Republican: "You can't call us out by quoting the Bible. We own Christianity."

[DetlefK]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dave-brat-conservatives-own-the-bible_5697536fe4b0ce4964234b53
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/goper-dave-brat-attacks-obama-citing-bible-says-right-owns-tradition-christian-love

... in which Brat expressed his anger that Obama cited Christian teachings when he criticized Republicans for their attempts to block the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the U.S.

The president, Brat said, “is using the Christian tradition and trying to bring about compassion by bonking Republicans over the head with the Bible. It’s almost a comedy routine on what compassion and love is. He’s mocking his enemies in order to compel a larger federal state using the tradition of love.”

He said that the conservative movement “needs to reeducate its people that we own the entire tradition” of Christian love, because liberal professors “have rejected natural law” and religious ideas.




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1. You obviously aren't allowed to make an argument from the Bible unless you are a Republican.

2. You obviously aren't allowed to mention that Jesus commanded us to care for the weak. Only the GOP gets to lecture people about christian love and why christian love calls for a smaller federal government.

3. Maybe this "good Christian" should actually read the Bible. There are no natural laws in the Bible. Such a concept does not exist in Christianity. There is only God's will. The concept of laws of nature was invented in the 13th Century by the esoteric Ramon Llull.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramon_Llull

[Vinca]

1. They hate being confronted with the words they claim to have read.

The majority of atheists I know act more "Christian" than GOP Bible thumpers by actually helping to feed the poor, house the homeless, heal the sick and all that other stuff that doesn't have to do with the prosperity gospel.

[Protalker]

6. Vince just stop at hate.

Perhaps they need to see Ship of Fools.

[Jerry442]

2. Those liberal professors rule with an iron fist.

Step out of line even for a second and their goon squads will show up at your doorstep to reeducate you.

[rjsquirrel]

10. Brat is a professor lol

Albeit at some third rate Jesus School.

[Lizzie Poppet]

22. These days, he's a Congressman.

So I suppose he's moved up in the world (thus demonstrating the adage "scum floats&quot .

[rjsquirrel]

34. I'm guessing

He is on leave from a tenured position.

[KamaAina]

38. The professor is a Brat.

And I'm not talking about a type of sausage popular in Wisconsin.

[deminks]

3. I call their brand of Christianity 'trickle down Jesus'

Just like everything else, money, politics, food, water, energy, healthcare. They own it and will decide when to tell us it is trickling down their leg for us to sample.


They really know little of their own 'religion'. They only spew what their propagandists tell them to spew.

[maxrandb]

36. I call it 'Old Testament Christianity"

because they haven't gotten past the Book of Leviticus in their Bible Study courses yet.

[C_U_L8R]

4. And there you have the warped Republican mindset

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They think they OWN christianity.

They'd do much better to serve it.

[meow2u3]

47. Repukes not only think they own Christianity

They think they own God! They'll find out the hard way about who owns whom when they die and have to account for their lives.

[randys1]

51. Without exaggeration, the least christian humans alive are gop christians

ANY human being other than them, other than mass murderers, is better than they are at being Christian.

[ladyVet]

5. Having been married to one of those "conservative" Christians,

I can tell you that they don't actually read the Bible. They go by what their pastors tell them is in the book. They pick and choose parts, paraphrase and reword it until it fits whatever meme is deemed acceptable. They also mainly look to the Old Testament, which I was taught in Sunday school was the book Jews lived by, but that Christians had abandoned to follow the Messiah's teachings.

I had many a discussion with my then-husband about the crap he came home and spouted off to me, daring him to show me where it said that in the Bible. He could not. I could go to the chapter/verse and show him it was in fact exactly the opposite meaning than what his pastor had spent hours/days/weeks lying to him about the "Good Word".

Considering that every bit of that mess reputed to be God's word was stolen from all the pagan religions that had gone before it, I don't see why anyone has any use for it at all. Don't even think about all this supposed "God's word" crap got left out over the centuries. If it's the sky man's own words, why wasn't it deemed good enough to be in the book? Maybe because it didn't support those who were even then using this "new" religion to control people for the benefit of the leaders?

[Jerry442]

8. Follow not those who plucketh words from the tree of knowledge...

...taking only those that they find most fair and seemly, for they deceiveth themselves and others, and the fair and succulent fruit they take into their mouths will turn bitter and foul.

[keithbvadu2]

46. Good one! Love it!

Did you write it?

If not where did it come from?

[Jerry442]

48. I'd love to think it was inspired, but really, made up. NT

[keithbvadu2]

50. Ya done good!

[CanonRay]

13. Spot on!

[KentuckyWoman]

18. "Show me" starts a war.........

Of course it's useful if you just want them to flounce off and leave you the hell alone.

And they will flounce off in a huge huff.......

[Ed Suspicious]

7. Right you just don't believe in it. You don't live it.

You bought it, appropriated it's logo for your office materials, and mothballed the rest.

[Generic Other]

9. Owning and following are two different things

Republican meet eye of needle. Tight fit.

[central scrutinizer]

20. Saw this bumper sticker:

"Do you follow Jesus this closely?"

[Donkees]

11. "Spiritual Narcissism"

"...makes the spiritual quest a self-aggrandizing process rather than a journey of deepening humility"

[KittyWampus]

40. Thank You for that. Fits well.

[bemildred]

12. Our own Christian takfiris.

How quaint.

