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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:03 AM Feb 2016

US Map compares education levels with other countries state by state - The Sad State of Education

What Happens When Each State Is Renamed According to Its Education Level



Americans like to think they are #1 in everything, but when it comes to education, the U.S. quickly loses boasting rights. Math and science are particularly rough: U.S. ranks 28th in the world for those subjects. Although we may be a developed nation, when education is broken down by state, we aren't all that different from countries that are more economically challenged.

HomeSnacks.com used information from the U.S. high school graduation rates from the U.S. Census and compared them against the education index of each country from the United Nations Development Program.

The result? A map of the U.S. with each state renamed as the country that resembles their level of education.

http://www.attn.com/stories/5631/us-map-compares-states-to-countries-by-education-level?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=internal

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US Map compares education levels with other countries state by state - The Sad State of Education (Original Post) liberal N proud Feb 2016 OP
yay, my educational back ground is compared to Canada - hollysmom Feb 2016 #1
Totally meaningless and idiotic map oberliner Feb 2016 #2
courtesy Bill Gates or RW Privatization propaganda machines WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #3
Putting country names on states doesn't mean anything oberliner Feb 2016 #4
Lable by SES and you'll get a completely different WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #5
Good show. caduceus111 Feb 2016 #9
I agree A Little Weird Feb 2016 #6
here you go hollysmom Feb 2016 #8
That is useful for comparing between states A Little Weird Feb 2016 #13
YOU can parse these thingsa million different ways but eventually it will just come down to results hollysmom Feb 2016 #14
Comparative analysis of American education, SES explain why this map is bogus WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #7
Sorry but I saw an image on the internet NobodyHere Feb 2016 #10
No worries. 95% of Americans accept this meme as fact WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #11
Figures, TX and Turkey. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #12
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
3. courtesy Bill Gates or RW Privatization propaganda machines
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:27 AM
Feb 2016

Public school neglect and decomposition is the product of "starve the beast" policies. The Republicans want ever public and social program to fail so they can privatize. Gates just doesn't want to pay for American workers, so he blasts education and imports cheap labor.

Education is a function of SES.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Putting country names on states doesn't mean anything
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:35 AM
Feb 2016

I do not think this map is the way to communicate the significant problems in the public school system.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
5. Lable by SES and you'll get a completely different
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

...picture completely different picture of American education.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
6. I agree
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:45 AM
Feb 2016

This is terrible. It would have been far more effective to put a numerical value. As it is, there is nothing to compare. I don't know anything about educational levels of Kyrgyzstan for example - is being compared to them a good thing or a bad thing? A numeric rank would actually let you compare.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
13. That is useful for comparing between states
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:24 AM
Feb 2016

But what I meant was a map of the states with a numeric ranking of where they would fall if they were countries instead of states. For example, Nevada is labelled with "Ghana" which tells me nothing. If it said 138th because it is most like Ghana which is ranked 138th then that would be a little bit more useful.


Edit to add - I have doubts about making comparison to other countries anyway. How do you really compare a U.S. state which may be poor relative to other U.S. states to a country still dealing with issues of basic sanitation and low life expectancy. I just don't really believe the methodology makes sense.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
14. YOU can parse these thingsa million different ways but eventually it will just come down to results
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:44 AM
Feb 2016

rich and poor will be compared, but that was the thrust of the article, schools that had more money did better - a kind of a duh thing, but still better to have in writing. There might have been a page between I didn't bring here taht explained that.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
7. Comparative analysis of American education, SES explain why this map is bogus
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:49 AM
Feb 2016

Because not only educational effectiveness but also countries’ social class composition changes over time, comparisons of test score trends over time by social class group provide more useful information to policymakers than comparisons of total average test scores at one point in time or even of changes in total average test scores over time.

http://www.epi.org/publication/us-student-performance-testing/

There are dozens of studies that blow up this myth.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
11. No worries. 95% of Americans accept this meme as fact
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:05 AM
Feb 2016

More people have to stamp it out and expose it for what it is. Propaganda.

Thank you for posting it.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
12. Figures, TX and Turkey.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

Fitting in more ways than one.

4 years ago the official TX Republican platform stated they were against the teaching of critical thinking in our schools because it was a liberal plot.
Even more scary. Out of our last 3 governors, George is the smart one.

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