Oshkosh (21 year old) woman ID'd as Milwaukee freezing death...Ya I know,

[HereSince1628]

Give all you folks a break about talking about cold weather...

Yep, it gets colder in lots of places than it was here in Milwaukee. And yep, if you wear proper clothes, make sure you don't do stuff to test your Darwinian Fitness, like drinking maybe too much, walking from a party, rather than leaving in a car, passing-out on the sidewalk and freezing to death... it's not too dangerous.

Feel sorry for her family. Her body wasn't noticed until 9 am

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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/oshkosh-woman-idd-as-partyer-who-froze-to-death-in-milwaukee-b99653799z1-365665451.html

A 21-year-old woman who froze to death on a sidewalk in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood was identified Monday as an Oshkosh woman.

The medical examiner's report released Monday says Elizabeth Luebke came to Milwaukee to attend a concert. She then went to a party at a house a few blocks from where her body was found, about 9 a.m. Sunday, in the 800 block E. Keefe Ave.

[onecaliberal]

1. RIP So sorry.

[HereSince1628]

3. Yes, very sad.

[Ex Lurker]

2. Alcohol dilates the blood vessels

which makes the body lose heat even faster.

[HereSince1628]

4. Yes, and can make people more impulsive/less thoughtful

[postulater]

5. I feel sad for her family and those that were with her.

I have daughters that age and they were out that night in Madison. I am glad they were together but I was still a bit worried about the cold. They Uberred home apparently.

In summertime that girl would just have woken up on somebody's front yard to the birds chirping. This time of year......

[HereSince1628]

6. It happens too regularly, same with falling thru ice...it's a sadway to educate

people.

[postulater]

10. Or into the river.

My daughters joke about my wife worrying about them disappearing into the river.

[Snobblevitch]

7. When I was a junior in college,

I drove to a house party. The friends who I thought would be there were not there. I called them and they decided to stay in because of the cold. As I was leaving I noticed a freshman girl all alone and looking somewhat confused. Her girlfriend left her there alone. (It was still early, about 9pm and I hadn't drunk any alcohol and she appeared to be sober as well.) I asked her where she lived and when she named the dorm I told her she could not walk there because it was too far and too cold. I offered her a ride. She was not thrilled abould getting into my car. I gave her my driver's license. She wrote down my name and address (hometown). I gave her a ride to her dorm and watched until I saw her get inside safely. I went to my friends' place and hung out with them.

The next day on the news was a story about a college student who attempted to walk home from a party by walking across the Mississippi River. He could not climb up the river bank (he was intoxicated). He froze to death about 100 yards from my apartment. I did not know him. It was -28° that night.

That night I got a call from my mom. It turns out the freshman girl told her parents about me giving her a ride home. Her mom called information to find a telephone number for me. She ended up talking to my mom and thanking her for what I had done. My mom gave her my number and address. A few days later I got a nice card in the mail from that girl's mother.

Here's the real weird part of the story. That mom baked cookies and sent them to her daughter and after the weather warmed up, the girl and her roommate showed up at my door with a box of cookies. I even went out with the girl a few times, but while she was cute, she was really boring.

[Logical]

8. Great story but not a fan of the last sentence. nt

[Snobblevitch]

11. Well, it was pretty much mutual.

We didn't have anything in common. It's not like I broke her heart and dated her roommate.

I once dated the younger sister of my best friend's girlfriend. We found ourselves talking about her sister and my friend. We went out on a second date, and found ourselves still talking about them. We didn't go out a third time.

[smirkymonkey]

12. Yeah, I was really digging that story too until the last bit.

Just not necessary.

[Snobblevitch]

13. Oh come on...

We went out a few times and never really made a connection. We ran into each once in a while, and if she was with somebody I didn't know, she introduced me as her 'personal hero'. Then we'd have to tell the story about that night.

Part of the problem I had was that a kid died that night not far from my apartment. (The school is on the banks of the Mississippi.)

I found out later that her mom encouraged her to go out with me. Shit, a year later she introduced me to her mom and dad, but not as a boyfriend, just as a friend.

If I delete that post now, others will think I said something nasty about what happened in Wisconsin.

[vaberella]

17. Don't worry about it. I got the point of the posters by the comment.

But to be honest, you're overall story trumped that. I actually thought I was going to read that you guys got married or something. Which they wouldn't have found unnecessary but would have been in the same vein as the last line. I think they just saw it as derogatory. It's neither here nor there, it was a good story and your mum raised you well. High-Five to great moms.

[Snobblevitch]

19. My intentions were not to be derogatory towards that girl.

Our mothers ended up exchanging Christmas cards for several years. (Her mom was more bothered that we didn't get together than the girl was.)

[smirkymonkey]

18. No problem, we all have stories like that. Sometimes things just don't click

for whatever reason.

[HereSince1628]

9. You did a great thing.

[KingCharlemagne]

16. Agreed! - nt

[Archae]

14. According to channel 12 news in Milwaukee, all she had on was a tank top and shorts.

She was no doubt bombed, walked out in the cold and froze.

Tragic, I know.

A woman in Green Bay did about the same thing, froze to death outside a bar.

[Snobblevitch]

15. I just read a story that said she was dressed that way to attend a concert.

She apparently arrived at that house already intoxicated, got into an argument and stormed out. The people there assumed she had a ride. The guy that brought her there is at fault. (Her sweater was found nearby.)

What a sad way to die.

(The 22 year old niece of a former girlfriend of mine fell to her death off a balcony at an apartment building. (I remember going to the hospital to see the new baby girl in the family all those years ago.)