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Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:48 PM

 

WTF is this crap?


Who thought this was a good idea?

Why, on God's green planet is this going on?

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jberryhill Feb 2016 OP
In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #1
warrprayer Feb 2016 #9
In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #21
warrprayer Feb 2016 #25
hfojvt Feb 2016 #47
In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #48
warrprayer Feb 2016 #2
jberryhill Feb 2016 #7
elleng Feb 2016 #3
whathehell Feb 2016 #4
babylonsister Feb 2016 #5
MineralMan Feb 2016 #6
merrily Feb 2016 #8
jberryhill Feb 2016 #13
merrily Feb 2016 #16
jberryhill Feb 2016 #38
merrily Feb 2016 #41
ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #70
jberryhill Feb 2016 #90
RandiFan1290 Feb 2016 #10
guillaumeb Feb 2016 #11
merrily Feb 2016 #42
guillaumeb Feb 2016 #59
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #49
guillaumeb Feb 2016 #58
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #80
hifiguy Feb 2016 #95
IADEMO2004 Feb 2016 #12
merrily Feb 2016 #31
truebluegreen Feb 2016 #45
merrily Feb 2016 #46
truebluegreen Feb 2016 #83
merrily Feb 2016 #84
truebluegreen Feb 2016 #86
csziggy Feb 2016 #14
jberryhill Feb 2016 #17
csziggy Feb 2016 #24
jberryhill Feb 2016 #27
csziggy Feb 2016 #29
jberryhill Feb 2016 #92
csziggy Feb 2016 #93
jberryhill Feb 2016 #97
csziggy Feb 2016 #100
Skittles Feb 2016 #15
Trajan Feb 2016 #19
jberryhill Feb 2016 #68
pintobean Feb 2016 #18
Go Vols Feb 2016 #54
BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #20
TeeYiYi Feb 2016 #26
steve2470 Feb 2016 #32
Kaleva Feb 2016 #39
2naSalit Feb 2016 #50
deutsey Feb 2016 #22
KansDem Feb 2016 #35
deutsey Feb 2016 #57
KansDem Feb 2016 #78
Solly Mack Feb 2016 #23
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #28
Glamrock Feb 2016 #30
grasswire Feb 2016 #33
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #34
warrprayer Feb 2016 #36
Dr. Strange Feb 2016 #37
Iggo Feb 2016 #69
Dr. Strange Feb 2016 #106
livetohike Feb 2016 #101
Dr. Strange Feb 2016 #107
livetohike Feb 2016 #108
JHB Feb 2016 #40
Thor_MN Feb 2016 #43
jberryhill Feb 2016 #44
CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #51
NBachers Feb 2016 #52
jberryhill Feb 2016 #55
Initech Feb 2016 #53
Rex Feb 2016 #56
KamaAina Feb 2016 #60
jberryhill Feb 2016 #61
KamaAina Feb 2016 #62
KamaAina Feb 2016 #63
lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #64
jberryhill Feb 2016 #66
lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #67
Dr. Strange Feb 2016 #109
lunatica Feb 2016 #65
madinmaryland Feb 2016 #71
0rganism Feb 2016 #72
TBF Feb 2016 #73
hifiguy Feb 2016 #74
KamaAina Feb 2016 #75
hifiguy Feb 2016 #77
KamaAina Feb 2016 #79
hifiguy Feb 2016 #81
jberryhill Feb 2016 #99
KatyMan Feb 2016 #76
Whiskeytide Feb 2016 #82
drm604 Feb 2016 #85
madinmaryland Feb 2016 #87
livetohike Feb 2016 #102
OriginalGeek Feb 2016 #88
jberryhill Feb 2016 #89
OriginalGeek Feb 2016 #91
hifiguy Feb 2016 #94
Iggo Feb 2016 #96
jberryhill Feb 2016 #98
Lint Head Feb 2016 #103
islandmkl Feb 2016 #104
Fumesucker Feb 2016 #105
NBachers Feb 2016 #110
raouldukelives Feb 2016 #111

Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:49 PM

1. Huh?

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

9. We've got

To stop meeting like this.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:55 PM

21. Seriously ... Maybe I'm in real trouble here.

Are you following me around?


