Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:38 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
Can someone explain to me what matters?This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by GP6971 (a host of the General Discussion forum). My faith in a lot has been shaken tonight, and I don't know what to do from here. To be honest, I'd love to parley with a Clinton supporter who isn't full of snark; which is probably really out there of someone like me to ask, but... How the hell do you do it? In all sincerity, how does one reconcile that kind of internal schism?
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VulgarPoet | Jan 2016 | OP |
elleng | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
Jarqui | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
grasswire | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
Kelvin Mace | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
Kelvin Mace | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
GP6971 | Jan 2016 | #7 |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:42 PM
elleng (104,645 posts)
1. Consider the 'other' candidate.
Martin O'Malley:
1. Ended death penalty in Maryland 2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking. 3. Provided health insurance for 380,000 4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low. 5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger. 6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers. 7. Supporter the Dream Act 8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich). 9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive. 10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure. Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues. Article here: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk O'Malley's Plans Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:27 PM - Edit history (9) This discussion thread is pinned. 15 Goals to Rebuild the American Dream https://martinomalley.com/category/15-goals/ Addiction treatment and prevention https://martinomalley.com/policy/addiction-treatment-and-prevention/ Criminal Justice Reform https://martinomalley.com/policy/criminal-justice/ Making College Debt Free for all Americans https://martinomalley.com/policy/make-college-debt-free/ Holding Wall Street Accountable https://14d2r744okfe40r1ug1oqm6y-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/OMalley-Wall-Street-Reform.pdf Expanding Social Security https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/ Homeland Security https://martinomalley.com/vision/homeland-security/ Immigration https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/immigration/ National Service https://martinomalley.com/national-service/ Environment https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/ https://martinomalley.com/climate/ https://martinomalley.com/climate/agenda/ Foreign Policy https://martinomalley.com/policy/truman-national-security/ Gun Reform https://martinomalley.com/policy/preventing-and-reducing-gun-violence/ Trade Policy https://martinomalley.com/policy/trade-policy/ Campaign Finance Reform (Restoring our American Democracy) https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/restoring-our-american-democracy/ Why We Need a Constitutional Amendment to Secure the Right to Vote: https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/news/right-to-vote/ Veterans and Military Families https://martinomalley.com/policy/veterans/ |
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jarqui (7,874 posts)
2. You're doing the right thing - trying to get input
How about you look on the Clinton board and pick a poster or two whose posts you like and send them a personal message? Try to have a private chat with them.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:51 PM
grasswire (50,130 posts)
3. You trust the most honest one....the one that has consistently been honest...
...and UNBOUGHT by special interests.
That's my take. |
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:07 PM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
4. No candidate is perfect, and no one ever gets perfect choices. We vote for humans not Gods.
Look at the candidates and decide which is the best and vote. There will be another election for Congress ins 2 years and for the White House in Four. If your candidate doesn't meet with your expectations, vote for someone else next time.
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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:43 PM
Kelvin Mace (17,469 posts)
6. I have no problem in the primary,
the differences are night day. In the general, if the wrong candidate wins the primary, it is a "lesser or two evils" problems not a "which is best". The problem between the lesser of two evils means you are still picking evil, and that has a moral consequence that too many here dismiss as inconsequential.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:41 PM
Kelvin Mace (17,469 posts)
5. I have been in this quandry for a while
but am sticking to my convictions, which simply enrages some people.
I have had a conversation with a number of other Dems who cannot understand my refusal to be "pragmatic", but there are just some VERY bright lines you do not cross. |
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:56 PM
GP6971 (19,174 posts)
7. Unfortunately, we have to lock
Please repost in the correct forum, GDP.
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