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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:33 PM Jan 2016

No, no, not Blue Tarp Man - Breaking: it appears it was Mr. Finicum

Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:35 AM - Edit history (2)

... say it isn't so.



I mean who else could it be?

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/lavoy-finicum-the-oregon-militant-beaneath-the-blue-tarp-killed-in-police-shootout-reports/

He died doing what he loved?

UPDATED AGAIN: Ritzheimer was arrested and charged with the same charges as the others conspiracy to impede a federal officer. He was in Arizona.

Goodbye video from the ranch from "defend your base" while "spy planes" circle above:

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No, no, not Blue Tarp Man - Breaking: it appears it was Mr. Finicum (Original Post) flamingdem Jan 2016 OP
Oh it couldn't be. Could it? nolabear Jan 2016 #1
I thought he was so hard to see... uriel1972 Jan 2016 #2
it could be jon "I swore an oath" demtenjeep Jan 2016 #3
Ritzheimer? Nah, that bird fancies himself a great leader Warpy Jan 2016 #12
yea just saw a tweet that somehow he was in AZ today demtenjeep Jan 2016 #24
Jon Ritzheimer surrendered ... so much for all his braggadocio. ebayfool Jan 2016 #27
What will the refuge do with all those dildoes? Use them as bird perches? Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #37
Donate 'em to the Republicans ... ebayfool Jan 2016 #53
Jon's Facebook page womanofthehills Jan 2016 #38
JESUS - he is more of a grifter than Palin! bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #45
Rogueinfidel, eh? 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #55
So from willing to take a bullet for his beliefs to surrendering and panhandling. ebayfool Jan 2016 #54
Dildo man skedaddled to Arizona when he saw the stragglers getting rounded up. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #87
No, Finicum's daughter said it was Finicum. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #52
So the nonsense is finally over? Arrestes and off the site? morningfog Jan 2016 #4
There are probably still others at the refuge. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #50
he was not a cartoon figure, regardless of the media focus... islandmkl Jan 2016 #5
Didn't he say 2naSalit Jan 2016 #6
Be warned: If you strike Tarp Man down, he will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine Downtown Hound Jan 2016 #7
Omg his Facebook page is too precious dorkzilla Jan 2016 #8
I like the trolling where since they misspell the state they are in as "organ"someone Person 2713 Jan 2016 #88
I love that there are SO MANY Constitutional scholars writing on his page dorkzilla Jan 2016 #90
Well it seems this is appropriate here nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #9
A favorite, now one for the history books flamingdem Jan 2016 #13
Until next Halloween womanofthehills Jan 2016 #44
Nobody outside his circle will remember him by October Orangepeel Jan 2016 #56
Too funny. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #60
RIP Tarpman Egnever Jan 2016 #10
I agree, Finicum walked the talk! flamingdem Jan 2016 #15
He was clinically insane or manic depressive. Mika Jan 2016 #31
Good point, the best news is that he didn't shoot anyone flamingdem Jan 2016 #33
He had his hands up, according to their clan Mika Jan 2016 #47
Apparently ammon called his wife from the backseat JesterCS Jan 2016 #64
You've got that. Mendocino Jan 2016 #75
Unconfirmed but it looks like it was Tarpman according to State Rep. Michele Fiore via Twitter flamingdem Jan 2016 #11
Is she the one who had the... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #57
