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Landmark research proves that the US-led war on terror has killed as many as 2 million people, but this is a fraction of Western responsibility for deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last two decades.Last month, the Washington DC-based Physicians for Social Responsibility (PRS) released a landmark study concluding that the death toll from 10 years of the War on Terror since the 9/11 attacks is at least 1.3 million, and could be as high as 2 million.
The 97-page report by the Nobel Peace Prize-winning doctors group is the first to tally up the total number of civilian casualties from US-led counter-terrorism interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The PSR report is authored by an interdisciplinary team of leading public health experts, including Dr. Robert Gould, director of health professional outreach and education at the University of California San Francisco Medical Center, and Professor Tim Takaro of the Faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University.
Yet it has been almost completely blacked out by the English-language media, despite being the first effort by a world-leading public health organisation to produce a scientifically robust calculation of the number of people killed by the US-UK-led war on terror.
See more at:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394#sthash.FGpO3uRJ.dpuf
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How can we continue our failed foreign policies?
Democrats... if this doesn't turn your stomach, I have no respect for you.
We are war mongers and this should be on everyone's list to stop.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)malaise
(268,856 posts)They're the terrorists - the inversion of reality is complete.
I cry for all of us.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Well said.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Should have ignored 9/11 and let Al Qaeda run free in Afghanistan?
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Second. What about Saudi Arabia? Hopefully you know why I ask.
However, I think that, call me a hippy, but doctors, teachers and engineers would have done a better job in Afghanistan. We'd help them and create fewer terrorists.
We kill them, they hate us and vow revenge. We create the terrorists. It's a solution that perpetuates the problem.
I'm not anti-military. Just the opposite. I think, as the greatest force on earth, we should be peacekeepers and I sure as hell believe that if we fight a war (especially if we profit from it), we should take care of our veterans.
War profits should be illegal, or taxed heavily at least.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)So should the US have ignored Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Yes or no?
tecelote
(5,122 posts)My answer is No. We should not have ignored Al Qaeda or the people of Afghanistan.
When I was a kid I met a lot of people from the Middle East. They were all good people.
America should have helped Afghanistan improve their economy, health and standard of living.
The few that were terrorists would have been driven out by the good people of Afghanistan.
Instead we killed mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters and they hate us for it.
Our solution perpetuates the problem.
But, hey, it's profitable and war profiteers are no longer reviled. I guess the more terrorists we create, the more money people like Dick Cheney make.
Don't you agree?
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)More specifically the Taliban, enabled 9/11. So yeah, I fully support the US intervention in Afghanistan. Do you really believe that the terrorists would have been driven out of Afghanistan, or think that President Obama was wrong to order the killing of Osama bin Laden? You seem to think that we are living in a world where everything is unicorns and rainbows. There are still terrorists in Afghanistan today. Christ, they are shooting girls in the head or throwing acid in those girls' face for the simple crime of going to school. Are you going to defend that?
tecelote
(5,122 posts)You really think that it's ok to punish an entire nation for the crimes of a minority?
I love it when people dismiss ethical and moral views as unicorns and rainbows. It's their way of feeling superior. Of course, they are base and vile but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Rex
(65,616 posts)Nice of you to even reply to such republican drivel, I try to avoid it.
Two wrongs alway make a right. 19 guys are from, Saudi Arabia and we bomb Afghanistan and Iraq back to the stone age.
Very effective at making Muslim people not want to kill us.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Wait, the 3,000 of ours were killed by Saudis, and we never went after them...
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)The 3000 dead?
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Response to tecelote (Original post)
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MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)I can't imagine the number of wounded and displaced.
I would like to imagine a new approach that does not destroy a country for the actions of a minority of citizens. An approach that works with, not kill, people.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Just finish off Palestine and dance on their graves before adding more settlements, Great God Almighty, would be well pleased.
So glad the White Manly God is not vengeful. What? " "Vengence is mine sayth the Lord? Hmmmm?
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)We have no right to turn away these refugees when their misery is entirely the fault of WESTERN IMPERIALISM.
Deserves repeating:
"We have no right to turn away these refugees when their misery is entirely the fault of WESTERN IMPERIALISM."
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)like nothing ever happened before then....
And why do only the "western" actions during that time count??