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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:45 PM Jan 2016

Biden Says Obama Offered to Help Pay for Son's Cancer Treatment

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/joe-biden-obama-beau-financial-help

In an emotional interview with CNN's Gloria Borger, Vice President Joe Biden on Monday revealed that President Barack Obama once offered to help him financially amid mounting concerns over his late son Beau's health.

The offer, Biden says, was made during one of their weekly lunch meetings, in which he told the president he and his wife were contemplating selling their house to help Beau's family in case he was forced to resign as Delaware's attorney general.


"He got up and he said, 'Don't sell that house. Promise me you won't sell the house,'" Biden told Borger, who had asked Biden to reveal a moment he would remember ahead of Obama's final State of the Union on Tuesday. "He said, 'I'll give you the money. Whatever you need, I'll give you the money. Don't, Joe—promise me. Promise me.' I said, 'I don't think we're going to have to anyway.' He said, 'Promise me.'"




I will miss both of them when they leave office. 2 great friends that actually care for one another and this country.
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Biden Says Obama Offered to Help Pay for Son's Cancer Treatment (Original Post) RockaFowler Jan 2016 OP
. Wilms Jan 2016 #1
Back when Obama still had all black hair. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #6
Yep. That's the 2008 campaign trail. Wilms Jan 2016 #8
Even the VP of the US Gman Jan 2016 #2
I wonder if contemplating the move was more of an woodsprite Jan 2016 #3
I have to wonder, though... Tab Jan 2016 #9
I doubt there are any insurance plans that cover mythology Jan 2016 #13
As long as the VP isn't whoring thief Cheney. What am I saying? Everyone knows he was valerief Jan 2016 #19
Biden was a workhorse in Congress who didn't use his position to get rich quick. Warpy Jan 2016 #26
Now That's Taking Obamacare To The nth Degree......nt global1 Jan 2016 #4
wish people did not wendylaroux Jan 2016 #5
It doesn't appear to be about the health care costs frazzled Jan 2016 #7
Perhaps that's it Tab Jan 2016 #10
Big chunck of my parents 401(k) exboyfil Jan 2016 #16
I don't even want to talk about my mother's savings account Tab Jan 2016 #17
I just want to hug you and your loved ones. artislife Jan 2016 #21
Thank you frazzled Jan 2016 #23
So, even with the best health insurance... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #11
i dont think this is about health care but rather future income for the family JI7 Jan 2016 #12
k&r Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #14
Sorry houston16revival Jan 2016 #15
It's not often we're clever enough to take away an absolute bad from a good deed. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #18
Yes houston16revival Jan 2016 #20
They are deep friends. nt artislife Jan 2016 #22
they genuinely love and respect each other demtenjeep Jan 2016 #24
I agree. nt laundry_queen Jan 2016 #27
Thanks Obama! AngryAmish Jan 2016 #25
Beautiful gesture.. whathehell Jan 2016 #28
That's doing a friend a solid. WheelWalker Jan 2016 #29
Obama's a good guy. So is Biden. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #30

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
3. I wonder if contemplating the move was more of an
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jan 2016

issue of keeping 2 (or 3 since he was still VP) houses and not being there for Beau's wife and children. I think Joe would do anything for family, and I know that we've had instances in our own family where parents have moved closer to kids (or vice versa) when faced with difficult medical issues, etc.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
9. I have to wonder, though...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

and I'm sure it was a sincere moment - not taking away from that, or the generous offer - but don't all senators and upper government officials have good lifetime healthcare? Would that not extend to their families? I know why *I* need help with medical bills, but not sure why he doesn't have coverage.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. I doubt there are any insurance plans that cover
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

Fully adult children. The ACA requires covering up to 26 if the kid is in school.

The issue was more about what would happen when/if Beau had to leave his job. It's a flaw in our insurance approach being mostly built around one's employer.


valerief

(53,235 posts)
19. As long as the VP isn't whoring thief Cheney. What am I saying? Everyone knows he was
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jan 2016

the Shadow President.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
26. Biden was a workhorse in Congress who didn't use his position to get rich quick.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jan 2016

It's one reason I've always respected the man greatly.

