Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:17 PM Mar 2016

Trump is toast ...

The David Duke thing, the trump University suit being allowed to proceed to trial, and the "off the record" immigration comments are going to be his end (despite Morning Joe's best effort and apologia). It might take a while, but they are "establishment" inflicted mortal wounds ... for trump AND the republican party.

39 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump is toast ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 OP
I hope so. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #1
So you thik Cruz is any better??? nt Logical Mar 2016 #31
I'll never forget hearing that after Katrina CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #2
No more Republican Party? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #7
Water off a duck's back. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #3
I beg to differ ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #10
Yup Politicalboi Mar 2016 #28
They just don't care. Inkfreak Mar 2016 #32
I wish. pintobean Mar 2016 #4
I'll wait until I see him actually coding, Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #5
Stake in the heart exboyfil Mar 2016 #14
Then nuke 'em from orbit Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #15
I hope you're correct about that Warpy Mar 2016 #6
Yep. He has no chance. brush Mar 2016 #8
Trump is smarter and far faster on his feet hifiguy Mar 2016 #18
Bwahahaha "A fern could have bested those nincompoops..." snagglepuss Mar 2016 #30
God, I hope so. But a lot of right wingers like that junk. I really don't think Trump was serious Hoyt Mar 2016 #9
Yeah ... they love his bluster and racism ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #13
We all know Chump is a con man and a bullshitter. lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #11
From your Dorian Gray Mar 2016 #12
The party faithful - the old school crowd - is livid TBF Mar 2016 #16
He was supposed to be dead in the water months ago. hifiguy Mar 2016 #17
Yeah, I thought his campaign would be dead a long time ago too. progressoid Mar 2016 #19
When have we seen this kind of ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #20
You haven't and you won't, either. hifiguy Mar 2016 #21
The GOP has painted themselves into a corner they will never be able to get out Major Nikon Mar 2016 #22
Sadly, I think you're wrong. Vinca Mar 2016 #23
you forget who it is that loves him: low info voters yurbud Mar 2016 #24
as long as he wins big today... lame54 Mar 2016 #25
I sure hope you are right. This guy is a hazzard! n/t Paper Roses Mar 2016 #26
Republicans have 34 governors, control 24 states, and control the legislatures in 6 more states Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #27
Their plan will be to run a 3rd candidate. roamer65 Mar 2016 #37
It would have to be a wildly successful third party candidate. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #39
Also the IRS doing a 12 year audit cannot be good. That is not normal. Rex Mar 2016 #29
I heard him say that ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #34
What a shame. I think he was totally beatable in the GE. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #33
But we still my get our chance ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #36
That would be a best case scenario. He keeps threatening that "if they're not nice to him", but so.. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #38
I hope you are right. NutmegYankee Mar 2016 #35

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
2. I'll never forget hearing that after Katrina
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

They were interviewing an elderly lady in New Orleans and she said, "There is no more Republican Party left after this!".

Seems she was right and now with this Trump/KKK/Duke crap as frosting on their racist cake, seems that old lady in New Orleans was quite right!

Hell of a way to go down however. Sickening in fact!!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. No more Republican Party?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

Hmmm, did someone tell Bobby Jindal? How about those clowns running the senate and refusing to allow Obama to nominate Scalia's replacement.

The GOP implosion has been imminent for years, yet even shooting themselves in the head seems to have no effect,

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
3. Water off a duck's back.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:24 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing seems to touch him, to discourage his supporters.

And if the GE is Trump v Clinton, both have plenty of self-inflicted crap.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
10. I beg to differ ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

what has been buoying the trump boat is no media source has focused on anything and none of his rivals have hammered what is out there ... now, the media is focusing, Rubio is hammering it ... plus, the gop establishment is running ads. Trump will only make it to the G/E as a 3rd Party candidate ... and I'm good with that.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. Yup
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

And she's weaker. She has Bubba and his past also. They are going to bring all that back. It can ALL be avoided if.......

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
32. They just don't care.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

They're all in, regardless of his shenanigans. Hopefully he'll cause republicans unhappy with him as the nominee will sit this one out. Frankly, I never thought he'd get this far.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
6. I hope you're correct about that
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

but being a boor and a bully has never been a liability in that party.

Our best hope is that it will dawn on the fence sitters and low information voters that he'd be a really bad idea as a president with his finger on the button.

brush

(53,764 posts)
8. Yep. He has no chance.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

Think of Trump's bluster in a debate against Clinton, who calmly dismantled a slew of repugs one after the other in the last Benghazi hearing, for 12 hours.

Trump has no actual policy. She'd destroy him.

And so would Bernie.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. Trump is smarter and far faster on his feet
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

than the stuffed animals and house plants on that House panel. A fern could have bested those nincompoops in a battle of wits, particularly about something as transparently bogus as Benghazi. Whatever HRH may be, and it's a long list, stupid is not one of those things.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
30. Bwahahaha "A fern could have bested those nincompoops..."
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

Bloody hysterical. Thanks for the laugh. Needed it.


