would that be a problem? I despise economically ignorant people who push for this because they feel it's the right thing to do.
Your pathetically weak feelings do not trump my desire for a $5.00 meal and no, I don't care about the children.
Get a skill or a degree, minimum wage jobs are entry level, that's it.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It is not at the expense of labor. I don't know how you do it but I exchange value for value and if I were a business owner, I would pay the most productive people the best wages. It seems that here, people would pay the best wages to the neediest people and the best workers would have to carry the others weight.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Putting more money into the pockets of lower wage workers creates more demand for services and products.
If there is a business benefit, that would happen. I assume most businesses want to make money.
If there are 1000 applicants willing to work for minimum wage, then I would be foolish to pay more unless I was looking for a specific skill.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)and who would stick around long enough for your business to recoup the recruitment and training costs... even in entry level jobs.
Foolish owners try to cheap out and then wonder why they're churning through so many workers.
All valid points.
Take waiting, it's obvious who hustles and who doesn't and this is shown in tips. Waitstaff who hustle tend to dislike pooled tips. Hustling brings in more business so a smart owner or manager rewards the people who work harder. What happens when that type of feedback is eliminated?
Foolish owners cheap out all over and not just in labor.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, really what you are expecting is that someone who works a 40 hour week not have enough money to pay basic expenses like food and shelter. I don't expect every worker to live in luxury and some people will run into some very expensive problems like a chronic illness that can't always be covered by a living wage for that we need a safety net. But, most basic needs should be covered by wages otherwise they are covered by taxes and that is a subsidy to corporations for their labor costs.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Sorry, the minimum wage now is like making $3 an hour. Costs have gone up and the workforce is no longer teen-age and entry-level. Time to grapple with actual reality, not your fantasy world. Your pathetically weak feelings don't trump real life.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Who is going to do entry level? Yep. A lot more then with degrees now. I am cool with free education but let's not think we are suddenly going to have paradise for all.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I live in real life. What are their degrees in? If it is a worthless degree, than I am not sympathetic and I do blame colleges for churning out graduates knowing they haven't equipped them for the real world.
Why not $50 an hour?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Don't like it? Stay where you live.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 8, 2016, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)
I guess right wing strawmen are easier to build than progressive legislation.
That, and you can't really "SUPERSIZE YER SKILL SET, HAW HAW" when you cannot afford to do so.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)long as I can get a cheap meal. And your advice for the 16,000,000 American children living in poverty is to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
tenderfoot
(8,426 posts)Facility Inspector
(615 posts)and not cop an attitude when you ask them to read back the order (at drive-thru) or (SHUDDER) actually LISTEN in the first place.
ProfessorGAC
(65,000 posts)A very self-centered world view.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)you spend money at?
In what universe?
Fast food is not rocket science. The bare minimum expectation is that they get the order right and place the correct items in the bags.
How is it self-centered to expect to get what you pay for?
Do you just emote the creamy milk of Gandhian karmic spirituality when a company fucks your shit up?
GoddessOfGuinness
(46,435 posts)decent meals and having less worry about bills occupying employees' minds would improve job performance.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)there are many government programs that will help people in poverty engage the system for education and job training. Enhancing your KSEs will get you a better paying job.
You might not get your own reality show, but welders, truck drivers can make a decent living.
Much better than fast food work has EVER paid.
tenderfoot
(8,426 posts)over fist.
What a world.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . it's far more important that someone's life must suck worse than theirs than for all of us to do better.
Oh, and they're going to be "That Wealthy Person Who Owns Everything" someday. "You just WAIT!!"