He's going to become a martyr in the movement. octoberlib Jan 2016 #14
Maybe they'll walk into traffic, and we'll be rid of them jmowreader Jan 2016 #21
This would be my reaction: Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #34
Deluded tool n2doc Jan 2016 #16
Finicum was finnago. Snarkoleptic Jan 2016 #30
Is he FLDS? He is from Colorado city Arizona elehhhhna Jan 2016 #17
Good catch! octoberlib Jan 2016 #19
He was a frickin' nut job -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #18
Finicum fini? Scurrilous Jan 2016 #20
Finicum is finishedcum...maybe they'll bury him with that tarp (nt) TacoD Jan 2016 #22
will save quite a little bit to use that tarp instead of a casket 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #77
Long live Tarpman flamingdem Jan 2016 #23
... Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #36
Fiore (R nutjob-NV) claims he was shot with arms up Quiet_Dem_Mom Jan 2016 #25
I hope they have video flamingdem Jan 2016 #29
They'll have video. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #42
Don't believe it womanofthehills Jan 2016 #49
So lemme get this straight ... Whiskeytide Jan 2016 #65
oath man split demtenjeep Jan 2016 #26
These fellows suffer from lack of long range planning ability flamingdem Jan 2016 #28
Translation: He's going to set up another crowdfunding grift. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #35
Maybe he can put some of the sex toys up on ebay? Snarkoleptic Jan 2016 #43
They'd sell 'em for sure flamingdem Jan 2016 #51
How is Giant Pasty Fat Baby In A Diaper Man? Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #32
wtf? I am glad I missed that one. uppityperson Jan 2016 #39
Yeah. If you pitched this stuff as a comic movie, it would be rejected as "over the top." Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #41
The baseball pants were bad enough. 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #59
I guess we know why they kept asking for snacks. dorkzilla Jan 2016 #40
What is that!!?!11 flamingdem Jan 2016 #48
You'll never unburn that image from your brain. You're welcome. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #67
dafuq? KittyWampus Jan 2016 #85
He was so dedicated to small government SpartanDem Jan 2016 #46
A couple of zip ties through the grommet holes and voila NightWatcher Jan 2016 #61
11 Fo$ter children ? = 11 state care payments and free ranch helping hands ...the more I Person 2713 Jan 2016 #58
Which one has... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #62
From the linked article the deceased tarp has 11. Somewhere I read this is a thing with many of Person 2713 Jan 2016 #63
He was the asshole complaining about CPS pokerfan Jan 2016 #71
oh my god renate Jan 2016 #72
It's true... pokerfan Jan 2016 #74
Yeah I figured as much plus free ranch hands . Let me guess further homeschooled with most of Person 2713 Jan 2016 #82
Goodbye message from the ranch flamingdem Jan 2016 #66
Tarpman? pokerfan Jan 2016 #68
That's soo touching flamingdem Jan 2016 #69
Literally malaise Jan 2016 #86
Hey it's not like he was selling loose cigarettes or jay walking. JEB Jan 2016 #70
++1 Person 2713 Jan 2016 #84
Is this for real? Aerows Jan 2016 #73
Lavoy always said he didn't want to live in a concrete box flamingdem Jan 2016 #76
Oh my. Aerows Jan 2016 #78
He walked his talk flamingdem Jan 2016 #79
If there's one funeral you want the Westboro Baptist Church to picket. Bad Dog Jan 2016 #80
Would not surprise me at all if they were there. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #89
I wonder how long before there's a song out, montana_hazeleyes Jan 2016 #81
Wait! Breaking news! He just woke up in the morgue! He's alive!!! randome Jan 2016 #83