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. God, I hope so. But a lot of right wingers like that junk. I really don't think Trump was serious
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

when he jumped in the campaign. He was after publicity, but his racist remarks took off and he was like a pig in slop.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. Yeah ... they love his bluster and racism ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

but the Duke thing cuts out the angry; but, not racist crowd ... the "I really didn't mean any of the stuff about deporting the 11 million and building a wall, it was just a negotiating point" cuts out the xenophobe crowd ... and the, Scamming of Joe Everyman Trial cuts out those that trust him to "do the right thing" crowd.

The difference is up to this point, no media source has focused on anything and none of his rivals have hammered what is out there ... now, the media is focusing, Rubio is hammering it ... plus, the gop establishment is running ads. Trump will only make it to the G/E as a 3rd Party candidate ... and I'm good with that.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
11. We all know Chump is a con man and a bullshitter.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016



What concerns me is if there might be a lot of others who vote
and don't know an obvious bullshitter when they see one.


TBF

(32,047 posts)
16. The party faithful - the old school crowd - is livid
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

I have seen friends on Facebook who are diehard republicans (these are educated and relatively well off people) who are very angry at their party right now. They know what this is doing to their party's brand and they are pissed. Of course they did bring it all on themselves ...

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
19. Yeah, I thought his campaign would be dead a long time ago too.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

The problem the GOP has is that they need a couple of the other crazies to drop out so the votes aren't split among them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. When have we seen this kind of ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

hell, any knid of concentrated fire at trump? ... despite Morning Joe's incessant attempts at rehabilitating him.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. You haven't and you won't, either.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

Les Moonves, head of Viacom, said Trumpolini is the best thing that has ever happened to teevee ratings. Which means the M$M has received its marching orders - don't lay a glove on Der Trumpenfuhrer, he's a money bonanza. For THEM.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. The GOP has painted themselves into a corner they will never be able to get out
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

The central problem the GOP has is their continued survival means getting higher and higher percentages of Republicans to the polls. In order to do this they have no choice but to take more and more extreme positions. Exceptions are no longer allowed for abortions, anti-immigration policy must include deporting all those who are undocumented and building more walls, the military must continue to grow, taxes must continue to be cut, on and on it goes.

Those who take moderate positions will never get nominated, and those who take extreme positions will continue to lose elections. Whichever direction they go will alienate part of their constituency. At some point their entire party will become untenable to anything other than the deep South.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
23. Sadly, I think you're wrong.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016

I listened to Trump supporters being interviewed on this topic and they really don't care one way or the other. Remember, we're not talking about the sharpest tacks in the box here.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. you forget who it is that loves him: low info voters
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

who can't understand an argument longer than a bumper sticker.

But I hope you're right.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. Republicans have 34 governors, control 24 states, and control the legislatures in 6 more states
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

What they have is absolute control of all legislation in the United States Congress. A sewage plant does not get named after George W. Bush unless they pass it.

In 24 states, they have a trifecta, which means they control Governor, the state senate, and the state house.
They control 34 governors.
In another 6 states, the control the State House and Senate

55% of all state Senators are Republican and 56% of all state representatives.

I will add, governors manage the state offices that control running elections and counting the vote.

The fact that they don't control the White House is annoying to them and threatens their Control of the Supreme Court.

There have been numerous stories pointing out that Republicans, fearful that Donald Trump will cause big losses in the House, Senate and even the States, are considering running a third party candidate and throwing the election.

They can lose the White House and still control most of the Cards.

The losses must be much deeper than the White House to make that big a dent. Their fear is that Trump will say something so stupid that Americans will flock in the millions to elect a Democrat. A big turn out of Democrats means the US Senate goes goodbye, they will lose seats in the House, a bunch of governors, and a handful of State Houses and Senates.

I don't think the Republican Party will go anywhere for a while.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. Their plan will be to run a 3rd candidate.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:57 PM
Mar 2016

No one candidate will get 270 electoral votes and it will throw it into the gerrymandered House of Representatives where the 3rd candidate will be selected to be President. The Democratic candidate will get screwed like Andrew Jackson was in 1824.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Also the IRS doing a 12 year audit cannot be good. That is not normal.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

I almost agree...not yet, but Trump will be toast. There will be a trifecta of shit that hits him all at once. There is recorded vid/audio of him in the 90s talking all about David Duke when he was relevant. His university is a scam just like these private colleges that put out worthless degrees. I would bet dollars to donuts he has committed some kind of tax fraud or will blame one of his top cronies when it comes out that he did. I can only imagine what kind of shithole, slave labor camps he uses in third world countries.



 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
34. I heard him say that ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

But, I don't believe for one instant he has been under audit for 12 years. And if he has been, he has some real dumb shits for tax lawyers ... or, brilliant, criminal attorneys.

I can only imagine what kind of shithole, slave labor camps he uses in third world countries.


I think trump's biggest fear is that his business model will be exposed. As best I can tell, he hasn't built or purchased control of or done anything business related in more than 20 years. He just sells his name to put on an enterprise or going concern. I think that is what has trump most concerned about his scamming of America university.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. But we still my get our chance ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

his ego will face him into a 3rd Party run ... and I'm good with that!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
38. That would be a best case scenario. He keeps threatening that "if they're not nice to him", but so..
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

far he's still there. I think if he loses, or comes close to losing some states he was supposed to win, he'll take his ball and go home. The good news is that he will do his damnedest to damage & even destroy whoever is left standing in his place.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Trump is toast ...