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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:57 PM

25. Judging from the timestamps

Last edited Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

We just had synchronicity.
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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:23 PM

47. something to do with this, perhaps

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #47)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:36 PM

48. Very interesting choice of words.

lovefest ... ... ... but they called it the right name.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:49 PM

2. WTF? Indeed!

How is this even possible?

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

7. That's a good question too

 


I mean, really?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:49 PM

3. Tell us to what/which crap you refer, jberryhilll,

and we will do our best to solve the mystery for you.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

4. What are you talking about?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

5. I agree! nt

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

6. Hard to say, really.

But crap is crap...

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:50 PM

8. Whatever is going on, I demand it stop immediately and the perps be rounded up before dawn.

Because fsck that shet.

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Response to merrily (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:52 PM

13. How long is it going to go on?

 


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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:53 PM

16. Um, my post specified an outside time limit. Are you being deliberately obtuse, just to tick me off?

Again?

Now, I demand you stop, too.

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Response to merrily (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:13 PM

38. No, ticking you off is a bonus

 


Collateral damage, if you will

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #38)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:15 PM

41. LOL!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:15 PM

70. 17 Months, 11 Days, 9 Hours and 47 Minutes

Hope that clears things up.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #70)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:18 PM

90. The worst part was that I had it on TiVo and didn't realize I could just skip through it

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:51 PM

10. †

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:51 PM

11. I should probably alert on this.

Once I decide what exactly has offended me.

Any significance to the "red" cow? Is that alertable?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:17 PM

42. If it's a Red Bull, it could be advertising spam. Not sure about a red cow.

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Response to merrily (Reply #42)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:46 PM

59. When I was young, my mother cooked Spam.

I am not sure which was the worse, the salt or the taste.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:47 PM

49. the red cow is an Illuminati plot

or Zionist plot, I can never keep them straight
( serioulsy, google "red cow"

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #49)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:44 PM

58. So, is it a heifer or a bull?

Much excitement has been generated by the arrival of a "Red Heifer"1 in Israel. The birth of a red heifer (cow) on a farm in the religious youth village of Kfar Hasidim (near Haifa) has excited sectors in the Israeli religious community.


http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/15/

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #58)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:06 PM

80. Isn't that a hoot?

Hmmmm. the article refers to "the coming year of 1999" so I wonder if all was well then.

I have read recently that farmers in Israel are trying to breed a "spotless" red cow herd..the color is quite rare.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #49)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:31 PM

95. Nope. It's Project X.

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:51 PM

12. It's Leap Year. What did you expect?

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Response to IADEMO2004 (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:02 PM

31. Excellent point. Someone should make sure primary season never falls during Leap Year.

It's silliness squared.

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Response to merrily (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:51 PM

45. fwiw, primary season always falls during Leap Year...

 

as if primary season wasn't long enough already.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:55 PM

46. Thanks. I tried to reply in the spirit of the thread.

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Response to merrily (Reply #46)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:48 PM

83. sorry sorry sorry

 

I am way too literal at times.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #83)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:51 PM

84. Me, too! Several people, on and off the internet have pointed it out to me and I agree.

Nothing to be so apologetic about anyway. Not as though you kicked me in the shins intentionally.

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Response to merrily (Reply #84)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:57 PM

86. ...

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:52 PM

14. What crap? The competing GOP "town halls"?

I'm watching David Attenborough on Nature talking about a new dinosaur species. That is more enlightening and relevant that the craziness of this year's GOP candidates.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:53 PM

17. You mean changing to CNN won't help?

 

Jesus

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:56 PM

24. No - the powers that be want to be sure that we don't alternatives in M$M

I spent much of the afternoon with Al Jazeera on. Now I need less news and more info.

Next on NOVA - The Iceman Reborn. New information on Otzi. Still more relevant than what the cable news channels have on.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:58 PM

27. Oh, the iceman thing is on?

 


Thanks! I believe you have fixed the problem.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:59 PM

29. Glad to help!

I think this is a new show about Otzi.

