"on our worst days, I think it is fair to say we are 100 times better than any Republican candidate"

[Agnosticsherbet]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Sissyk (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Sanders-Clinton debate transcript: Annotating what they say
TODD: Would you unite the party by trying to pick Senator Sanders as your running mate?

CLINTON: Well, I'm certainly going to unite the party, but I'm not -- I'm not getting ahead of myself. I think that would be a little bit presumptuous. If I'm so fortunate as to be the nominee, the first person I will call to talk to about where we go and how we get it done will be Senator Sanders.

(APPLAUSE)

TODD: Senator, would you consider the secretary?

SANDERS: I agree with what the secretary said. We shouldn't be getting ahead of ourselves. And as I have said many times, you know, sometimes in these campaigns, things get a little bit out of hand. I happen to respect the secretary very much, I hope it's mutual. And on our worst days, I think it is fair to say we are 100 times better than any Republican candidate.

In Sanders own words, he thinks that both Hillary Clinton and he are 100 times better than any Republican Candidate. I think we can take his word for that.

[Kelvin Mace]

1. A VERY low bar

[Agnosticsherbet]

4. And yet, Sanders is also under that bar.

If Sanders loses, he will be standing beside Clinton, helping her win the General.

[Kelvin Mace]

20. That's nice,

And certainly his decision.

[MH1]

8. But that is where the bar will be in November. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

23. With Sanders standing beside Clinton.

[EdwardBernays]

2. I think he's a naive idealist...

...when it comes to Hillary Clinton

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. Are you really throwing Sanders under the bus?

I am stunned.

Calling him a "naive idealist" is one of the best reasons I can think of not to vote for him.

[Andy823]

7. I wonder

If that was one of those "freudian slips" there? Could it be he isn't really for Bernie or Hillary?

I know I take Bernie for his word, and I know that he would be supporting Hillary if she were to win, just like Hillary would be supporting Bernie if he wins. I honestly can figure how any "real" Democrat would not think either one of them is a 100 times better than any of the republicans in the clown care.

[Agnosticsherbet]

10. I think in the thick of a ugly primary fight, Hyperbole sometimes gets the upper hand.

Sanders is not my preferred candidate, but I consider him honest, truthful, and a man of his word.

If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him and he will be a good President.

[EdwardBernays]

9. Lol

I'm mocking you guy's nonsensical meme.

I don't agree with everything he believes. The Sanders campaign is not about a subservient and delusional cult of personality. We're allowed to think he's wrong sometimes.

He's wrong about this.

[Agnosticsherbet]

11. If you remove the word "not" I could agree with that comment.

[EdwardBernays]

12. I have seen

Much more criticism of Sanders by Sanders supporters than I've ever seen w/ Clinton and her supporters.

I have however seen numerous supporters justify Clinton's corruption and dishonesty and scorched earth campaign.

You might just be confused, but I assume you're just playing a game.

[Agnosticsherbet]

13. When I play games, it's Dungeon's and Dragon's 5th edition.

Politics is not a game.

[EdwardBernays]

16. Talk to your fellow Clintonites

They tell me Hillary is just playing the game on an almost daily basis.

Hillary swaps another one of her positions. Playing the game.

Lies about past beliefs. Playing the game.

Being corrupt. Playing the game.

Being funded by weapons manufacturers. Playing the game.

Hiding who donated to her "Foundation". Playing the game.

And on and on.

[Agnosticsherbet]

19. So far, a majority of Democrats disagrees that ugly bit.

It's early.
I'm good with either choice against a Republican.
I am a liberal rather than a true believer in a candidate.

[EdwardBernays]

26. No liberal

Could vote for someone that could look at Saudi Arabia - a country with one of the worst human and women's rights records - and sign off on selling them 29B in weapons. She called that weapons deal a "top priority". Not helping Saudi women. Selling their royals weapons. Weapons being used to commit war crimes as we speak.

She presided over that deal while getting 25m from the Saudis and Boeing. While her husband got 250,000 from Boeing.

And then she hired the guy who owns the lobbying firm that represents Saudi Arabia and Boeing as her campaign chairman.

And broke her promise to Obama about disclosing who donated to her Foundation - she still haven't revealed those.

And then obscured 1100+ other donors by funneling them through a campaign donors Canadian charity - those haven't been revealed either. And publicly lie about why.

