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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:06 PM Mar 2016

Monsanto Weed Killer Glyphosate Herbicide Found In Popular Beer Brands

http://www.mintpressnews.com/214427-2/214427/
By MintPress News Desk | March 2, 2016

Glyphosate levels were as high as 30 micrograms per liter, even in beer that is supposed to be brewed from only water, malt, and hops. This finding by the Munich Environmental Institute calls into question the rampant spraying of Round Up on both GMO and non-GMO crops around the world, and casts doubt upon Germany’s 500-year-old beer purity law.

The German beer industry is in shock after finding that 14 different popular beer brands have traces of the ‘probably’ carcinogenic herbicide, glyphosate – an ingredient found in Monsanto’s best-selling weed killer, Round Up. Germany’s Agricultural minster is playing down the risks in order to save one of the countries’ best-selling exports. ...
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AxionExcel

(755 posts)
2. Yes, and it's in tampons and sanitary napkins, too. Toxic GMO corporate culture is...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

totally toxic to our lives - and the toxic crap is, by now, everywhere.

Poison the land that grains grow upon, and ultimately poison the people. Poison the ground that GMO cotton grows on, and ultimately you poison the people.

Study finds that 85 percent of tampons, gauze, and other cotton personal care products contain glyphosate.

http://inhabitat.com/researchers-discover-85-of-tampons-are-contaminated-with-glyphosate/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. This isn't a "GMO," it's an herbicide. A GMO cotton grown without the presence of this herbicide
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

would not contain it. It's two distinct issues.

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
7. Yes it is. GMO-Glyphosate is absolutely the same issue. Do the science.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

Here's the GMO glyphosate universe in a nutshell:

"Glyphosate-resistant crops represent more than 80% of the 120 million ha of transgenic crops grown annually worldwide..." http://www.agbioforum.org/v12n34/v12n34a10-duke.htm

Glyphosate IS everywhere and - in our beer, tampons and whatever - because of GMOs.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. It's not a GMO, though--it is an herbicide. Some GMOs are created to RESIST the herbicide,
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:09 PM
Mar 2016

so that it can be used to kill weeds without killing the plant, but not all are.

You can separate the two issues and you should. See, when you conflate, you don't draw more people to support the glyphosate piece, you cause people who don't find GMOs to be the end of the world to tune you out.

Yes, there are GMO crops that are engineered to be GR, but not all are.

GMO doesn’t mean glyphosate-resistant

Calling a plant a genetically modified organism means only that – its genome has been modified by the activity of humans. But lots of people conflate the idea of a GMO plant with one that’s been created to be resistant to the herbicide glyphosate, also known by the brand name Roundup. It’s true that the most well-known GMO crops currently grown contain a gene that makes them resistant to glyphosate, which allows farmers to spray the chemical to kill weeds while allowing their crop to grow. But that’s just one example of a gene inserted into a plant.

It’s sensible to evaluate GMOs not on how they are made, but rather on what new traits the modified plants have. For instance, while it can be argued that glyphosate resistance in plants is not good for the environment because of increased use of the pesticide, other GMOs are unlikely to cause this problem.



http://theconversation.com/not-all-gmo-plants-are-created-equally-its-the-trait-not-the-method-thats-important-39532





You don't have to pay attention to this point if you don't want to, but I do believe I'm right on this score. You push as many people away -- if not more -- than you draw in. Broccoli, after all, is a "GMO." GHW Bush may not have liked it, but lots of people do.

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
9. Nope. Won't separate the GMO-Glyphosate issue. Same Corporate Borg. Same toxic ag.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

Same toxic results: Toxic beer, toxic tampons, toxic minds. It's a toxic freaking system.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Many will disregard you. Broccoli eaters, first of all. Tomatoes, papayas, etc.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016
http://gardening.about.com/od/vegetablepatch/g/Hybrids.htm

It's not a One Size Fits All issue. Simplifying it down to that weakens your argument.

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
11. ...and many more will realize it's the same corporate-industrial toxic ag at issue
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:20 PM
Mar 2016

GMOs and glyphosate go hand in glove.

The toxic beer, tampons, and whatever tell the story. Those who really want the truth will see that while GMOs and glyphosate are apparently two separate industrial products, they are same toxic approach to land, food, and humanity. And they are used together in over 80% of instances as the facts show.

But of course as anyone paying attention knows there is also a lavishly funded corporate campaign to obfuscate the whole stinkin toxic mess.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Well, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this topic.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

No sense arguing with someone who doesn't want to exchange views.

You can assert that something "tells the story" but the truth is, it doesn't. This is a far more complex topic than what you want to make it, and conflating all GMOs w/Roundup resistance is brutal over-simplification that doesn't do the subject matter any justice.

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
14. Alas, as long as the GMO-Glyphosate corps keep spreading these toxins into the world...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:55 AM
Mar 2016

...I feel I must continue to speak out and to oppose the poisoning of my family, my community, my nation, and my world. Since 80% of the GMO crops planted in the world are grown with glyphosate, it is fully accurate to note that the two corporate industrial ag products are linked.

I assert the basic right to know what is in my food.

And I further assert the right to not be poisoned.

On these matters of grave consequence I shall not yield.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. This is predictable considering how late glyphosate is being sprayed in the cropping season.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

The good news is that the concentrations are far below drinking water standards.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
4. Some growers are now using RoundUp to 'dry-down' grain.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

In rainy climates, accelerating the dry-down of grain via a RoundUp spray is used, though by what percentage of growers is controversial. Nonetheless, pre-harvest RoundUp applications are presently recommended by some Land Grant University sources:

http://www.extension.umn.edu/agriculture/small-grains/harvest/preharvest-management/

Not a good idea, in my estimation.

-app

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
5. Don't worry. Our next president will tell Monsanto to "Cut it out!"
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016
Big Campaign Cash for Clinton From Monsanto Lobbyist

A Monsanto Co. lobbyist, who is seen as Hillary Clinton's "main man" in Iowa, was among the top financial bundlers of contributions to benefit Hillary Clinton's run for the White House in the most recent quarter, new Federal Election Commission reports show.

Jerry Crawford of the Crawford & Mauro Law Firm in Des Moines, Iowa, bundled $151,727 for the campaign over the quarter ending Dec. 31, FEC documents show. Crawford is senior adviser to Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and was the Midwest Co-Chair of the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign in 2007-08. His firm listed Monsanto as a client in the most recent quarter, reporting $60,000 in lobbying income from Monsanto. Monsanto is known as one of the nation's most powerful corporations, and is currently engaged in a range of public policy debates over regulation of its genetically modified crops and top herbicide product, Roundup.

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
13. Scientists issue new warning about glyphosate risks
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

Published: 17 February 2016

In response to changing GBH use patterns and advances in scientific understanding of their potential hazards*, we have produced a Statement of Concern drawing on emerging science relevant to the safety of GBHs

http://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-016-0117-0

* ...The World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer recently concluded that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic to humans.

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