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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:47 PM Mar 2016

No Joke. “DO NOT JUST SCROLL PAST THIS PICTURE WITHOUT READING THIS POST FIRST. THANK YOU.”

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“So, if you know me or my friend, Seth Quackenboss, then you know that we often get ourselves into ridiculously wacky situations, especially when we're together. Yesterday was one of those days. We decided to drive down to Fayetteville in order to hear a certain orange politician speak. Yes, you guessed it. We went to a Donald Trump rally.

Now, I am not a supporter of Mr. Trump in any way, shape, or form. I'm quite inclined to a certain berning sensation that I've been experiencing for some time. But that's beside the point. The point is, we thought that we were in for a time of jokes and hilarity. And at the beginning, it was. There were a few speakers before Trump came out and they were not well organized at all. They were comical. One man, a veteran, said that he had shed blood on 7 continents. And unless I missed the great Antarctica War, I highly doubt that's true. Let it be known for the record, that I am not against veterans in any way shape or form. I just thought that particular comment was funny. Because I doubt he actually wounded someone in Antarctica. But a more plausible explanation would be that he was doing penguin research and accidentally pricked a penguin and it bled. Anyway…

One speaker also said that we needed to get rid of 911 calls and we all need to handle our problems ourselves. Well...that's highly unlikely. I can't imagine that people will start forgoing 911 calls when their house in burning down in order to try and extinguish the fire themselves. But, ya know, it's a nice thought.

So those were my laughable moments. Trump was about to come out. We had our signs ready. We were going to go all out. Yelling and screaming and whatnot. Because, why else were we there if not to join the spectacle? He comes out. People go crazy. For the first twenty to thirty minutes I sat there with high expectations of hilarity. After half an hour, my feelings turned extremely grim. I was scared and upset. Let me explain...

Trump basically said the same few things the whole time. He knows exactly what will get a cheer from the crowd and he says it. He mentioned his wall several times. About five or six if I can remember correctly. At one point he said "We're going to build a wall. And who's going to pay for it?" And the crowd yelled, "Mexico!" and then they lost their minds. Now, we all know exactly why this is stupid. So I won't elaborate. It was just very unsettling. He mentioned ISIS several times. About ten. But not exactly how to stop ISIS. Just comments like, "We're gonna get ISIS," and "ISIS is going down." Blanket statements. He did say that for America to win again (any sort of winning, not just against ISIS) we have to go outside of the law and he isn't afraid to do it. And that's unsettling for several reasons. But I'm just reporting the facts. And that was all he said on policy. Completely void of content or substance. Just statements that would get the crowd cheering.

Now, let's talk about the protesters. There were many. I think throughout the hour long rally, there were roughly 15-20 groups of protesters. Some of them were individuals and some were in groups. They popped up throughout the rally here and there. And some of them were yelling and causing a raucous but some of them were just standing there with their anti-Trump shirts or their pro-whoever else shirts. They were all removed. Peaceful or violent.

One man had a shirt that said "Love is the answer," and he was thrown out. Trump's comment on this man was, "And love is very important but I mean, who's making love to that guy?" And my stomach churned. A few minutes later, a woman stood up not far from where the other man was and starting protesting. She was removed. Trump's comment was, "She was with the other guy. They're actually a couple. A *clears throat* beautiful *gagging noises* couple." And the crowd laughed and cheered. It was horrifying.

But out of everything I saw, the crowd was the worst part. I have never seen more hateful people in my life. Everyone was just filled with so much hatred. If a protester had a sign, even the peaceful ones, they would take the sign from them, rip it up, and throw it back at the protesters. Whenever a protester would get removed, the crowd would yell horrible things. Once, after a protester was removed, Trump said, "Where are these people coming from? Who are they?" A lady, sitting not 5 feet from me, said, "Well hopefully when you're president, you'll get rid of em all!" Get rid of them? Get rid of anyone who opposes Trump? It was sickening. I felt truly nauseous. And these people loved the protesters. They loved the drama and the chaos. And Trump fed upon it. It was easily one of the strangest and uncomfortable things I've ever witnessed. I could just hear the horrible things being spoken around me and it made my skin crawl.

Needless to say, there was very little laughter on my part. I thought this was going to be joke...and it was, but for a very different reason.