He was stalked, attacked and left to die alone. Murdered more than 5,000 years ago, Otzi the Iceman is Europeís oldest known natural mummy. Miraculously preserved in glacial ice, his remarkably intact remains continue to provide scientists, historians, and archeologists with groundbreaking discoveries about a crucial time in human history. But in order to protect him from contamination, this extraordinary body has been locked away, out of reach, in a frozen cryptóuntil now. NOVA joins renowned artist and paleo-sculptor Gary Staab as he has been granted rare access into the Icemanís frozen lair. Gary has been charged with creating an exact replica of the mummy, which scientists and the public alike can then study up close and in person. As we see the Iceman reborn from 3D printing, resin, clay and paint, new revelations about Otziís life and legacy come to light, including surprising secrets hidden in his genetic code.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=7621282

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Response to csziggy (Reply #29)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:19 PM

92. You wanna know what really sucks

 


I didn't realize I was watching on TiVo and was an hour behind the actual time anyway.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #92)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:25 PM

93. LOL!

I thought I was the only one who did that! Just think of all the crap you could have missed.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #93)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:42 PM

97. It hit me when I went looking for the iceman thing

 


But I'll be picking that one up tonight. So it's all good.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #97)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:54 PM

100. I recorded it and the one about the mammoth site that followed

But in the middle of the night. Good thing it was already set to record - I got calls during both and missed big chunks.

I've been watching a lot of shows that collected on my DVR over the last year. This weekend I think I will watch the most recent season of Dr Who - I missed most of those. My DVR is acting up so I am trying to clear off shows in case the company has to replace it.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:52 PM

15. you want I should kick your WTF'ing ass, jberryhill?

LEMME AT YOU!!!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:55 PM

19. +1,000,000 ... nt

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:02 PM

68. That's exactly what I'm talking about

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:54 PM

18. Well, until they make it right

 

I hope they never sleep at night. They better make some changes, and do it soon.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:26 PM

54. I don't think they really care

I think they just sit up there, and just get high.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:55 PM

20. We had a major protest about that

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:57 PM

26. What a great photo. ..nt

TYY

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:04 PM

32. love that pic lol nt

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:13 PM

39. Covers all the bases and the spelling is correct.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:11 PM

50. I love that sign!

If I ever go back out on the streets to protest, that's what my sign will say.

So true and very funny too.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:55 PM

22. As a wise DU'er once observed

Call fucking Congress, right now!

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Response to deutsey (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:07 PM

35. Actually, I think it was "Call Congress, right fucking now!!"

But then, I might be wrong...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #35)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:50 AM

57. You say "fucking now", I say "fucking Congress"

Let's call the whole thing off.

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Response to deutsey (Reply #57)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:57 PM

78. !!



One of my favorites!


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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:55 PM

23. When I'm in doubt about what kind of crap I'm dealing with, I usually call it Portsnip Puddlepants.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:58 PM

28. I don't know... I kinda LIKE Daylight Savings Time.

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:01 PM

30. I feel you

I hate the metric system too....

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:05 PM

33. my foot hurts. nt

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:07 PM

34. Google "proctologists"

They would have a better idea.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:10 PM

36. WTF, OVER!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:12 PM

37. mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them

Know what I'm saying?

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #37)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:06 PM

69. I think you're saying that I'm due beer and travel expenses and many experiences.

Which is totally true.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #69)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:43 PM

106. That's a good thought you have there.

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #37)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:16 PM

101. I was looking for that quote! LOl that was a good one.Still makes me laugh when I think of that

thread

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Response to livetohike (Reply #101)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:54 PM

107. The classics never die.

They just get bombed. Like the moon.

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #107)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:02 PM

108. LOL

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:14 PM

40. Ask Marc Maron. It's his show.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:19 PM

43. Skatalogical eschatology?

 

Now there's a major that going to pay the bills...

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #43)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:20 PM

44. Is that one big with stoners?

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:20 PM

51. Are you talking about the New Kids on the Block touring again?

Yes, their fanbase wears bifocals now, but that's their jam.

We must respect that.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:20 PM

52. I thought it might get better, but it just keeps getting worser and worser.

Here's a perfect example: Click through 'till you reach the full atrocity!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7621674

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Response to NBachers (Reply #52)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:28 PM

55. It's like a mystical portal

 


I feel better now

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:21 PM

53. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:34 PM

56. It is crap, it is all crap just crap and more crap

 

never ending crap. Money. You know how controversy gets the ratings up which means more revenue. They want it, you can tell by now.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:47 PM

60. Srsly. I mean, really, kale?!

 

Mickey D's found a way to screw up kale!

