Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:21 PM
ellenrr (3,862 posts)
Is anyone here familiar with NVC- Non-violent Communication? a method
developed by Marshall Rosenberg that is sup'd to help people communicate better.
It may be an excellent method, but someone is using it on me, and I wonder... if she has the right idea bec. I do not find it enhances communication. would be interested to hear from anyone who is familiar with this. thanks.
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ellenrr | Feb 2016 | OP |
Brickbat | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
ellenrr | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
laundry_queen | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
ellenrr | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
PuraVidaDreamin | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
ellenrr | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
meaculpa2011 | Feb 2016 | #6 |
Response to ellenrr (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:32 PM
Brickbat (19,339 posts)
1. It's not an evidence-based model. Is this a friend, co-worker, boss?
Response to Brickbat (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:50 PM
ellenrr (3,862 posts)
2. what do you mean by evidence-based model? give an example pls of something
that is evidence-based
Do you mean the way physics for ex is evidence-based? In the field of human relationships I can't think of anything that could be called 'evidence-based" the way science is. but perhaps you are thinking of things that are. |
Response to ellenrr (Original post)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:03 PM
laundry_queen (8,646 posts)
3. Not super familiar
I did use it with my kids when they were younger. I think it's appropriate for toddlers and maybe ages 4-8 but not much older.
I find when people use it on me, because I can recognize it, I instantly feel manipulated or feel like that person isn't being authentic with me. Often the person comes off as totally condescending to others around too....especially at work. I don't use it with my kids now, as they are older and it feels forced. I find with most people as long as you validate their feelings, that's what's important. Listen and validate, no need to follow a formula, IMO. |
Response to laundry_queen (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:56 AM
ellenrr (3,862 posts)
4. totally agree with you. I also find it feels forced, rote, and inauthentic...
It is sup'd to foster empathy, but in some cases it can do just the opposite.
I think empathy comes from the person, it is a character trait, it can not be adopted as a formula. nvc implies that if I say. "...." then that is being empathetic. but it isn't. I also felt manipulated by my friend and condescended to. my idea is that nvc attracts people who are insecure, it gives them a group to belong to, and they can feel superior to the rest of us. I actually found that in words stated on the site of someone who id promoting nvc. People who do not do nvc are "less skilled" in communicating. ! yeah right. that's why my friend who does nvc has no friends in the world except me, and that is not going very well. this is a quote from a critic of nvc, which I totally agree with: Soft words couched with violence are harder to identify, especially when the person uttering them is convinced that their language is not violent. |
Response to ellenrr (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:10 AM
PuraVidaDreamin (3,799 posts)
5. If you rephrase/ paraphrase correctly it could work
I think tone of voice used in rephrasing is important too.
For example " did you just say......." Probably not good But " could you help me understand, I think what I heard you say is......." A lot better Unless you are talking with an aggressive insecure type- or a straight out bully ( probably the same thing) |
Response to PuraVidaDreamin (Reply #5)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:02 AM
ellenrr (3,862 posts)
7. I agree. Re-phrasing is fine and useful to make sure you got the
other person's meaning.
But I don't think most of us need to read a book or take a seminar to realize that. If I am unsure of someone's meaning, then I should ask. but in nvc - at least as practiced by my friend - she would parrot back to me what I said - which I found not only useless, but extremely annoying. ex. me: 'I feel blue bec I had an argument with my co-worker.' response: 'I hear you say you feel blue bec you had an argument with your co-worker.' period. I think good communication involves listening, but also asking questions, and offering feed-back. so one might respond, 'what was the argument about?' or 'I imagine that can be disturbing'. |
Response to ellenrr (Original post)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:16 AM
meaculpa2011 (918 posts)
6. Non-Violent Communication 101...
Bad example: "I'm gonna strangle you!" NVC example: "Would you like to jump off a bridge with a noose tied around your neck while I tie the other end to the railing?" |