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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Yes and we have the F-35 project taking up more than a trillion dollars to date, still has
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jan 2016

not produced a functioning version.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. Duh. War is a racket, and in America, it's THE racket.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jan 2016

We work most of the year to keep arms manufacturers and other war profiteers rich.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. I keep on thinking,
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jan 2016

every time people scream about how expensive universal health care (even at a fairly basic level) would be, I want to ask them just how expensive they think our military is?

It breaks my heart to realize that so many people in this country, at all levels, are willing, even eager, to build another fighter, bomb another village, give another billion to some unethical contractor, while not thinking it's right that everyone should have access to good health care. It's why we are, sadly, not the greatest country on earth, just the militarily most powerful. For the time being.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
4. Yes, also all the trillions of dollars sucked out of the system by the exorbitantly wealthy.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jan 2016

Like our other problems, this one is caused by the fucked up politics of this country. The claim that we can't afford it is a lie.


 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
14. Ike said it best. Just as true now. Can you imagine how awesome our country would be if we'd spent
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

The last 50 years waging peace instead of war!

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
7. We already spend way to much on healthcare...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

This entire argument about paying for healthcare is based on the idea that U.S. costs are necessarily sky high to provide good care. They are not!

The United States health care system is the most expensive in the world, but this report and prior editions consistently show the U.S. underperforms relative to other countries on most dimensions of performance. Among the 11 nations studied in this report—Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States—the U.S. ranks last, as it did in the 2010, 2007, 2006, and 2004 editions of Mirror, Mirror. Most troubling, the U.S. fails to achieve better health outcomes than the other countries, and as shown in the earlier editions, the U.S. is last or near last on dimensions of access, efficiency, and equity.


http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirror

Even Cuba with a very, very poorly funded system does better!

Figures from the World Health Organization clearly show that The United States lags behind 36 other countries in overall health system performance ranging from infant mortality, to adult mortality, to life expectancy.

20 countries in Europe and four countries in Asia have a better life expectancy than the U.S. If you are a male between the ages of 15 and 59, your chances of dying are higher in the U.S. (140 per thousand) than in Canada, 95, Costa Rica 127, Chile 134, and Cuba, 138.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/cuba-has-better-medical-c_b_19664.html

It is not about money, it's about capitalists sucking the blood out of the populace like the slimey leeches they are.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. That needs to change. That is why we need Bernie.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

I think we have had enough with the defense department sucking up our tax dollars for nothing.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. ''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

"Commercial interests are very powerful interests," said George W Bush on Feb. 14, 2007 White House press conference in which he added, "Let me put it this way, ah, sometimes, ah, money trumps peace." And then he giggled and not a single member of the callow, cowed and corrupt press corpse saw fit to ask a follow-up.



Gold Star mom Cindy Sheehan tried to bring it to our nation's attention back in 2007. I don't recall even one reporter from the national corporate owned news seeing it fit to comment. Certainly not many have commented on how three generations of Bush men -- Senator Prescott Sheldon Bush, President George Herbert Walker Bush and pretzeldent George Walker Bush all had their eyes on Iraq's oil at least since the Eisenhower administration.

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