[TexasProgresive]

14. What he is saying is that he owns G-d

This is rank idolatry for any theists. That means one is putting themselves in the place of G-d and not recognizing that they are creatures and not the creator. In a sense bibliolaters are really closet atheists who just wish to use the Bible as a weapon. There ilk is to be found in the radicalized Imans who do the same with the Quran.

[Frank Cannon]

15. HA! I challenge this asshole to a DUEL!

I can't tell you how many right-wing fuckwits I have torn apart in religious arguments because, unlike them, I have actually READ and studied the book they profess to know so much about... multiple times.

My wife is another bleeding heart liberal who was raised in the Bible Belt and spent much more than her share of time in church or religious classes well into adulthood. She would DESTROY this clown in a religious debate. She would reduce him to choked sobbing.

I would love to see John Fugelsang get in a forum with this asshole. He's particularly good at this because his parents were in the church, and he even went to the seminary for a while, as I recall.

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. Well, to be fair, this jackass might actually be some competition.

Princeton Theological Seminary is a very good school, and a Masters in Divinity from that institution is a not-insignificant credential. But his political statements don't exactly indicate superior critical thinking skills, so I'd say you're in with a chance. Go git him!

[pampango]

16. Conservative religious types (Christian, Muslim, etc.) prefer the sword to the plowshare.

To them, religion is a dog-eat-dog, kill-or-be-killed concept.

To liberal religious (and non-religious) types life is more about plowshares than swords and how to we learn to get along despite our differences rather than fighting or isolating each other.

[randome]

17. .

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[yellowcanine]

19. 'reeducate its people that we own the entire tradition” of Christian love'

Wow. Can't decide if that is fascist or just stupid. Maybe both.

[jwirr]

21. Brat is a hypocrit and does not in any way shape of form

speak for every church and every Christian. But even worse he is a fool.

[whatthehey]

23. He's right. They do.

Or at the very least the vast and growing majority of it



And for that you can blame the namby pamby "liberal Christians", what few are left that is, who sat quivering in their pews afraid to object when the hateful fundies started speaking for Jeebus in the 70s. Nobody who remembered the nicer bits of the NT thought it was worth the time and money and effort, that the far right poured in huge waves to tell us all who Gawd hates, so that they might mention whom he supposedly loves. I know they think the meek will inherit the earth but they are doing a piss poor impression of inheriting anything in secular politics. While we still have secular politics.

[Initech]

24. Jesus is for sale? I had no idea!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. Natural law theory was proposed by Thomas Aquinas, who got it from Aristotle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas

[hobbit709]

27. If they own it then that's all the more reason to have nothing to do with it.

[madamesilverspurs]

28. Noted.

[YoungDemCA]

29. The use of the word "own" is telling

These jokers have no concept of anything other than private ownership - exclusionary, greedy, and spiteful.

[KittyWampus]

33. It's stitching the corpse of Materialist philosophy over the frame of Spirituality.

It so totally twists the inner essence of Christianity it makes me want to scream, break something.

How do you penetrate such darkness?

Comedy, art and music, I suppose. For the few that can still be reached.

[Orsino]

30. That tingle means it's working. n/t

[KittyWampus]

31. And mass media helps promulgate this abhorrent, dishonest nonsense.

Whenever the mass media features some 'Christian' perspective, they always seem to choose a freak like this from the dark side.

[haele]

32. Damnit, I know I should have gotten to the Estate Sale sooner to buy Christianity

but I only found out that God died after Time reported it. I wondered what happened to it.

I remember I asked God to leave Christianity to me when the time came because I thought I'd be able to take care of it pretty well, but darn it, you know Him, he just forgot to add it to the will. So, how much are you asking for it?

"We bought Christianity!" Really? Did you buy God - is God your Slave, now?

Hmmm...I think there a significant story about their God Jesus in the Temple, and something about vendors and tables maintained by buddies of the priests where money was being changed and choice "sacrifices" bought by hypocrites who just wanted to be able to show how rich and powerful they were to the people who really did sacrifice something they otherwise needed?

Haele

[Fast Walker 52]

39. LOL! This sad thing is you can't even satirize this level of insanity.

[smirkymonkey]

35. K&R

[Fast Walker 52]

37. Holy Douchebag, Batman!

This guy is completely bonkers.

[hifiguy]

41. The arrogance and stupidity of that statement

beggars the imagination.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. "..some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity;

It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies. - Letters from the Earth

[gregcrawford]

43. Utterly malignant evil...

... waves a flag and cloaks itself in the blood-soaked shroud of a perverted interpretation of "Christianity."

The vilest and most hateful people I have ever met have been diseased mutants like Brat who are infected with the current strain of the "uber-Christian" flu, for which no cure has yet been found.

H.L. Mencken said, "Religion is the greatest fomentor of hatred and intolerance in the history of humanity." or words to that effect.

[hifiguy]

49. "Of all humanity's myriad inventions,

religion is unquestionably the worst." hifiguy a/k/a Unicorn J Sparklepony (at least that's what some call me )

[Matariki]

44. Dave #BratShitCrazy

[NoMoreRepugs]

45. this is the maroon that defeated Cantor

a former prof from a Methodist college - can u spell T-E-A-B-A-G-G-E-R???

[niyad]

52. you are assuming that these cretinous assholes can actually read--or, at least, read with

any degree of comprehension.