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
12. Ritzheimer? Nah, that bird fancies himself a great leader
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jan 2016

and it's unlikely he'll stick his nose out except under cover of darkness as he slinks away.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
27. Jon Ritzheimer surrendered ... so much for all his braggadocio.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jan 2016
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html#incart_maj-story-1

snip -

In Burns, Oregon State Police also arrested Joseph D. O'Shaughnessy, 45, Cottonwood, Arizona. He is known in militia circles as "Captain."

Several hours later, Jon Ritzheimer, 32, a key militant leader, surrendered to police in Arizona on the conspiracy charge. He gained national fame for complaining on a video about the delivery of sex toys to the refuge in response to the occupiers' plea for supplies.

Police also arrested Pete Santilli, an independent broadcaster known for his aggressive manner and live streaming refuge events. He also faces a conspiracy charge to impede federal officers.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
38. Jon's Facebook page
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jan 2016

In a video, he tells his girls, "Daddy has to go away again." They ask, "To Oregon again?" & Jon says no.....

He is begging for money:


"I came home to visit my family. The Feds know I am here and are asking me to turn myself in. I need an attorney so I can get back to my girls. Please help my family. Donations can be made at www.rogueinfidel.com to help with legal fees. Thank you all in advance. I just want the country to live by the Constitution and I just want the government to abide by it."

https://www.facebook.com/scrappyphx.rider

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
54. So from willing to take a bullet for his beliefs to surrendering and panhandling.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jan 2016

Next thing you know he's gonna demand the ACLU to represent him.

Yeah, he's some kinda fearsome!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
87. Dildo man skedaddled to Arizona when he saw the stragglers getting rounded up.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jan 2016

Apparently he is not as stupid as he looks.

Qutzupalotl

(14,302 posts)
50. There are probably still others at the refuge.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

The exact number was not known, but I think this is only about half the group.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
5. he was not a cartoon figure, regardless of the media focus...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jan 2016

he was a anti-government (of the people...all the people) extension of a part of America's past that felt like all the land was theirs for the taking...

if he wasn't dangerous, he was at least deluded...which made him dangerous in the end...

he claimed his choice...and it came to fruition...hopefully, but it's probably unlikely, he won't become the new wingnut martyr...

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
6. Didn't he say
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jan 2016

he wasn't going to be arrested?

Wonder if it is him, I thought of him first then I thought of the one who got pissed about the bag o' dicks.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
7. Be warned: If you strike Tarp Man down, he will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jan 2016

After he's finished that second six pack, mind you.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
88. I like the trolling where since they misspell the state they are in as "organ"someone
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

mentions that some good may have come out of this if he is an organ donor

This is on his second fb page because you know he is having trouble working with the inter tubes

https://www.facebook.com/cowboystand/?refid=52&_ft_=top_level_post_id.751739854958502%3Atl_objid.751739854958502&__tn__=%2As

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
90. I love that there are SO MANY Constitutional scholars writing on his page
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously, who gives these idiots their talking points? “Agenda 21”?

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
10. RIP Tarpman
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jan 2016

Guess you went out like you said you would....

Pretty stupid if you ask me but hey I guess at least you weren't all hat and no cattle.

My guess is the bundy bunch on the other hand were the first to hit the dirt with their hands above their heads.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
31. He was clinically insane or manic depressive.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jan 2016

Did you see the interview on Lawrence O's show?
I won't be cheering the death of this poor soul (irrespective of the idiocy of it all).
If he shot at them then I hope he missed and glad he didn't injure any others.





flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
33. Good point, the best news is that he didn't shoot anyone
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:16 AM
Jan 2016

I'm guessing they took him out because he wouldn't surrender his gun.

That's the way Finicum rolled. He really was a piece of work!

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
75. You've got that.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:39 AM
Jan 2016

Like the authorities would stick him in the back of a patrol car not handcuffed, and allow him a phone, moments after a fatal shootout.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
11. Unconfirmed but it looks like it was Tarpman according to State Rep. Michele Fiore via Twitter
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jan 2016

3 minutes ago

State Rep. Michele Fiore (R-Nevada) has identified LaVoy Finicum as the militant who has been reportedly killed. #Oregonstandoff

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
14. He's going to become a martyr in the movement.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jan 2016

"We're all Tarp Man now". They'll all start walking around with blue tarps over their heads.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
16. Deluded tool
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jan 2016

Really, he had it good, with his foster care labor pool. Then he had to mess it all up by listening to the Bundys and their idiotic friends. Clearly the man had mental problems.