None of this is liberal behaviour. And it's no wonder - she's not a liberal. She's a center-right corporatist.

[yourpaljoey]

5. As you know, he has to say that

[Agnosticsherbet]

6. So you are calling him a liar?

Because if he says something that is not true, that is what he is doing.

I think he is telling the truth.

[EdwardBernays]

14. We can't know

Either way a meaningful number of his supporters won't be following his lead.

[Agnosticsherbet]

15. Then we will have to work harder against those who prefer a Trump

or other as President.
I know Sanders will be with us.

[EdwardBernays]

17. Lol

The second Hillary is nominated Trump has one.

[2pooped2pop]

25. It's protocol, it's tact, it's grace

I understand how you missed that considering your candidate, but way to go missing the point of a message and circling it into bullshit again.

[Agnosticsherbet]

29. He either told the truth or he didn't.

because protocol, tact, and grace are just polite ways of lying out of one's ass.

And that isn't bullshit.

I think he told the truth and will back it up with action.

[2pooped2pop]

18. One is

[Agnosticsherbet]

21. If you read the entire quote, he said "we."

So your comment is incorrect.

[2pooped2pop]

22. He said we. I said one

[Agnosticsherbet]

24. I think Sanders told the truth.

Opinions may vary.

[2pooped2pop]

27. I am not Sanders

My opinion varies in this case, but I understand his need to be tactful. I understand that you intend to use that a lot but even you must understand the politics behind the statement. He is trying to salvage a dem win regardless, while she must win regardless of breaking up the party and losing to Trump. Everything in her world is just her. No one and nothing else matters.

[Rex]

28. Don't cheat yourself, try 1,000 to 1,000,000

depending on mileage.

[TreasonousBastard]

30. Ya know, the first problem is that this...

should be in GD-P.

But, even if there's a good argument not to put it there, you'll note that such a simple and decent statement from Sander started a small argument.

I don't get why this statement should be at all controversial, but it is evidence that GD-P was a good idea.

[Agnosticsherbet]

31. That is my fault. I am sorry I brought this here.

[TreasonousBastard]

32. "Fault" is a slippery thing...

you brought a nice little story here, whether it belongs here or not, and others decided to take a dump on it.

"Blame" is slippery, too but I'd still put it on the dumpers.

[2pooped2pop]

34. Read the profile

This was dumped here to start trouble.

[TreasonousBastard]

36. Could be, but you and a few others were only too happy to comply.

[2pooped2pop]

38. yes the shit must be combatted

[TreasonousBastard]

39. Or just ignored-- the world won't end because of a few DU posts.

[2pooped2pop]

42. no but it might over the next president

[donna123]

35. I'm going to be presumptuous

I hope she does not choose that julian castro or his brother. Those two freak me out, I don't know why, their faces just freak me out. They're also too young/callow for my taste. It reminds me of that joke from Ray Romano about twins and how it's bad if one is funny looking, to see one of them, and then another one following right after.

[noretreatnosurrender]

37. That's HIS opinion

Why is it so hard for some Hillary supporters to understand that Sander's supporters do not march in lockstep? They aren't like Hillary supporters who change their principles and opinions based on what their candidate says. If we agree with Sanders we say so. If we don't we say that too. Our principles and opinions are our own. NO CANDIDATE will get blind obedience from us. They earn our support.

[2pooped2pop]

40. this is a game they play

they take one sentence and try to make it all about it, while purposefully overlooking the message of a post. I'm not sure it it is to get us angry in trying to make them understand a simple thing or if it is spinning 101 class.

I find them funny yet sad. Mostly sad that people who claim to be intelligent would vote for someone who obviously is going to change things for the worse. People will die because of Hillary. I am certain of that. It saddens me that her supporters think that every lie, cheat, immoral act she commits is a good thing.

[peacebird]

41. And i think he was being diplomatic. HE is 100% better than any R, SHE? #WhichHillary ?

It totally depends on whether she is against the trade deals (as she says to voters) OR for them as she says in her private emails.

Is she FOR a womans right to choose (as she says to voters) OR is she okay limiting abortion as long as the health of the mother is included in the law?

#WhichHillary

[Sissyk]

43. Locking.

Democratic Candidates belong in GDP. Please consider reposting there. GDP could use a positive thread about our Candidates.

Thank you!