Shouldn't Obama be appointing a panel that will name a Governor of Michigan?

[rufus dog]

Since the state was able to take over local government of Flint, and now the state has failed and is asking for 100 million from the Feds. Isn't the next logical step for the Feds to take over? I expect Obama to appoint a new Governor by the end of the month.

Edit to add, SARCASM!

The Koch Bros. have pushed through the idiotic policy of state takeover of local governments.

[Agschmid]

1. Ummm.... Ever read the constitution?

[rufus dog]

3. Wouldn't this be the logical next step?

Local elected state officials can be relieved of their duty and the State takes over in MI.

[Agschmid]

7. Nope. Not at all.

I'd suggest reviewing the constitution...

[Takket]

10. The OP is being sarcastic

Snyder imposed a law that allows him to appoint a single person that can dismiss local elected officials and run a municipality on their own. In 2012 we had a statewide referendum on this law and DEFEATED it. I voted to repeal the law for the exact reason that it is/was unconstitutional.

So the OP is mocking Snyder... basically saying if Snyder can dismiss local officials, why can't Obama dismiss him?

[Crepuscular]

15. Well.......

in all fairness, the emergency manager law was an act of the Legislature, it was not imposed by the Governor. The previous EM law that had been repealed by the 2012 referendum had been used by both Democrat and Republican Governors in the past.

[hack89]

8. Lets talk legal not logical shall we?

MI state law allows them to do what they did. It does not allow the feds to do the same.

[TeddyR]

2. I'm not aware of any authority

That would permit the president to appoint a governor.

[1939]

4. ummm

The US is a union of "sovereign states" and the president does not have that power. On the other hand, counties, cities, townships, towns, and villages function under state charters with the states having broad powers to consolidate, break apart, revoke charters, etc..

[KingCharlemagne]

12. Please explain that to residents of western Virginia, ca. 1860 - nt

[Wounded Bear]

13. I believe that is handled in the Constitution...

Not sure where, but I think it's in there, although the fact that the state was in rebellion at the time kind of aided the deal.

[NutmegYankee]

14. It falls under Article IV, section 3, clause 2.

When Virginia succeeded, it effectively dissolved itself as a state, but it's land was still part of the USA as a territory. The Federal government then formed a new state from a portion of that territory in 1863. Virginia tried to sue to get the western portion back but lost. The arguments and legal debate is messy, but even Virginia eventually agreed that West Virginia was legally formed.

As and interesting note, WV isn't the first state to be created from another. Kentucky for instance was once part of Virginia.

[1939]

17. State claims to western lands

At one time, many of the east coast states claimed their northern and southern borders extended to the west for an indefinite distance and claimed ownership of all the land. One of the compromises worked out was to set western borders for the original thirteen states and allow the lands to the west (Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee) to revert to the federal government. In return, the federal government picked up the revolutionary war debt and soldier pension debt for all of the states. The federal government then sold off the lands to pay off the debts.

West Virginia was a political power grab by Lincoln and of dubious constitutionality. It can certainly be justified as being strategically smart from a military standpoint. Virginia agreed to not contest the land grab as a condition of being accepted back into the union and being allowed to vote for their own government.

[NutmegYankee]

18. It wasn't a land grab.

The land belonged to the United States of America. Virginia ceased to exist after it succeeded. It was eventually readmitted as a state.

Virginia played a stupid game, and it won a stupid prize.

[1939]

19. While the Civil War pretty much settled things militarily

One of the reasons that Jeff Davis never went to trial for treason was that the administration didn't want a court looking into whether or not a sovereign state had a right to leave the union which it had voluntarily joined under the constitution.

The southern armies surrendered and federal forces occupied the south, so the question was moot, but Davis would certainly have raised the issue in court and any court decision is always a crap shoot. The Federal authorities were hoping that Davis would escape and leave the country but he ran into Wilson's cavalry and was captured. They locked him up in Fort Monroe and thought about it for a long time before just quietly releasing him to go home and write a self-justifying memoir.

If Virginia had the right to secede, then splitting off a part of the state was illegal.

[NutmegYankee]

20. If Congress had voted to let them leave, it would have been legal.

But they didn't. So a few states decided to do it illegally. And hundreds of thousands paid for it with their lives.

[procon]

5. Is this a joke? nt

[Bucky]

9. Not how it works, but definitely aid should be tied to criminal prosecutions of the cover-up

(And for the record, it was plenty clear that you were being ironic. DU is not the place to come to if you can't filter parody from reality)

[NCjack]

11. Making executive appointments -- isn't that the job of the SCOTUS?. /nt

[moondust]

16. You're thinking of the DeVos family.

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DeVos' — including Amway co-founder Richard and current company president Doug — combined to give $2.3 million to the Michigan Republican Party, $640,000 to the state House Republican Campaign Committee and $520,000 to the Senate Republican Campaign Committee.

Family members also gave $122,430 to Gov. Rick Snyder's re-election campaign, $71,400 to Attorney General Bill Schuette and $61,200 each to Michigan Supreme Court candidates David Viviano, Brian Zahra and James Robert Redford.

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Report: DeVos family, Michigan's 'most potent interest group,' spent $4.9M in 2014 elections