13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi

[left-of-center2012]

"An American Ambassador is killed during an attack at a U.S. compound in Libya as a security team struggles to make sense out of the chaos."
... a 2016 American biographical action war thriller film produced and directed by Michael Bay and written by Chuck Hogan, based on the 2013 book 13 Hours by Mitchell Zuckoff. It is based on the story of the six members of a security team who fought to defend the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi, after a terrorist attack on September 11, 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hours:_The_Secret_Soldiers_of_Benghazi

(How,if at all, will this affect HRC's prospects for the Democratic nomination?)

[Rex]

1. Well considering it is all fiction created by Michael Bay

I would expect zero.

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. Except for those that are willing to believe anything that supports ...

what they wish to believe ... no matter how outlandish.

[yeoman6987]

3. I'm thinking about seeing it

I am a Hillary supporter and need to know what's in the movie to know how to counter the BS.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. "You DO know that was a fictional movie, right?" ...

Seems to be an adequate response. And if you wish to twist the knife, you could add: "Just like American Sniper, The 300, and The Smurf movies.

[yeoman6987]

23. Lol. That made me laugh. I love it. Thanks!!!!!

[Kingofalldems]

16. Just like clockwork.

Obvious.

[Kingofalldems]

22. This OP of yours says you are a Bernie supporter:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251417437

Did you change your mind?

[NCTraveler]

29. That is from over six months ago.

You don't think someone can change the candidate they support over a six month period of time? Isn't that what the primaries are for. To try and get voters.

[Kingofalldems]

33. I asked a question.

[NCTraveler]

34. OK. Seems the answer is pretty clear.

"I am a Hillary supporter "

[Kingofalldems]

36. You don't tell me what I can/ cannot ask or post.

[NCTraveler]

37. I didn't. At any point. nt.

[Kingofalldems]

39. Good for you. My post stands.

[NCTraveler]

40. I see it. It does stand. Not sure why it wouldn't.

They are now supporting Hillary. Just thought I would be nice and answer your question. To be clear, I didn't ask them. I read their words.

[RandiFan1290]

42. You didn't believe him either

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251417437#post58

[NCTraveler]

44. Not sure what that has to do with asked and answered.

Unlike what you pointed out, my conversation here was with someone else. Maybe you want to point out where I asked a question that has already been answered.

How is Randi?

[RandiFan1290]

45. You're not very good at this

Randi is great!

How is Rush? Has he read any more of your posts on the air?

[NCTraveler]

47. Not that I am aware of. I don't listen to him.

Glad to hear about Randi. Seems cool down was necessary.

Not sure what I am suppose to be good at here. lol.

[RandiFan1290]

43.

[Kingofalldems]

46. Thank you. I think you got my drift.

[Rex]

4. Those folks were not going to vote for HRC anyways.

They had their mind made up before the film imo.

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. True ... for folks on the right and the Left. eom.

[Schema Thing]

7. Why do you think it is fiction?

I mean, it's not a documentary, but it is based on the book, which seems to be fairly accurate.


Not that it will hurt Hillary in any way. Why would it?

[Rex]

10. Because the guy that made it is a crackpot RWinger.

Nothing against the book...but Bay is known for his RWing politics. Let me know if it sticks to the narrative in the book. I refuse to watch MB movies.

[Schema Thing]

11. I'm sure it will be short on detail and history, and long on bang-bang

The book is long on history and detail.

If anything, I think this may end up helping Hillary, because the guy who ordered the CIA contractors to stand down was the CIA chief there at that station.

[randys1]

26. Stand down? sigh

lets have a link to the House report about this stand down please

[Schema Thing]

41. honestly, dude. read a little.

Stand down. Don't go over there. Stay here. Whatever.


It happened. Hillary Clinton didn't have (nor shouldn't have had) anything to do with it.

Get over yourself.


:sigh:

[randys1]

48. Still waiting for those links.

[NCTraveler]

31. "Why do you think it is fiction?"

Because it is.

