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drm604
(16,230 posts)But someone needs to point out to him the contradictions in his thinking.
He's probably been raised to think that conservative = upright, moral, Christian, etc., and liberal = immoral, elitist, disdainful of people like himself, etc.
He's trying to rationalize the disconnect between his unfortunate dependence and his conservatism by blaming his dependence on liberals.
Marr
(20,317 posts)I don't see why a physical disability should make someone's comments instantly worthy of respectful consideration. His position is self-contradictory and almost too idiotic to even address.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The guy is way too stupid to vote.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)Person 2713
(3,263 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)(Bazarro world)
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Or will Cruz cuts to or elimination of his public assistance finally inspire him to find a job he can perform - inspiration he clearly lacks while accepting public assistance now?
I don't know if people like Mr. Kolb are simply brainwashed or if they are genuinely stupid.
treestar
(82,383 posts)but maybe cannot do it due to disability? Very contradictory.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)He was on food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, etc, and his family didn't starve. Now he's a Cruz guy and he's embarrassed that he was on assistance. I told him he's a hypocrite and full of self-hatred. I told him he's ok that he got assistance but doesn't want anyone else to have it. He also believes Reagan was some kind of god that inherited a "much worse economy than Obama" and his policies saved the world. He actually showed me his tax figures and said he was better off working less because his net income would be the same if he made $71,000 a year or $50,000 a year. Something about a $6,000 government benefit he got that would disappear if he made more. It makes my head hurt to talk to him. Fundie, also. Hates the gays and immigrants.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)who are incapable of rising to become members of the bourgeoisie but also incapable of developing even a rudimentary class consciousness. IOW, unreachable and a waste of your time and effort.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)the ultra conservatives would get more fully in power and cut this guy, and everyone else who is on public assistance, off. Because starving in the streets is so much more dignified.
And no, I don't really want him or anyone else starving in the streets, but Jesus H Christ!
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)his "whole life" would have been a whole lot nastier, more brutal and shorter.
old guy
(3,283 posts)If he feels this strongly about this issue, he should turn down the help and go it alone, like any good repub should.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)It's like the old teabaggers with their signs "Keep Government Hands Off My Medicare."
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)It has to be a joke because no one can be this dumb.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat
dmr
(28,347 posts)There are plenty of pious people who instill that on all of us. They make judgements without facts. The shame is on them.
There's also the embarrassment not being able to provide for oneself or their family.
But these benefits are there for a reason. It is for Americans just like him.
I want my tax dollars to help him. I don't want him to suffer. Being ill, and having to live with its limitations is enough for one human. If my tax dollars ease his quality of life in any way, that's a good thing.
I would hope good, salt of the earth Americans would agree.
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)I read all the rest and if these people get to decide who runs the country we are doomed. There are an astonishing number of teachers interviewed who seem to be going Trump or Cruz, including one who wants to get rid of the Department of Education. The Paul supporters seem the most sane:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html?mid=twitter_nymag
Aerows
(39,961 posts)All about personal responsibility, loves Cruz.
He and his girlfriend are not married, because were she to marry him, they would lose their public assistance, (they have two kids), food stamps and housing allotment.
They own a business for heaven's sake. He lives with her. But, boy is he all about personal responsibility for everybody else!
NickB79
(19,233 posts)It sounds like the original sin bullshit I was raised with as a kid going to a Catholic church.
Hate yourself for something entirely out of your control, and beg for forgiveness for something you didn't do.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)I went to a Sunday school class when I was a kid, and the teacher told us people born with disabilities were that way because of demon possession as some sort of punishment.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)40% on assistance don't even realize it, and either think they were "born on third base and hit a triple" and think they can do even better without taxes and regulations (suburbia's full of these types--also the PQ) or they're snowjobbed into thinking that they're being sponged off by the big cities (Duck Dynasty's comments in Louisiana)
and of course they're set up to feel immensely guilty and to hate anyone on the dole, so they compensate psychologically by hating "welfare queens" even harder and more loudly, and pretending that theirs is a special circumstance, or "forgetting" where their money comes from
that's another big shift the campaign's bringing--reveal rather than conceal what Washington's doing for you: take Amtrak (please!): the GOP always screams to the rafters that it's not profitable (while pilfering from even the Fed to pay for freeways) and that it's breaking the bank--but the least-profitable parts are the transcons (because the trains run longer, meaning more overhead) and you can't touch a single stop because states with Red Senators have little enough infrastructure as it is and the voters depend on Amtrak: they want more service each way, they want trains TX-CO, TX-IL, they want the Desert Wind, the Pioneer, the Hiawatha, the Gulf Breeze, the Hawkeye--touch Amtrak and there's gonna be 48 of the rightiest rightists demanding the Acela riders pay for their commuters
this is like Cruz and his "Federal aid for TX only!" attitude (also lets them take credit and efface Washington's involvement, that it's just their state's due, some people paid by a mysterious source cleaning up your area)
if they admit that the government is helping them out, then they're outing themselves as the "taker states" they scream about so much, just as how poor whites are the biggest number of welfare cases
the end of such mushroom politics is ending, where pols flatter and fascitize their voters by reversing reality
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in addition to his physical disabilities.
renate
(13,776 posts)No judgment--there's nothing morally superior about being of above-average intelligence, it's just good luck--but just sayin'.
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Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)receipt of public assistance, typically 5 years. And indeed, there are work requirements that are tied to assistance, typically recipients are required to be employed at least part time.
These people are full of shit!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)rurallib
(62,406 posts)by federal, state and local governments. They were often found jobs that they could do that wouldn't strain them yet would contribute.
My wife had a brain bleed during birth of our youngest. She continued to work at her job for 15 years though some of the duties were changed slightly to accommodate her handicap.
Then BAM! new rules based on efficiencies etc. and in a month she was home doing nothing, collecting disability and feeling like yesterday's garbage thrown out and useless.
Whn I was young I remember my dad and his frequent trips to the state run liquor store. All the guys (all men back then) were disabled, many from the war. they were slow, sometimes cantankerous, but they all had the dignity of a job.
Now we can't do such things because we have to cut taxes for the rich.
Sounds to me like that guy wants to contribute and have the dignity of a job where he is needed by society.
newblewtoo
(667 posts)number of long term disabled who feel this way over the course of my several careers. I emphasize that the key seems to be disabled as opposed to those down on their luck due to divorce or layoff. Most feel that the system inhibits them from doing more on their own (which in some cases may have been true) but it is mostly wishful thinking. They all want to be independent and seem to rationalize that if the 'case worker' or whomever would only get out of their way they could make it. This has been true for both the mentally and physically challenged I have known and worked with over the years. Both classes are among the most loyal employee.
I will see a large number of disabled at the polls shortly. There is a group home in our ward which brings a couple van loads to vote. And yes, it does make some people noticeably uncomfortable when they are there voting.
Johonny
(20,836 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)And when the state does it, we should be reminded of how ashamed we are that goodwill exists even at that level.
I sometimes get so depressed for GOPers and their inability to connect the world's dots. That kind of existence is sad in so many different ways.
Takket
(21,563 posts)an end to all public assistance, meaning he would have nothing at all, and be starving to death in the gutter?
Yeah, keep waiting for the "hand up." I'm sure its coming real soon.