I implore you, if you're thinking about voting for Trump, reconsider. You are only promoting chaos and hatred. I witnessed it firsthand. And trust me, this is not something you want to see in person. This is not what you want to happen to our country.”



http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/wow-ive-been-avoiding-the-political-trash-talk-but-trump-is-actually-the-next-hitler.454725517/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/11/1499735/-Trump-Rally-No-Joking-Matter
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No Joke. “DO NOT JUST SCROLL PAST THIS PICTURE WITHOUT READING THIS POST FIRST. THANK YOU.” (Original Post) kpete Mar 2016 OP
And all the channels are showing him tavernier Mar 2016 #1
That's why I stopped watching Rachel Maddow. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #48
They are here , and they get a vote - scary shit. nt pkdu Mar 2016 #2
And they won't have voter intimidation to deal with. None of their votes will be lost or challenged Person 2713 Mar 2016 #56
The saving grace here is that Trump is a blow-hard. He isn't an ideologue and the Powers That rhett o rick Mar 2016 #3
Speaking of the powers that be I wrote an OP I think you may be interested in Dragonfli Mar 2016 #20
Thanks for the link. It is a great post. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #28
I just re'ccd it 7962 Mar 2016 #50
Thank you for this post. SummerSnow Mar 2016 #4
Kudos to the young man who wrote this account of his visit to a Trump rally. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #5
very well written, wasn't it? renate Mar 2016 #10
Yes indeed. Summarizes very well that Trump is no longer a joke. nt JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #17
Sounds like GW Bush election rallies and speeches. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #6
Much worse.Dubya was the "nice face"; Cheney worked the back rooms of Hell. Trump is nakedly racist Hekate Mar 2016 #7
I keep wondering if the GOP isn't pulling a scam on us with their protests about Trump yurbud Mar 2016 #18
There seems to be agreement that Trump scares the crap out of the GOP establishment. ... Hekate Mar 2016 #23
Republicans hate to admit public sector experience has value yurbud Mar 2016 #53
Chaos and hatred. Excellent summation. JEB Mar 2016 #8
Very similar to Hitler's methods: emotions and scapegoats. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #12
On that very limited point, Trump provided something of value. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #35
No! I thought no such thing! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #39
The should just call Trump's new party, The American Bund. n/t geardaddy Mar 2016 #13
I will attend a trump rally to get witness of this turn....I need to see it for myself Demonaut Mar 2016 #14
mr liberty works with one of those young men's father ms liberty Mar 2016 #15
K&R!! Thanks for the great post, kpete... Peace! n/t Ghost in the Machine Mar 2016 #16
Well technically speaking whopis01 Mar 2016 #19
Thank you for this post. lovemydog Mar 2016 #21
Kick JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #22
Welcome to nazi Germany, 1934... Raster Mar 2016 #24
I am glad that these young guys got the shivers. sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #25
It is in the process of happening here. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #33
So who are these people spreading all this hate at Trumps rallies? WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #46
I'm gonna predict this so-called "front runner" of the GOP will fall HARD... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #26
That sounds terrifying Kalidurga Mar 2016 #27
For several weeks I have said I was more afraid of Cruz than Trump. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #29
Yet Jimmy Carter says he'd rather have Trump than Cruz!!! 7962 Mar 2016 #51
A lot more of Trump has happened since the Carter statement oldandhappy Mar 2016 #57
Kick! Heidi Mar 2016 #30
Trumpstika 0rganism Mar 2016 #31
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #32
KPETE and friend..AWESOME! asiliveandbreathe Mar 2016 #37
OMG - I meant "this thing", the hate and bigotry, is getting out of hand.... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2016 #38
not me kpete Mar 2016 #42
It's the Roman Coliseum, 2016 version. Terrifying. n/t DebJ Mar 2016 #40
In the belly of the beast, indeed. Thanks, guys. DinahMoeHum Mar 2016 #41
Trump has studied demagogues..... dawnie51 Mar 2016 #43
Something that I'm sure has been mentioned elsewhere, but Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #44
Trump's supporters are the scary ones IronLionZion Mar 2016 #45
I read this on FB. It just reinforced my whole "Trump is terrifying" thought. Butterbean Mar 2016 #47
Watching Hitler take power isn't funny. lark Mar 2016 #49
Vote Democratic in November! WhiteTara Mar 2016 #52
Trump and the hate radio crowd felix_numinous Mar 2016 #54
These guys need to send many LTTEs . Might sink in with people like them that think this is a joke Person 2713 Mar 2016 #55
LTTE's deaniac21 Mar 2016 #58

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
1. And all the channels are showing him
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:53 PM
Mar 2016

every moment they can because he might say something else shocking. And at this point many people think that he is the only one running.