[mfcorey1]

32. Listen to this interview

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2016/01/15/rashad-richey-interviews-benghazi-soldiers/

The newly released film 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi details the true story of six elite ex-soldiers detailed to protect CIA agents embattled with terrorists that attacked a U.S. diplomatic compound on September 11, 2012. Three of the six elite soldiers spoke with Rashad Richey about the film and how they didn’t allow the highly politicized attack deter them from telling their story.

[karynnj]

8. I assume enough self selection in who goes to see it that it will roughly equivalent to F911.

I would bet on the right there are true believers who think this is a silver bulllet - even though it is fiction. I also remember the reaction on Democratic sites to F911 - it "destroyed Bush". In fact, I saw the film because I was in a book club that opted to see the film that month rather than read a book. I was nowhere near as involved with DK, DU or even the Kerry blog because I was (strange to say so now) too shy to write anything.

Still I was stunned that in a group of NJ liberal Jewish women - the film was negatively received. The connect the dot lines to most seemed completely unproved. (Things like BCCI were known to no one but me) With that group - all were supporting Kerry.

[Iggo]

9. Because everything has to be alerted on...

On Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:10 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027529895

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

It is inappropriate on DU to push right wing nut case movies that are being promoted by Newsmax and the Free Republic

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:13 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yes, it's a Right wing film, but I'm not too keen on stifling speech.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yeah, that movie's bullshit. So call Bullshit.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is asking if or how this might effect her candidacy.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[el_bryanto]

12. Seriously?

That's nuts. People are alerting way to much these days.

Bryant

[TeddyR]

14. I'm not sure which is more ridiculous

The fact that someone alerted on this or the fact that a few others agreed to hide.

Anyway, I'm not sure what makes Bay a well known RW nut but his movies generally aren't that good. And this is a mainstream movie, not something produced by World Net Daily.

[Maedhros]

15. The alert is stupid, but the movie IS jingoistic trash...[n/t]

[el_bryanto]

19. I pretty much agree (as much as I can having not seen it) - but that doesn't mean it's

not a fit subject for conversation.

Bryant

[left-of-center2012]

21. "It is asking if or how this might effect her candidacy"

Can't have that, now can we?

[yeoman6987]

24. I can't believe it was almost hidden

[11 Bravo]

28. Sadly, I can. Easily.

[NightWatcher]

13. Well, Bernie isn't the target of a movie to drag him through the mud.

And everyone knows the name Citizens United, but most don't remember that it was about a movie that was anti Hillary the last time she was running for the Dem nomination.

There is a huge anti Hillary anti Clinton sentiment in this country.

It's just more Hillary hate.

Bernie will not run into this much organized hate if he should get the nomination.

It is something that needs to be thought about before we select a candidate to run for national office and a largely popular vote.

[GusBob]

17. Ya every time I vote I worry about what some hater is thinking

Not

[NightWatcher]

18. Let's nominate someone who's unfavorable rating is 51.9% nationally

We should worry about her electability for the upcoming national election.

To not consider electability in an election is foolish and will leave us with President Trump.

To stubbornly stand behind a candidate who will lose the National is similar to a Nader vote on principle. How'd that Nader vote turn out for us back in 2000?

[GusBob]

20. Let's vote for whomever one may chose without giving a fuck what other people think

What is your problem with that?

[Kablooie]

25. Here we go again. Benghazi front and foremost just in time for the election.

It doesn't matter how fictional it is, the right will take it as gospel, (as they do the bible), and the benghazi rallying cry will rise up once again to accost America with it's inane, screeching babble.

[Katashi_itto]

30. Agree. But that Hillary's problem.

[LanternWaste]

35. Less a problem, a more a benign concern

Less a problem, a more a benign concern I would imagine...

[Katashi_itto]

38. If you say so...considering all the other flack -self inflicted or otherwise she has to deal with.

[Katashi_itto]

27. I am not a Hillary Supporter. I plan to go see it cause I want to see the Decepticons in action.

Optimus Prime has to show up somewhere.

Plus I love lots of explosions. It's Michael Bay after all.