Quiet_Dem_Mom

(599 posts)
25. Fiore (R nutjob-NV) claims he was shot with arms up
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jan 2016
https://twitter.com/VoteFiore/status/692189070554955776


My heart & prays go out to LaVoy Finicum's family he was just murdered with his hands up in Burns OR.Ryan Bundy has been shot in the arm

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
65. So lemme get this straight ...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jan 2016

... A political figure - running for congress - has openly and publicly - on Twitter no less - accused the FBI of murder when she has zero knowledge of what happened? Holy shit.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
26. oath man split
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jan 2016

Volkonski wrote:


Jon Ritzheimer added a new video.
3 mins ·
I need an attorney so I can get back to my girls. Please help my family.


Now he cares about his kids.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
28. These fellows suffer from lack of long range planning ability
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:09 AM
Jan 2016

.. though .. with all the nutters out there he'll probably raise a hundred grand or so.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
35. Translation: He's going to set up another crowdfunding grift.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jan 2016

He's a frequent flyer, but I think GoFundMe, which is scam artist central, is officially sick of his shit so he'll have to use a different panhandling platform.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
43. Maybe he can put some of the sex toys up on ebay?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:24 AM
Jan 2016

I mean, assuming they're new in box, of course. Perhaps he could sign them with a sharpie to create collector value.

"Lot 312 up for auction....17 butt plugs with Jon Ritzcracker autograph ca. 2016"

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
51. They'd sell 'em for sure
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jan 2016

I'm thinking the blue tarp could fetch quite a sum if packaged properly. Hard to get that one signed though.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
46. He was so dedicated to small government
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jan 2016

that he provided his own bodybag no sucking on the teet of big government for this guy.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
58. 11 Fo$ter children ? = 11 state care payments and free ranch helping hands ...the more I
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jan 2016

learn about these guys the less I care what happens to them.
Said he would rather die than leave guess he wasn't kidding and whoever he was shooting at wanted to live

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
63. From the linked article the deceased tarp has 11. Somewhere I read this is a thing with many of
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jan 2016

them, foster kids . But I do not have a link nor recall where I read it. Anyone?

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
71. He was the asshole complaining about CPS
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jan 2016

taking his four foster children away last week Said the money was most of his income.

“That was my main source of income,” Finicum said.
https://www.rt.com/usa/329381-militiaman-loses-foster-kids/

His income? That's just wrong on so many levels.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
74. It's true...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:32 AM
Jan 2016

Foster children can be a tremendous income source.

That was my main source of income,” Finicum said. “My ranch, well, the cows just cover the costs of the ranch. If this means rice and beans for the next few years, so be it. We’re going to stay the course.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471293/-Foster-children-removed-from-home-of-Oregon-militant-says-he-s-now-lost-his-main-source-of-income

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
82. Yeah I figured as much plus free ranch hands . Let me guess further homeschooled with most of
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

the time spent " learning " ranching.
Notice it has been 50 boys they have fo$tered over the years. No girls the boys are farm hands hope they at least feed them.
The op link said 11 but you article mentions 8 at a time , Catholic Church doesn't itemize anymore it said . He mentions 4 maybe the last 4 removed ....GOOD!
Bet his widow takes in a bunch more now that he is dead to run the farm for her. They are mad slavery is illegal but they found a way around it with under 18 in need of a home . Bet they indoctrinated all 50 in their anti fed RW BS too

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
76. Lavoy always said he didn't want to live in a concrete box
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:45 AM
Jan 2016

I suspect he held onto his rifle and perhaps even aimed it at a law officer during the arrest thus Lavoy is no more.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
80. If there's one funeral you want the Westboro Baptist Church to picket.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:33 AM
Jan 2016

It's his, could turn into quite a good ruck.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
83. Wait! Breaking news! He just woke up in the morgue! He's alive!!!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jan 2016

Come on, let's keep the legend going. Say, he switched clothes and IDs with one of the other bunch so he could escape into the woods and wander the world as a vengeful, blue bigfoot!

Tarpman versus Slenderman! The stories just write themselves!
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