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Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:19 PM

He has gone to his just reward . . . and here is Scalia telling us just why democracy went wrong.

There has been a lot of articles about Scalia's "originalism" but not much about his religious basis for political "originalism".

However, in an article about his views on capital punishment ďGodís Justice and OursĒ http://www.firstthings.com/article/2002/05/gods-justice-and-ours, Scalia explains his basis for this belief.

Divine right never died.

Scalia explains that in past times the majority of people were told that rulers gained their authority directly from god. And this was backed by a pageant of ceremonies that connected the god and the ruler. However, with democracy, it is not so self-evident to people that the state recieves its authority from god (because politicians, elections and other malarkey.)
But the stateís authority in a democracy is derived from god just as it is in a monarchy.

Divine right means that the Constitution was divinely ordained at its inception to further the aims of god through civil authority.

He believed the Constitution is not a living document, just as the bible is not a living document, and therefore societyís views of judgments and punishments should not change, but must adhere to the godís word as given in the bible.

God has given the government the authority to judge and punish in accordance with godís laws.

Thus because God punished with death, the state can also punish with death.

Civil rights not mentioned in the bible are not legitimate.

For example, since there is no mention of a right of abortion in the bible it can not be a legitimate civil right.

In other words, Scalia did not believe in the separation of church and state . . . He should never have been a lawyer, much less a judge.


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Reply He has gone to his just reward . . . and here is Scalia telling us just why democracy went wrong. (Original post)
cheyanne Feb 2016 OP
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #1
politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #2
cheyanne Feb 2016 #5
politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #7
world wide wally Feb 2016 #3
hifiguy Feb 2016 #4
Octafish Feb 2016 #8
hifiguy Feb 2016 #9
KG Feb 2016 #6

Response to cheyanne (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:29 PM

1. American is better without him

 

those that will follow and carry his message must be shunned

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Response to cheyanne (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:36 PM

2. The link did not work. Although I am not a Scalia fan, I would have liked to have read the actual

passages and draw my own conclusion. Is it possible to provide a link that works, or does one have to subscribe in order to log on to the linked document?

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:38 PM

5. Let me try again . . .

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2002/05/gods-justice-and-ours

The website is called "First Things" and the article is "God's Justice and Ours".

This link seemed to work for me . . . but here it is copied from the web site.

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2002/05/gods-justice-and-ours

let me know if it still doesn't work.

thanks.

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Response to cheyanne (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:53 PM

7. That one worked. Thanks a lot. Good reading material.

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Response to cheyanne (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:57 PM

3. Scalia was no hero of mine

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Response to cheyanne (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:02 PM

4. Invisible sky wizards are fairy tales

 

Sensible people outgrow. And no basis for political organization.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:14 AM

8. Didn't the Founders think that originally?

It's not taught much in the charter schools, but I seem to remember they separated church and state when they drew up the Constitution thing we used to have, before Scalia.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:24 AM

9. They were deists nearly to a man.

 

Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Adams definitely were. They believed god set the universe in motion and played no part in human affairs. Ol' Ben Franklin just might have been an atheist or at least a strongly doubting agnostic.

The "wall of separation" came directly from Jefferson's writings. It's a direct quote.

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Response to cheyanne (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:40 PM

6. someone wanna remind me why this guy was declared so brilliant...

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