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Let us make a list of honest politicians (Original Post) Angry Dragon Feb 2016 OP
you mean 100% honest at all times during their long and storied career, or.... steve2470 Feb 2016 #1
I was thinking more about ones that tried to make this a better country Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #7
devil's advocate: It's very possible he changed his mind on some things steve2470 Feb 2016 #10
Walter Mondale. Admitted that he would raise taxes (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #2
pretty damn honest, yes, probably lost him the election knowing how we Americans are nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #4
Yes Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #8
I used to feel that way, in part because I lack any stomach for the work struggle4progress Feb 2016 #3
+1 nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #6
++1 We ask more of politicians than we ask of ourselves. Justice Feb 2016 #9
you nailed it, it's a very rare human being who is 100% honest 100% of the time nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #11
I will finish: KamaAina Feb 2016 #5
I know one. HuckleB Feb 2016 #12
she's a professional social worker, social workers are almost all good people steve2470 Feb 2016 #14
True. Not quite as good as the people who pick up the horse poop during parades, but... HuckleB Feb 2016 #15
Your list is far too long. nt branford Feb 2016 #13
My list: bigwillq Feb 2016 #16
Elizabeth Warren. NCjack Feb 2016 #17
agreed nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #18
Jimmy Carter. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #19
agreed that he is very honest nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #20
Yes. Agreed. n/t inanna Feb 2016 #21
I think my congressman, Keith Ellison, hifiguy Feb 2016 #22

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
1. you mean 100% honest at all times during their long and storied career, or....
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

maybe a more human criteria of 99% ? I think President Obama is pretty damn honest. I think Senator Sanders is pretty damn honest. I really like Vice-President Biden.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
7. I was thinking more about ones that tried to make this a better country
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:19 PM
Feb 2016

without lining their pockets

I voted for Obama and I am disappointed with him
I would agree with your other two

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
10. devil's advocate: It's very possible he changed his mind on some things
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016
Changing your mind is different from genuine lying. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but YMMV. Proving genuine lying means that you have to PROVE that the person knew the truth and deliberately made a dishonest and inaccurate statement. I have no doubt in my mind that once he got into office, the PTB and the Pentagon and CIA "sat him down" and told him what's what. That's my theory and yes, I cannot prove it.

We won't agree ever on PBO, so let's just agree to disagree. Sincerely, have a good day.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
3. I used to feel that way, in part because I lack any stomach for the work
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

But as I've gotten older, I've learned that a wide range of people enter politics: some of them smarter than others, some of them more principled than others, some more compassionate than others, some of them better educated than others, some of them holding views closer to my own than others, some of them more effective than others

Doing the job well can be hard work. And they're just people, like you and me

So I've gradually come to admire some of the folk who have the devotion, energy, patience, and wits needed



steve2470

(37,457 posts)
14. she's a professional social worker, social workers are almost all good people
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:28 PM
Feb 2016
Katie is from Phoenix, Arizona, and has a Bachelor of Social Work from Northern Arizona University and a Master of Social Work from Arizona State University. She has been a professional social worker since 1992. Prior to being elected to the legislature, she worked in the areas of domestic violence, behavioral health, and homelessness. She is currently the Executive Director of Emerge Arizona, the premiere political training program for Democratic women.


I said almost because, invariably, someone will bring up the ONE crappy social worker in history. 100% does not equal 99.999999999%.
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