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tecelote

(5,122 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:57 PM Jan 2016

Unworthy victims: Western wars have killed four million Muslims since 1990

Landmark research proves that the US-led ‘war on terror’ has killed as many as 2 million people, but this is a fraction of Western responsibility for deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last two decades.



Last month, the Washington DC-based Physicians for Social Responsibility (PRS) released a landmark study concluding that the death toll from 10 years of the “War on Terror” since the 9/11 attacks is at least 1.3 million, and could be as high as 2 million.

The 97-page report by the Nobel Peace Prize-winning doctors’ group is the first to tally up the total number of civilian casualties from US-led counter-terrorism interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The PSR report is authored by an interdisciplinary team of leading public health experts, including Dr. Robert Gould, director of health professional outreach and education at the University of California San Francisco Medical Center, and Professor Tim Takaro of the Faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University.

Yet it has been almost completely blacked out by the English-language media, despite being the first effort by a world-leading public health organisation to produce a scientifically robust calculation of the number of people killed by the US-UK-led “war on terror”.

See more at:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394#sthash.FGpO3uRJ.dpuf

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How can we continue our failed foreign policies?

Democrats... if this doesn't turn your stomach, I have no respect for you.

We are war mongers and this should be on everyone's list to stop.

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Unworthy victims: Western wars have killed four million Muslims since 1990 (Original Post) tecelote Jan 2016 OP
They hate us for our... Wilms Jan 2016 #1
But but but malaise Jan 2016 #2
I cry for all of us. tecelote Jan 2016 #3
So the US TeddyR Jan 2016 #4
First. Wow. This is DU - right? tecelote Jan 2016 #5
You didn't answer my post TeddyR Jan 2016 #6
"So should the US have ignored Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Yes or no?" tecelote Jan 2016 #8
Afghanistan TeddyR Jan 2016 #10
President Obama was absolutely right to take out bin Laden. tecelote Jan 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Jan 2016 #19
What do you expect from people that demonstrate a total ignorance of contemporary history. Rex Jan 2016 #20
Of course libodem Jan 2016 #17
They killed 3,000, we kill 2 million, that'll teach them not to mess with us! AZ Progressive Jan 2016 #7
So we should ignore TeddyR Jan 2016 #11
I think Teddy missed the point. tecelote Jan 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Demonaut Jan 2016 #9
I suspect the actual number is much higher. :( MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #12
Sadly so. tecelote Jan 2016 #15
Now if they could libodem Jan 2016 #16
And we then whine and complain when the blowback leads to waves of refugees pouring into Europe. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #18
+1! tecelote Jan 2016 #21
I love the arbitrary 1990 cutoff date Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #22

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
5. First. Wow. This is DU - right?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

Second. What about Saudi Arabia? Hopefully you know why I ask.

However, I think that, call me a hippy, but doctors, teachers and engineers would have done a better job in Afghanistan. We'd help them and create fewer terrorists.

We kill them, they hate us and vow revenge. We create the terrorists. It's a solution that perpetuates the problem.

I'm not anti-military. Just the opposite. I think, as the greatest force on earth, we should be peacekeepers and I sure as hell believe that if we fight a war (especially if we profit from it), we should take care of our veterans.

War profits should be illegal, or taxed heavily at least.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
8. "So should the US have ignored Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Yes or no?"
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

My answer is No. We should not have ignored Al Qaeda or the people of Afghanistan.

When I was a kid I met a lot of people from the Middle East. They were all good people.

America should have helped Afghanistan improve their economy, health and standard of living.

The few that were terrorists would have been driven out by the good people of Afghanistan.

Instead we killed mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters and they hate us for it.

Our solution perpetuates the problem.

But, hey, it's profitable and war profiteers are no longer reviled. I guess the more terrorists we create, the more money people like Dick Cheney make.

Don't you agree?

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
10. Afghanistan
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

More specifically the Taliban, enabled 9/11. So yeah, I fully support the US intervention in Afghanistan. Do you really believe that the terrorists would have been driven out of Afghanistan, or think that President Obama was wrong to order the killing of Osama bin Laden? You seem to think that we are living in a world where everything is unicorns and rainbows. There are still terrorists in Afghanistan today. Christ, they are shooting girls in the head or throwing acid in those girls' face for the simple crime of going to school. Are you going to defend that?

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
13. President Obama was absolutely right to take out bin Laden.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

You really think that it's ok to punish an entire nation for the crimes of a minority?

I love it when people dismiss ethical and moral views as unicorns and rainbows. It's their way of feeling superior. Of course, they are base and vile but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Response to TeddyR (Reply #6)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. What do you expect from people that demonstrate a total ignorance of contemporary history.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jan 2016

Nice of you to even reply to such republican drivel, I try to avoid it.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
17. Of course
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jan 2016

Two wrongs alway make a right. 19 guys are from, Saudi Arabia and we bomb Afghanistan and Iraq back to the stone age.

Very effective at making Muslim people not want to kill us.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
7. They killed 3,000, we kill 2 million, that'll teach them not to mess with us!
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

Wait, the 3,000 of ours were killed by Saudis, and we never went after them...

Response to tecelote (Original post)

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
15. Sadly so.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

I can't imagine the number of wounded and displaced.

I would like to imagine a new approach that does not destroy a country for the actions of a minority of citizens. An approach that works with, not kill, people.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
16. Now if they could
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

Just finish off Palestine and dance on their graves before adding more settlements, Great God Almighty, would be well pleased.

So glad the White Manly God is not vengeful. What? " "Vengence is mine sayth the Lord? Hmmmm?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
18. And we then whine and complain when the blowback leads to waves of refugees pouring into Europe.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jan 2016

We have no right to turn away these refugees when their misery is entirely the fault of WESTERN IMPERIALISM.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
21. +1!
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jan 2016

Deserves repeating:
"We have no right to turn away these refugees when their misery is entirely the fault of WESTERN IMPERIALISM."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. I love the arbitrary 1990 cutoff date
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

like nothing ever happened before then....

And why do only the "western" actions during that time count??

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