Anyone know how long the armed insurrectionists could go to prison for?

[boomer55]

[morningfog]

1. Just thinking of the cuff, they are facing decades.

The conspiracy charge can connect then to everything. There is threat, assault with intent to kill, attempted murder, insurrsction, treason, likely terrorism charges, theft, this list is long enough that the DOJ can just pick and choose until the time adds up to, essentially, the rest of their lives.

[phantom power]

2. Depends on how many charges they ultimately have against them.

So far the only charge I've heard is conspiracy to interfere with public officials, via threat of violence.

I hope they also get charged for the damage they did to Malheur.

[KentuckyWoman]

3. I predict probation and fines

All they really did was break into a national park building, camp without a permit, use government property without authorization. Rumor has it they also damaged archaeological sites.

All of these are fines not prison I'm pretty sure.

Now, when they refuse to pay the fines or follow the requirements of probation... then they might do prison. They'll have crack lawyers though so don't expect much in the way of compensation to taxpayers for the expenses during this.

[daleanime]

5. No mention of the willingness....

to do armed violence?

[Laurian]

6. What about the threats and intimidation?

[sinkingfeeling]

12. I seem to recall some peace protesters cut a fence around a

Missile silo and got years of prison time.

[catnhatnh]

13. I believe you are mistaken...

if the government chooses they could face sentences of hundreds of years...

[rollin74]

15. Feds don't really do probation.

the offense they're currently charged with carries a possible sentence of up to 6 years

[daleanime]

4. What I'm wondering is.....

will they all face jail, or is it just a few of them?

[backscatter712]

7. If the feds wanted to, they can give 'em life sentences. But they won't.

If the feds really wanted to put the screws on, they'd be charged with seditious conspiracy, multiple charges of terrorism-related violence and threats, property damage, computer hacking, and felony murder.

But no, they're getting only one felony each. And that'll get pled down to a slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanor in a few months once the media's off obsessing over some other shiny object.

[Katashi_itto]

10. I disagree. The felony charge was a stopgap to assemble more charges.

[dembotoz]

8. difference of charged with vs pled to

in the beginning the book will be thrown at them if for no other reason than if
they coddle these folks than minority populations really do have grounds for open revolt.

in the end???

a felony or 2 on paper, six months in lock up, stiff fine, time off for time served. long court supervision

not so long as to make them a martyr of the nut jobs, but not so short as to become an election issue in urban areas

[Orrex]

9. Each will be paid a stipend of $250,000 and asked not to do it again

[Egnever]

11. I heard somewhere yesterday the charges carried a maximum sentence of 6 years

Not sure that is right but I remember hearing it.

[Jesus Malverde]

16. I heard 5

But is sounds about right.

[catnhatnh]

14. Remember all those meetings with police and the FBI???

Because each of those could be considered a separate violation of that law...(US Title18 sec 372)

[csziggy]

17. Add to that all the damage they did to the wildlife refuge

On the live feed yesterday they were digging trenches, using refuge equipment. They built a frigging road through an archaeological site and rummaged through boxes of artifacts. They broke into computers at the refuge, accessed personnel records.

Each and every one of those events is another possible count against the idiots. Not only did they do the deeds, they bragged about them, often distributed video of doing it or allowed news to take video. I don't think the feds will have any problem proving dozens of counts against all these morons.

[boomer55]

18. thanks all.