It was classy of Obama to offer to help him keep his house.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
5. wish people did not
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jan 2016

have to worry about health care costs.everyone deserves the best care possible.
Very nice of PBO to offer.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. It doesn't appear to be about the health care costs
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

It was apparently about the possibility that Beau would have to resign his job because of his health situation. This would put his family in a difficult situation, in terms of paying the mortgage, possibly school tuitions, etc. The elder Bidens were willing to sell their home to keep things going for the family.

I'm sure Beau Biden had good health insurance that covered the preponderance of the medical bills. It's when the rest of your life falls apart because of cancer that things get tough. How do I know this? Because we've just lived through a tough year of cancer. Our insurance covered absolutely everything (and I'm talking about 2 substantial hospital stays, one major and 3 smaller surgeries, 5 months of chemo, etc.). Our only costs were parking fees for the hospital and doctors, and $40 copays for each specialist visit. But we would STILL have been in huge trouble but for one good bit of fortune--my husband did not have to go on unpaid leave. The illness happened to coincide with his scheduled sabbatical. If he had had to stop working and we had no money coming in, we would have had impossible financial difficulties. And I dare say he would not have done as well as he has.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
10. Perhaps that's it
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jan 2016

My healthcare costs, though substantial, get picked up here and there, but on top of that is my lifestyle (such that it is now) that really needs me to work to be sustained. Otherwise, yes, the house and other things I've worked for go down the drain. That's our challenge now.

I'm even selling my piano (actually donating it to a local school) to reduce my footprint for when I have to move. That's the point I know things start looking irretrievable.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
16. Big chunck of my parents 401(k)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

went for travel expenses to Houston when my dad was dying of cancer. He had decent insurance (fortunately he kept his company insurance after retirement whose premiums was somewhat subsidized). He had thought about going naked with insurance until he reached 65 (Medicare).

My mom got kicked off his insurance when he died, and she ended up with significant bills when she purchased a bare bones policy that really did not pay much.

Laws change but if they remain the same. I am looking at working until I am 68 and my wife qualifies for Medicare (I am currently 52 and my wife is 49).

Tab

(11,093 posts)
17. I don't even want to talk about my mother's savings account
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jan 2016

I feel so bad for that - she's helped us through to the point that it's screwed up her retirement.

I moved to a Roth IRA some time ago when I figured out I might not make it to 65. I'm basically the same age as you. And signs point to an economic collapse in 2016. I don't know whether that's good for us (aid) or bad for us (zero money flow).

It's going to be an interesting year.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
21. I just want to hug you and your loved ones.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jan 2016

What a tough time.

My brother just got the all clear on his cancer but those days were so tough, the amount of time he had to work to pay off all the co pays..he had "good" insurance but it is so costly. I will be forever in debt to his wonderful girlfriend of 18 years...she was his nurse and worked for most of one year as he recovered.

There is so much heartache and fatigue. I fully understand your site name...

May your family enjoy the best year yet.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. i dont think this is about health care but rather future income for the family
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

If he had to resign they would lose that income and possibly whatever future income they planned for based on his political career.

Selling their house would help with making up for any loss in income but Obama offered to help with money so they would not need to sell the house.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
15. Sorry
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jan 2016

I'm as true blue a Biden fan as anyone, having followed his Senate career
on Philadelphia news, but ...

while they may have anxiety over costs of healthcare, our political leaders
don't have worries about paying for them.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. It's not often we're clever enough to take away an absolute bad from a good deed.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

It's not often we're clever enough to take away an absolute bad from a good deed. But that's humanity for you...

houston16revival

(953 posts)
20. Yes
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

People see things in all sorts of different ways. They have internal inconsistencies,
and doubts, and don't trust everyone, or those above them. That's what makes
life. If we all thought the same it would be boring.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
30. Obama's a good guy. So is Biden.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jan 2016

If it weren't for his touting TPP, I would think him a great president instead of a darned good one.

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