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Stinky The Clown

(67,761 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:08 PM Jan 2016

Is Ben Carson a savant?

He was a truly capable (dare I say great) pediatric neurosurgeon. But he's little more than a fucking idiot when it comes to politics. He's really delusional about a whole lot of governmental facts, issues, procedures, traditions, and even history.

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Gman

(24,780 posts)
5. That happens to the best of surgeons in general
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:19 PM
Jan 2016

Not defending him as a candidate. Just those things in and of themselves don't make him a dumb ass

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
14. OK I did more reading. My bad.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jan 2016

Treated like a god at Hopkins. Lead to hubris. Then people who admired him became aware of his goofy ideas for the first time, along with the rest of us.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
13. While I think Carson is just an idiot, neurosurgery is prone to bad outcomes.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

It's delicate work and many, many cases are last ditch attempts

Gman

(24,780 posts)
4. That has crossed my mind before
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

He really is a gifted person in several ways. But he has no grasp of other things. That's characteristics of a savant. He may even be somewhere on the autism spectrum disorder. Im not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying its remarkable that's he functions as he does.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
7. Something isn't right.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jan 2016

He always looks down or away or rolls his eyes.
ADHD probably along with some type of autism.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
6. Most of U.S. politicians are grifter-savants.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jan 2016

They're dumber than a pile of shit in all fields but hoodwinking voters and prostituting themselves to billionaires.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
8. Intelligence comes in many forms.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

I could no more accomplish what Ben Carson has achieved as a physician than I could fly to the moon in a paper cup.

But most children I have met have a better grasp of the basic realities of our world than this man.

Brilliance in one area is apparently no guarantee of even basic competence in others.



BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
10. That's the answer. This fact leads to a great danger too.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

People who are narrowly gifted like Carson tend to believe their intelligence extends into all areas. They think themselves infallible. So, they think they know best for everyone else in every sphere of life and never doubt their beliefs.

The other facet of this is that many other people are so in awe of that person's success in one area that they falsely extrapolate that intelligence to other areas--especially if it confirms their pre-existing biases.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
9. You don't have to be brilliant to be a surgeon. You have to have a big enough
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

ego to cut into people, and a steady hand.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
11. Getting a medical degree requires a good deal of intelligence.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jan 2016

But it is a narrow type of intelligence. Primarily, you have to be able to memorize a huge amount of material in a short amount of time.

Having a good memory, however, doesn't make one a particularly deep thinker.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. I know people hate republicans wiht a passion, but this sugestion is well,. insulting to actual
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

real Savants. Now if you want to be scared, the level of political knowledge for Dr Carson is well average, or actually above average, he is running, than the average american.

Jesus, some of these things are real well insulting. Not surprising, but insulting.

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