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #60)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:48 PM

61. Yeah, that too, WTF is up with that?

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:49 PM

62. I hear you.

 

I mean, really, if you're going to screw up someone's performance at the Grammys, why did it have to be Adele's?!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:50 PM

63. I totally agree.

 

The German shepherd at Westminster was totally robbed. What do they think this is, boxing?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:50 PM

64. Am I pondering what you're pondering?

 

I think so Brain... but, burlap chafes me so.

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #64)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:53 PM

66. Are you suggesting what I think you are?

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #66)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:55 PM

67. Uh, I think so Brain... but this time you wear the tutu. n/t

 

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #64)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:10 PM

109. I think so, lumberjack_jeff, ...

but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:51 PM

65. get used to it. It's the new normal

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:37 PM

71. Call your Congresscritter RIGHT F'ING NOW!!!!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:42 PM

72. yeah, sorry about that

i meant to clean it up earlier, but there are some internal dependencies that need to be resolved before i get rid of it entirely

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:46 PM

73. If you're going to eat at Olive Garden

you should be prepared for these things.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:49 PM

74. Don't know, but I will take a cheese steak wit and wiz

 

and a pint of Guinness. Gonna stick around and see WTF is happening.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #74)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:50 PM

75. Since when are you in Philly?

 

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #75)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:56 PM

77. I am not now, but there's a place in Minneapolis

 

that makes a cheesesteak that is utterly indistinguishable from the best ones I've had in Philly, which would be Tony Luke Junior's. Looked for 15 years before finding a place than makes a REAL cheese steak out here in da Midwest, ya know.

You wouldn't think it would be that hard - a good, fresh roll - softish in the middle with a bit of crustiness, thinly sliced, gently seasoned high quality rib-eye seared on a hot grill with some onions, a dollop of Cheez Whiz and, if you want them, some thinly sliced green peppers grilled with the onions.

You'd think it was goddamn neurosurgery given how hard it is to find a decent one outside of Philly.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #77)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:00 PM

79. And you order Philly-style like "wiz wit'"?

 



edit: There are cheesesteak places all over the Bay Area, too, but AFAIK, they don't bother with the Philly lingo.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #79)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:08 PM

81. Always. I worked a project in downtown Philly for eight months in '00-01.

 

The locals on the project told me to avoid Geno's and Pat's and go to Tony Luke's and to order "wit and Wiz." I did.

They also told me to order pizza from Lombardi's (Philly location now closed, NY still very much in business). The NYC Lombardi's was the first pizzeria in the US and the Philly Lombardi's used the same recipes, ingredients and the same style of coal-fired 950-degree (!) oven. When the gods on the Roman equivalent of Olympus got tired of ambrosia, they sent out to Lombardi's for a Special. Fresh mozzarella bufala, Italian tomatoes and pepperoni straight from a Philly salumeria. Best Pizza Ever.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #81)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:44 PM

99. Philadelphia is a lot more like it is now than it used to be

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:52 PM

76. Agree

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:16 PM

82. Well, Steve couldn't figure it out ...

... even with Carl's help...


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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:55 PM

85. I think the OP is referring to itself.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:05 PM

87. Kudzu! It's going places.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #87)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:17 PM

102. LOL? Classic Lounge thread!

Loved that one .

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:16 PM

88. It was like that when I got here.

I sure as hell ain't fixin it.

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #88)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:17 PM

89. That's what everyone says

 


Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #89)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:18 PM

91. It's beer-thirty somewhere...

i'll be there.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:29 PM

94. Even Vince Lombardi is curious.

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:39 PM

96. No, seriously.

What the fuck is this crap?!?!?!?

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Response to Iggo (Reply #96)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:44 PM

98. Good to know you noticed it too

 


For a while I thought I was the only one who thinks what I do, but then I quit thinking that.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:10 PM

103. I'm beside myself!

Think I'll give myself a hug.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:23 PM

104. all i can tell you is this:



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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:27 PM

105. Now we'll never know if sealions eat seazebras

WTF indeed...

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:52 AM

110. Where is Bob Boudelang when we need him?

Equal time is demanted!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:33 AM

111. Right? When the feelings gone and you can't go on its a tragedy. nt

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