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Separation

(1,975 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:24 AM Jan 2016

A big ol slice of humble pie!

Well, that is if republicans knew what being humble meant! Last night we saw what would happen if republicans were in power, total war over nothing. Last night 10 Sailors were held overnight because their boat broke down, had bad comms, and drifted into Iranian waters. The Iranians picked them up, held them and their boat until morning. They were released this morning, with all equipment.

I heard everything from launching tomahawks, to sending in SEAL teams to rescue the men and one woman who was "captured". The biggest thing was they were talking about this only happened because President Obama was weak. I am thankful that President Obama was sitting in the Oval Office last night and not any republican.

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A big ol slice of humble pie! (Original Post) Separation Jan 2016 OP
Damn... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #1
Yeah, but it's never 'their' body bags. sarge43 Jan 2016 #4
yes, and "you see how weak Obama is?" which makes NO sense in this situation but CTyankee Jan 2016 #10
Also, "If it bleeds, it leads." sarge43 Jan 2016 #13
"I had other priorities," said Cheney. For some reason, this enrages me whenever I KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #11
When I remember it, enraged is where I start and it gets worse from there. sarge43 Jan 2016 #15
Yeah, like no one else had "other priorities" It seems to translate to "I was too good to go". whathehell Jan 2016 #18
I wish voters would learn from this Martin Eden Jan 2016 #2
Exactly! Separation Jan 2016 #3
Precisely, this went smoothly because the Obama Admin dialogues with iran. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #7
Anyone who says Democrats & Republicans are the same can kiss my ass. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #5
I this k some credit should probly go to SoS Kerry, to whom the Iranians probly felt bound to KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #14
I was watching one of the Talking Head Shows (I'm not sure which one; I was cooking dinner) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #6
I think I saw the same exchange: MSNBC. Yes that military guy was scary, wanted Obama to make SOTU 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #21
RETIRED Military Guy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #23
Good post! SoapBox Jan 2016 #8
Sounds like they want John Wayne in the white house... yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #9
Republicans Punx Jan 2016 #12
Republicans and humble can't be used in the same sentence NoMoreRepugs Jan 2016 #16
Republicans want to go to war with all of Islam in the name of Jayzuz. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #17
The US has a wild west mentality - go in guns blazing & count the bodies later. CrispyQ Jan 2016 #19
Some "Ex-military" RW-er was on MSNBC, calling for O to DEMAND IMMEDIATE RELEASE 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #20
True but in the neo-con world malaise Jan 2016 #22

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
10. yes, and "you see how weak Obama is?" which makes NO sense in this situation but
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jan 2016

it's the answer we always get, no matter what. If it rains it's Obama's fault...

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
13. Also, "If it bleeds, it leads."
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jan 2016

A lust for mayhem guarantees a ratings boost. Always follow the money.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. When I remember it, enraged is where I start and it gets worse from there.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jan 2016

Having a couple of friends and loved ones listed on The Wall.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
18. Yeah, like no one else had "other priorities" It seems to translate to "I was too good to go".
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jan 2016

Elitist scumbag.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
2. I wish voters would learn from this
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jan 2016

Instead, this episode, if anything, will only reinorce the narrative in the minds of the Republican base that this president is weak. They won't remember our sailors were promptly returned without threats and their eyes won't be opened to how they've been manipulated by deceitful politians who are reckless and dangerous.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
3. Exactly!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jan 2016

These men & women were returned not through blustering and brute force. They were returned because President Obama and his Sec. of State now have some sort of diplomatic relations with Iran.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Precisely, this went smoothly because the Obama Admin dialogues with iran.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jan 2016
Paranoid politics is a mental disease! Birchers are totally nuts.
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
14. I this k some credit should probly go to SoS Kerry, to whom the Iranians probly felt bound to
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jan 2016

show respect.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. I was watching one of the Talking Head Shows (I'm not sure which one; I was cooking dinner) ...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

and folks were screaming that we need to "project strength to the Iranians (and all other potential adversaries), to the American people, and to the families of the Sailors"!!!!!

Then, one of the panelist indicated that Kerry suggested that the Iranian Government didn't even know about the Sailors until he called ... and that "projection of strength" would have endangered the Sailors, as the faction that was holding the Sailors, actually welcomes a fight with the U.S.; whereas, the Iranian Government does not.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. I think I saw the same exchange: MSNBC. Yes that military guy was scary, wanted Obama to make SOTU
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jan 2016

totally about declaring war on Iran "if those Navy personnel aren't delivered to the WH steps
within a few hours" or some such nonsense.

It was Rachael Maddow who thankfully shut the guy up with a strong dose of reason & common
sense; but yah, that was an interesting exchange. I was so glad Maddow was there, cuz those
other guys seemed content to let Mr. Bellicose blather on and on.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
9. Sounds like they want John Wayne in the white house...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

Someone who will go kick some ass, just to be a great Murican.... geeze, I wish they would fall off their high horses and pass out for a while, after a few cold beers.

Punx

(446 posts)
12. Republicans
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jan 2016

Need an enemy. They have nothing else to offer us. If they need to kill some armed forces members, or you, me to have one, or start a war for that matter, they will.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,410 posts)
16. Republicans and humble can't be used in the same sentence
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jan 2016

Because humble denotes realizing one isn't infallible

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
19. The US has a wild west mentality - go in guns blazing & count the bodies later.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016

The media has amplified the voice of these blowhards & assholes, all for ratings. The feds don't do anything about Bundy type criminals & it has emboldened the worst of the worst in our society. The discourse in this country is lower than I've ever seen.

Today, on FB, a friend posted a graphic about Trump and all the negatives, quite a scathing list, & someone responded, "Still better than anything on the dem side."

Dumb & dumber, but armed to the max. What could go wrong?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
20. Some "Ex-military" RW-er was on MSNBC, calling for O to DEMAND IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

of the Navy personnel and make that his WHOLE fucking SOTU speech!! Thankfully Maddow was
there to shut this idiot up & down and sideways, mostly ... but he kept insisting it would be "irresponsible"
for Obama not to suddenly make this Iran incident the centerpiece of his SOTU.

Thank you Obama, for your clear head, your measured temperament, and your unwillingness to bend
to the MIC mouthpieces, bellicose pundits and GOP warmongers.

malaise

(268,913 posts)
22. True but in the neo-con world
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jan 2016

America is weak unless she can move in on any country and violate every international treaty and still be greeted with garlands.

That is what they want - imperialism on steroids.

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