If he gets into office, they will be as much to blame as the racists and homophobes and other assorted debris in the Repug party.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
48. That's why I stopped watching Rachel Maddow.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

I got really tired of constantly watching Trump on her show. Sure, they were negative comments regarding him, but it seemed he was on there nonstop. Why give him any kind of publicity?

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
56. And they won't have voter intimidation to deal with. None of their votes will be lost or challenged
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

I am going to bet

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. The saving grace here is that Trump is a blow-hard. He isn't an ideologue and the Powers That
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

Be will see him as a lose cannon. The Powers That Be are not ready to go full fascism. They have been very successful bilking the lower classes without going to that extreme. That's why they support H. Clinton (just as Mr. Oligarch, Goldman-Sachs).

The Powers That Be could have in 2007 extended their power and made a case to keep Bush/Cheney on temporarily while we fought the war on terror, but they decided not to. Like I said, they are happy with the rate at which they are bleeding the lower classes dry.

JFKDem62

(383 posts)
5. Kudos to the young man who wrote this account of his visit to a Trump rally.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

What started out as a lark, turned into a chilling dose of reality.
Well written and moving.

renate

(13,776 posts)
10. very well written, wasn't it?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

I hope this gets spread widely. I thought Trump was a joke too, at first, but this is horrifying... literally like a slow-motion train wreck, only it's the most powerful country in the world that's being crashed.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
7. Much worse.Dubya was the "nice face"; Cheney worked the back rooms of Hell. Trump is nakedly racist
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

Dubya fooled a lot of people.

Trump is nakedly racist and nativist and all-out ugly. We see him for what he is right up front, and the most appalling thing in the whole spectacle is the size of the crowds attracted to exactly what he is.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
18. I keep wondering if the GOP isn't pulling a scam on us with their protests about Trump
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

They know their brand is shit now, which is why they made up the Tea Party.

It's not much of a stretch to for them to realize the candidate who appeals to the base but the "establishment" disses is going to be more trusted than one that the establishment blesses.

In this scenario, Trump will be Bush on steroids, and kick it over the top to full fascism.

If he is just what he appears to be, an attention whore who doesn't realize there's a job at the end of this popularity contest, it's hard to imagine what the hell would happen if he actually won the White House.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
23. There seems to be agreement that Trump scares the crap out of the GOP establishment. ...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

They KNOW he is a gigantic wrecking ball with zero understanding of what it takes to govern.

They are very reluctant to admit they created this monster (Trump and his followers) and allowed it to gain this kind of power, but create it they did, and now they can't control the outcome.

The fear expressed by the GOP is genuine, imo, and they are right to be afraid.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
53. Republicans hate to admit public sector experience has value
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

If you believe just what Republicans say, the best president would be a businessman who has never served a day in public office.

But if their reaction to Trump is genuine, they know that's a lie.

Response to kpete (Original post)

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
34. On that very limited point, Trump provided something of value.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

But I don't think that was his plan, so I give him no credit.

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #34)

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
36. No! I thought no such thing!
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

I was just trying to make sure nobody thought I was either! This place can get brutal over a typo!!

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #36)

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
14. I will attend a trump rally to get witness of this turn....I need to see it for myself
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

my chance will be if he wins the nomination
It will probably be worse then

ms liberty

(8,558 posts)
15. mr liberty works with one of those young men's father
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

I am not surprised to see this getting attention, it's so well written.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
19. Well technically speaking
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
Mar 2016

I have to scroll past the picture before reading the post because you put picture on top of the post

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
25. I am glad that these young guys got the shivers.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

What most of those Trump supporters don't know
is the history of the Hitler regime.

It started, yes, with xenophobia and nationalism,
but it worked slowly and carefully to replace judges,
and thereby cleverly destroying any constitutional
rights. It used the loss of WWI to start a feeling of a
bitterness for a German country, which supposedly was
so much better than the Allies. Propaganda was extremely
well used (see Trump). It did to happen over night, but
seemed to restore some order at first, btw heavily
supported by banks and industry.

The idea of of "restoring order" and making "Germany
great again" is exactly, what appeals to the Trump
people.

And don't just say: It cannot happen here.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
33. It is in the process of happening here.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

Unless we stop it.

