Authorities consider charging Trump with inciting violence at rally

[althecat]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272923-authorities-consider-charging-trump-with-inciting

March 14, 2016, 02:53 pm
Authorities consider charging Trump with inciting violence at rally
By Caitlin Yilek

Authorities in North Carolina are considering whether to press charges against GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump after a protester was assaulted during one of his rallies in Fayetteville, according to WRAL.com.

The Cumberland County sheriff’s office, while conducting an investigation into the sucker-punch and alleged threats against the protester, went over the speech that Trump gave during the rally “with a fine-tooth comb,” WRAL reporter Gilbert Baez told MSNBC News.

“During their analysis of that speech, there were several instances where Trump made comments that incited the folks to continue the violent acts during that rally,” Baez said.

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Excellent news.

[althecat]

1. I accidentally posted this in GD Primaries earlier

Last edited Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511487513
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Today is a critical moment in US constitutional history.

If Trump wins tomorrow & becomes Republican nominee an army of quislings will assemble around his racist, mysogynistic violent platform.

Many will counsel that it is better to let him campaign and lose rather than use the full force of the law to try stop him.

But if a week is a long time in politics, then seven and a half months of hate rhetoric - backed by an army of quislings - is an an aeon.

If Trump is indicted it will at least slow him down. The people will have a clear steer that this is not an acceptable form of politics.

If Trump is indicted Police & Security Services will have a clear mandate to keep an eye on the evolution of his "political movement".

If Trump is indicted civil authority, civil society & civic leaders will have a shield of defence to use when they speak against this evil.

But if a blind eye is turned to Trump's violent rhetoric citing "politics" & "democracy" then his legions will claim immunity and run amok.

And this is why the US DOJ must #IndictTrump.

P.S. It has been a long time since i have posted here.. But this Trump situation is seriously getting out of hand. As some of you know I am an NZer and a news publisher. I am currently based in France and like everyone in the world watching what is happening in the US very closely. IMO a combination of #Brexit and Trump being a candidate in this election might dent global confidence sufficiently to trigger a second round of the global economic crisis.

[althecat]

2. There was some skepticism expressed on the legal probability of this happening :)

[althecat]

5. For completeness, an earlier #IndictTrump Facebook Post Making Hitler Comparisons

Earlier #IndictTrump Facebook Post Making Hitler Comparisons

(linked to an AJ+ video about the violence)

Hitler used his brown shirts to disrupt and attack his political opponents and those who supported them. A few weeks ago Trump appeared a to be a figure of fun - just as Hitler did before he was armed with a gang of thugs who did his bidding.
The protestor who appears in this video who jumped the fence at an Ohio rally, and risked getting shot by the Secret Service, said that is why he risked his life. He too fears Donald Trump. As well he might. Trump's remarks at the end of this video are pretty scary. And his recent actions - which appear to be a very deliberate attempt to provoke large scale racial conflict - speak much louder than words. Indeed Trump appears to be playing directly from Joseph Goebbles playbook.
Democracy is not a contest of force. It is not a question simply of winning or losing. We should not forget that Hitler was elected in 1933 in what was at the time - in German terms - a landslide. He then mounted a putsch - a coup - using intimidation and violence to seize complete control and he then plunged the entire planet into war.
Democracy is founded on the rule of law. Any candidate who seeks high office (or indeed minor office) is required to do so within the bounds of the law. Recent events in the United States Republican race are begging a question for many of us around the world.
Does the rule of law still hold in the United States of America?
Trump is now very clearly breaking the law. His conduct in using his rallies, twitter and media appearances to incite racial hatred, and direct physical violence against others would not be tolerated in our nations - why is it being tolerated in the US?
It is no longer good enough to protect democracy simply for Trump to lose either the republican nomination or the election that follows. He has crossed the line - and he should be made an example of. He is not fit for high office. If he is allowed to continue on his trajectory every tinpot maniac in the world with a messiah complex and a gift for the gab will believe that they too are entitled to "play the game of democracy" and seize power and influence through intimidation and fear.
‪#?IndictTrump‬
See also: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-donald-trump-history-violence-protesters-article-1.2561656

[Abouttime]

3. I've been saying all along

That trump will be charged with something sooner rather than later. I've always thought the DOJ would come up with something on Trump maybe having to do with his shady business dealings and ties to the mob. This approach of charging trump for inciting violence will be much harder to prosecute and will make trump seem sympathetic to his rascist followers.
Obama has stated trump will not ever be president, I think he's prepared an insurance policy in the form of some charge that will stop trump dead in his tracks. All that needs to be done is to create the illusion of wrongdoing, as long as the charges have some merit trumps campaign will be wounded to the point he won't be able to continue. If the charges don't stick at a later date so what? They served their purpose to break his momentum.
Trump is running against both sides of the political spectrum which is fortunate for us. The very best thing that could happen is that Obama forces trump to exit the race, the republican establishment will stand by and let that happen. trumps political career goes down in flames and his supporters get exposed and get what's coming to them whatever that may be, hopefully they are ostracized from civil society and their businesses and careers ended.

[althecat]

4. I agree that that is the best thing that could happen, for America and Democracy at large.

Meanwhile this intrigues me

"I've always thought the DOJ would come up with something on Trump maybe having to do with his shady business dealings and ties to the mob"

Tell me more. Some good authoritative references would fit very well into the media mix on this story as it develops.

[Hortensis]

6. Unfortunately it's a huge move to make. They probably

need an incontrovertible case, and even then many millions will be outraged and start spouting conspiracies.

[althecat]

7. They have now decided not to proceed - sadly (but there is always a next time)

And this is progress.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/officials-decide-against-charging-trump-over-inciting-rally-violence-video-20160315

Fayetteville - Authorities in North Carolina say there isn't enough evidence to press charges against Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump for his behavior in connection with a violent altercation at one of his rallies last week.

In a statement issued on Monday night, the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office said legal counsel advised and Sheriff Earl "Moose" Butler agreed that the evidence doesn't meet the requisites of North Carolina law to support a conviction for inciting a riot.