Why doesn't the fed seize the assets and property of the birdhouse terrorists?

[Orrex]

Now that a judge has ruled that they can be fined for their daily occupation of the wildlife reserve, why doesn't the fed simply seize their assets as payment?

I missed a $100 tax payment in 2006 and was told that $600 worth of my wages could be seized. Why can't some proportionate seizure take place to compensate for the unlawful use of and damage to federal property?

[niyad]

1. apparently, being armed white nutbars renders one immune from any sort of consequences.

[Orrex]

2. I should totally try that.

[Bettie]

3. You probably are not crazy enough

to meet the minimum threshold for being absolved of all misdeeds and crimes.

You are certainly not right wing enough.

[Orrex]

7. Dammit. Always a bridesmaid, never a crazy racist gun nut.

[Bettie]

10. I guess it's just your

cross to bear.

You could get a bunch of gunz...but then you'd have to build a bunker and get a tarp...just too much work for the middle of winter.

[Hugin]

12. By two weeks The Reaganauts had Ted Topple doing a half hour smear job on Pres. Carter.

Every night, when the Iranians took hostages.

I don't feel that my rights as a part owner of a Bird Sanctuary in Oregon are being observed.

[fleur-de-lisa]

4. Ahem . . .

"armed WHITE nutbars" . . .

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. Yep. The most important fact of all.

[niyad]

14. yes, sorry, meant to add that, and forgot.

[Hugin]

5. Yeah, why not?

And very publicly, too. (After due process, of course.)

Something? Anything? Helloooo? Is there anybody in the wheelhouse?

[Bettie]

6. We're supposed to be

nice to them and hope that they'll eventually leave.

Then, no charges so they know they're good boys who did a "good thing" and can do whatever they want to in the future, knowing that they, as right wing, white men with guns are allowed to do whatever they please, with zero consequences.

[MohRokTah]

8. Because the federal government bows to the whims of heavily armed white rightwing terrorists. eom

[Cerridwen]

9. Personally, I think they should revoke their US citizenship.

Personally, I think they should revoke their US citizenship. They fancy themselves "sovereign citizens" and answerable to no one but...(?) that's not really clear. They are anti-government, except when they take a government agency to court or need help during a disaster and cheap grazing rights, social security, Medicare/Medicaid, and so on.

Since their citizenship comes through the legislation and constitution in place from the same government they want to overthrow, I think they should have their citizenship and any subsequent rights granted through same, revoked.

However, it will be interesting to see what the various government agencies are doing behind the scene.

[KansDem]

11. Don't they have to be smoking doobies before forfeiture and seizure kicks in?

[Shrike47]

15. Judge hasn't ruled they can be fined. He has no jurisdiction over them at all at this point.

He was just expressing his intentions should they ever be convicted of something, which apparently wom't ever happen because they are never arrested or charged. Basically, he was blowing off steam.

[Orrex]

18. It would seem that no one has jurisdiction

Regardless of the judge's standing to rule here, the basic question remains: why has the fed done nothing?

Waco is a poor example, because Koresh wasn't occupying or damaging federal property.

Ruby Ridge is likewise a poor example for the same reason.


Will these birdhouse terrorists suffer the same ghastly fate as Clivon Bundy? To wit, will they be forced to live out the rest of their lives as Rightwing heroes facing no impact, consequences or repercussions for their federal crimes?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. It's called Due Process.

[Hugin]

21. The Bundys already have several federal judgments against them.

For prior offenses. They owe millions in fines they refuse to pay. I was always under the impression that in itself was a crime.

[restorefreedom]

17. an excellent question

and i will add

why are they letting these yahoos keep control of federal land? this is insane

[Megahurtz]

19. And why are they letting them

come and go as they please? They are ruining a public Wildlife Sanctuary and no one is doing a thing about it.

[restorefreedom]

22. and it is setting a very bad precedent too.

once the kid gets away with his tantrum with no consequences, he will have more tantrums

[KamaAina]

20. 'Cause they're white?

Or maybe they don't have anything worth seizing , although I read that one of them has a million-dollar home in Idaho.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. I Thought Ammon Had His Own Business Enterprise

Sieze it, sell it to someone else who wants to run a truck repair joint, and keep the difference as restitution in lieu of fines and further judgment.

He loses his business and total personal value of a half million. Might make him reconsider acting a fool

[JEB]

24. Since our government is incapable of handling this bunch

of thugs, perhaps we could appeal to our long time ally and have Mossad handle it. My guess the standoff would be over in a matter of minutes.