Additionally, it is not entirely dependent on Trump as a catalyst.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
46. So who are these people spreading all this hate at Trumps rallies?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

Oh that's right, they are our own American citizens, so this is how a fascist, racist country starts.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
26. I'm gonna predict this so-called "front runner" of the GOP will fall HARD...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

... based on the insanity line of prediction, it's about to blow. As Friday night unfolded, I sat with my husband in front of the TV, first seeing the more objective Al Jazeera America's footage. We then flipped around the predictable "cable news" teams. They've clearly gone off their rocker.

Starting with the ugly, anti-protest commentary that looked just like Fox "news", the talking head woman with longer blond hair could have been straight from the brainless team of Fox news, but no, this was CNN.

I will no longer bother with cable news. I'm hoping against hope that some entity will pick up the splendid job that the only remaining sane Al Jazeera offers after they are finished in April.

CNN jumped off the deep end and are as insane as all those "make America hate" Drumpf ralliers. We sure are gonna see something before the end of this month that when done will show us what we are witnessing to the point of putting an end to this insanity. We can't take much more of this.

I want to thank these two guys for presenting this rally story. This REALLY tells it like it should be told... Up front and personal.

K&R

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. That sounds terrifying
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:32 AM
Mar 2016

I just hope enough people realize how terrifying T-rump is and they will vote against him.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
29. For several weeks I have said I was more afraid of Cruz than Trump.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

Now I must confess I am terrified of both Cruz and Trump.
Trump is not a joke. He is an ill man and dangerous.
Thank you for the pose -- I think!

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
57. A lot more of Trump has happened since the Carter statement
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

I suspect he wishes he had not said that!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
37. KPETE and friend..AWESOME!
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

..You went into the lions den for all of us - trump and company are nothing but cowards.....good on ya'! - Be careful though...his thing is about to get out of hand for trump and his hateful followers.....

dawnie51

(959 posts)
43. Trump has studied demagogues.....
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

I thought way back in June, when he sailed down that escalator on his announcement day, that he held himself and facially mimicked Mussolini. This is an affectation that he has studied and is purposely using; these facial expressions and that body language is not the norm. But if you've ever watched old war films, he is the reincarnation of Mussolini. Very on point with every aspect of him. It is terrifying. These people like Les Moonves and Jeff Zucker, who make statements like "Trumps good for business" better wake the hell up. This ceased to be funny a long time ago.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
44. Something that I'm sure has been mentioned elsewhere, but
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

Hitler didn't create the ugly sentiments that were responsible for the extermination of the Jewish people. He just tapped into the hatred that was already in the crowd.

This paragraph says the same thing about Trump.

"But out of everything I saw, the crowd was the worst part. I have never seen more hateful people in my life. Everyone was just filled with so much hatred. If a protester had a sign, even the peaceful ones, they would take the sign from them, rip it up, and throw it back at the protesters. Whenever a protester would get removed, the crowd would yell horrible things. Once, after a protester was removed, Trump said, "Where are these people coming from? Who are they?" A lady, sitting not 5 feet from me, said, "Well hopefully when you're president, you'll get rid of em all!" Get rid of them? Get rid of anyone who opposes Trump? It was sickening. I felt truly nauseous. And these people loved the protesters. They loved the drama and the chaos. And Trump fed upon it. It was easily one of the strangest and uncomfortable things I've ever witnessed. I could just hear the horrible things being spoken around me and it made my skin crawl."

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
45. Trump's supporters are the scary ones
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

Trump is probably not going to accomplish much but his supporters are dangerous and looking to punish anyone who disagrees with them.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
47. I read this on FB. It just reinforced my whole "Trump is terrifying" thought.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

His followers are being whipped into a crazed frenzy and it isn't pretty.

lark

(23,065 posts)
49. Watching Hitler take power isn't funny.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

Trump is one damn scary man. Think he wants to seize our government, steal all the money for himself and a few other billionaires, destroy the constitution, declare war with Iran, then walk away with all the war profits he can take and our country will be totally bankrupt.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
54. Trump and the hate radio crowd
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

he sure knows how to prey upon a weakened and traumatized population. Yes America has been weakened by the corporate takeover, illegal wars and traumatized by economic collapse. We are at a crossroads, between the predators of all stripes who want to pick our bones, and Bernie Sanders who is taking a completely different tack of giving back to the country what is ours.

This morning I realized Trump is what Carlos Castaneda described as a petty tyrant, who teaches fortitude, self discipline and impeccability, and to not take ourselves as seriously as they do. Although I take him seriously, it is not for the reasons he wishes, but see him as a warning to stay sharp.


Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
55. These guys need to send many LTTEs . Might sink in with people like them that think this is a joke
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

and harmless

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