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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:42 PM Jan 2016

Venezuela is on the brink of a complete economic collapse

Venezuela is on the brink of a complete economic collapse

The only question now is whether Venezuela's government or economy will completely collapse first.

The key word there is "completely." Both are well into their death throes. Indeed, Venezuela's ruling party just lost congressional elections that gave the opposition a veto-proof majority, and it's hard to see that getting any better for them any time soon — or ever. Incumbents, after all, don't tend to do too well when, according to the International Monetary Fund, their economy shrinks 10 percent one year, an additional 6 percent the next, and inflation explodes to 720 percent. It's no wonder, then, that markets expect Venezuela to default on its debt in the very near future. The country is basically bankrupt.

That's not an easy thing to do when you have the largest oil reserves in the world, but Venezuela has managed it. How? Well, a combination of bad luck and worse policies. The first step was when Hugo Chávez's socialist government started spending more money on the poor, with everything from two-cent gasoline to free housing. Now, there's nothing wrong with that — in fact, it's a good idea in general — but only as long as you actually, well, have the money to spend. And by 2005 or so, Venezuela didn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/29/venezuela-is-on-the-brink-of-a-complete-collapse/
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Venezuela is on the brink of a complete economic collapse (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 OP
I think Russia is in the same boat...or close to it. n/t Lodestar Jan 2016 #1
Russia is also very petrol-centric but they do have other industries. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #3
exactly; Russia has 11 time zones of natural resources Flaxbee Jan 2016 #6
Why would you think that? Flaxbee Jan 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Bucky Jan 2016 #2
One part low oil prices, one part corruption, one part economic warfare. hunter Jan 2016 #4
They voted in the corruption NobodyHere Jan 2016 #7
So do we, so do we... hunter Jan 2016 #8
That's true. We get what we vote for. NobodyHere Jan 2016 #10
And often we get what we didn't vote for. hunter Jan 2016 #12
Close, but not quite FBaggins Feb 2016 #13
Anyone who loaned money to Venezuela deserves the default Yupster Jan 2016 #9
I think they tried to change things without enough planning Marrah_G Jan 2016 #11

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. Russia is also very petrol-centric but they do have other industries.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

I totally understand VZ's intent to provide for the poor but they would have done it better had they had spent the money in an effort to diversify the economy rather than just spending money.

We keep hearing so much on worker-owner factories and industries but the government failed to make those ideas a reality.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
6. exactly; Russia has 11 time zones of natural resources
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jan 2016

that Russia knows how to utilize, and Putin, whatever you think of him, is not a bombastic blowhard. Chavez's ideas of providing for the poor were excellent but the implementation was not the best.

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

hunter

(38,310 posts)
4. One part low oil prices, one part corruption, one part economic warfare.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jan 2016

The average person in Venezuela doesn't deserve any of it.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
13. Close, but not quite
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:33 AM
Feb 2016

Ten parts oil prices, eight parts corruption, fifteen parts incompetence at the highest levels, and one part economic warfare.

Stir... stand back... watch implosion

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
9. Anyone who loaned money to Venezuela deserves the default
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

They couldn't see this coming the last five years?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
11. I think they tried to change things without enough planning
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jan 2016

I hope they can manage to fix this and have a thriving democratic socialist nation.

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