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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:03 PM Mar 2016

Note to the younguns...Conventions used to be "contested" all the time!

Great point just raised on Steve Kornacki's show; young people tend to think that the front-runner automatically gets the nomination at the convention. But us old folks know that's not the way it used to work. I remember staying up until 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning when I was 15 years old, watching the conventions live on tv, waiting to see who would get the nomination. It was never a foregone conclusion until modern day politics.

The point being, if your favorite candidate doesn't win the nomination, it's not a conspiracy, it's not dirty dealing (not necessarily), it's not the system screwing you...it's the way it's always been done. Or at least, the way it always used to be done, until corporate media wanted everything to fit into nice commercial breaks, and have the horse races all predictable in order to sell commercial time.

Either way...no matter what...we need to stop Drumpf. GET OUT AND VOTE AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS UPON IT! Because it does.

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Note to the younguns...Conventions used to be "contested" all the time! (Original Post) Atman Mar 2016 OP
Exactly nichomachus Mar 2016 #1
Humphrey was nominated at a contested convention, I believe joeybee12 Mar 2016 #2
That's why the primary system came about KamaAina Mar 2016 #3
What year are you talking about hfojvt Mar 2016 #4
Not hardly. Atman Mar 2016 #5
they do not mention any floor fights in this account hfojvt Mar 2016 #7
1968 and 1972 Atman Mar 2016 #9
Yes, I used to so look forward to the conventions gelsdorf Mar 2016 #10
That was at a time when most states didn't have primaries. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #6
In the 19th century it was the norm for a convention to be contested or brokered bluestateguy Mar 2016 #8
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
2. Humphrey was nominated at a contested convention, I believe
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

Mainly because of all the RFK delegates...he was assassinated after winning California, and other states...a lot of delegates technically became un-committed with his death.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
4. What year are you talking about
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

I cannot remember a single contested convention in my lifetime, going back to 1972.

In what year were you 15? 1960 or something?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
5. Not hardly.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

Do you remember the 1972 convention? You didn't know who was the nominee until the final roll call. Oh, and instead of 15, I should have said 13.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. they do not mention any floor fights in this account
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_1972

and they show McGovern with a huge delegate lead.

1968 and 1972 seem to be the only recent examples, and they decided they did not like that kind of mess. So they changed the process some.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. 1968 and 1972
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

We did not know who was nominated until the end of the conventions. Today, the convention is pointless. It is just a coronation ceremony. "They changed the process some." Conventions since then have just been big parties for the nominees.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
6. That was at a time when most states didn't have primaries.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

Once you ask the voters, they are not so easy to ignore.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. In the 19th century it was the norm for a convention to be contested or brokered
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016

By the mid-20th century that was still the case, but to less of a degree.

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