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Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:56 PM

Let us make a list of honest politicians

I will start:

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Reply Let us make a list of honest politicians (Original post)
Angry Dragon Feb 2016 OP
steve2470 Feb 2016 #1
Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #7
steve2470 Feb 2016 #10
Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #2
steve2470 Feb 2016 #4
Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #8
struggle4progress Feb 2016 #3
steve2470 Feb 2016 #6
Justice Feb 2016 #9
steve2470 Feb 2016 #11
KamaAina Feb 2016 #5
HuckleB Feb 2016 #12
steve2470 Feb 2016 #14
HuckleB Feb 2016 #15
branford Feb 2016 #13
bigwillq Feb 2016 #16
NCjack Feb 2016 #17
steve2470 Feb 2016 #18
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #19
steve2470 Feb 2016 #20
inanna Feb 2016 #21
hifiguy Feb 2016 #22

Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:13 PM

1. you mean 100% honest at all times during their long and storied career, or....

maybe a more human criteria of 99% ? I think President Obama is pretty damn honest. I think Senator Sanders is pretty damn honest. I really like Vice-President Biden.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:19 PM

7. I was thinking more about ones that tried to make this a better country

without lining their pockets

I voted for Obama and I am disappointed with him
I would agree with your other two

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:23 PM

10. devil's advocate: It's very possible he changed his mind on some things

Changing your mind is different from genuine lying. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but YMMV. Proving genuine lying means that you have to PROVE that the person knew the truth and deliberately made a dishonest and inaccurate statement. I have no doubt in my mind that once he got into office, the PTB and the Pentagon and CIA "sat him down" and told him what's what. That's my theory and yes, I cannot prove it.

We won't agree ever on PBO, so let's just agree to disagree. Sincerely, have a good day.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:14 PM

2. Walter Mondale. Admitted that he would raise taxes (nt)

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:15 PM

4. pretty damn honest, yes, probably lost him the election knowing how we Americans are nt

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:20 PM

8. Yes

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:15 PM

3. I used to feel that way, in part because I lack any stomach for the work

But as I've gotten older, I've learned that a wide range of people enter politics: some of them smarter than others, some of them more principled than others, some more compassionate than others, some of them better educated than others, some of them holding views closer to my own than others, some of them more effective than others

Doing the job well can be hard work. And they're just people, like you and me

So I've gradually come to admire some of the folk who have the devotion, energy, patience, and wits needed



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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:16 PM

6. +1 nt

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:21 PM

9. ++1 We ask more of politicians than we ask of ourselves.


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Response to Justice (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:24 PM

11. you nailed it, it's a very rare human being who is 100% honest 100% of the time nt

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:15 PM

5. I will finish:

 

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:25 PM

12. I know one.

http://www.azleg.gov/MembersPage.asp?Member_ID=98&Legislature=51&Session_ID=110

No, really. And I bet some of us know some others at the state or local level.

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Response to HuckleB (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:28 PM

14. she's a professional social worker, social workers are almost all good people

Katie is from Phoenix, Arizona, and has a Bachelor of Social Work from Northern Arizona University and a Master of Social Work from Arizona State University. She has been a professional social worker since 1992. Prior to being elected to the legislature, she worked in the areas of domestic violence, behavioral health, and homelessness. She is currently the Executive Director of Emerge Arizona, the premiere political training program for Democratic women.


I said almost because, invariably, someone will bring up the ONE crappy social worker in history. 100% does not equal 99.999999999%.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:31 PM

15. True. Not quite as good as the people who pick up the horse poop during parades, but...



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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:27 PM

13. Your list is far too long. nt

 

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:42 PM

16. My list:

 

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:07 PM

17. Elizabeth Warren.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:09 PM

18. agreed nt

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:12 PM

19. Jimmy Carter.

The most honest man to ever hold the White House.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:26 PM

20. agreed that he is very honest nt

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:42 PM

21. Yes. Agreed. n/t

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Response to Angry Dragon (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:43 PM

22. I think my congressman, Keith Ellison,

 

is a pretty straight sort of Joe.

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