Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:14 AM
Ken Burch (50,254 posts)
So, what do you think happens if the GOP denies Trump the nomination?
It will be too late for him to get on the ballot as a third-party candidate in a lot of places...but is it possible that he'd self-finance a write-in campaign?
Hard to picture the Comboveranisso just meekly agreeing to campaign for Cruz OR Kasich, really.
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Ken Burch | Mar 2016 | OP |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
questionseverything | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
PoliticAverse | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
RKP5637 | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
Chan790 | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
leveymg | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
leveymg | Mar 2016 | #17 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Mar 2016 | #21 | |
leveymg | Mar 2016 | #25 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Mar 2016 | #26 | |
1939 | Mar 2016 | #20 | |
phantom power | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
Heidi | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
beachbumbob | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
SDJay | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
Major Hogwash | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
leveymg | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
FSogol | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
Nitram | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
RobinA | Mar 2016 | #18 | |
Nitram | Mar 2016 | #22 | |
randome | Mar 2016 | #19 | |
bdwker | Mar 2016 | #23 | |
MowCowWhoHow III | Mar 2016 | #24 | |
jpak | Mar 2016 | #27 |
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:15 AM
The Velveteen Ocelot (100,761 posts)
1. It will get very interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if his faithful minions rioted outside the convention.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
questionseverything (8,532 posts)
2. he will run third party
i think that has always been the plan
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:18 AM
PoliticAverse (26,225 posts)
3. The Republican party chances of winning the Presidency in 2016 moves to "not happening, no way".
And the Democrats' chance of retaking the Senate moves to "most likely".
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:18 AM
RKP5637 (63,228 posts)
4. I don't think he and his supporters will go away quietly. ... don't know what will happen, but his
followers are far too angry to just go away or vote for someone else IMO.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:21 AM
Chan790 (20,176 posts)
5. The establishment of sanity and reason backed by a chorus of gnashing teeth and fascist rage. n/t
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:24 AM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
6. They will loose between 15% and 38% of Republican voters.
who will be angry that, having won a solid majority of delegates and the popular vote, he was shut out by the Republican Establishment.
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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #6)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:37 AM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
14. If this prompts a split in the other party, we could see 1/3 of Dems not voting for Hillary.
HRC supporters should not count any chickens. This election is all about a populist uprising against the ruling Demoplicans. This could lead to a mass walkout from both parties.
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Response to leveymg (Reply #14)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:50 AM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
16. Whether Republican, Democrat, Conservative, or Liberal, people who don't vote don't give a damn
who is in charge.
The anger of Republicans would be real, and justified. If they do something that stupid, I am happy to take advantage of that to win, because any Democrat is better than any Republican, and I do not want Scalia's seat on the Court go to someone even worse. The anger of some Democrats will be real if they decide they can't vote for Clinton, if Sanders does win the majority of delegates and the popular vote, and at this time there is not evidence he will do that, they would be justified in their anger. (If he does, we would see a replay of 2008, when the Super Delegates switched from Clinton to Obama.) Republicans will be more than happy to take advantage of Democrats and gain control the White House and the Supreme Court. The primary is about fighting to get the best candidate. The General Election is about choosing from the options who will make the best government for the citizens. History shows that, between Republicans and Democrats, this is not even a question. |
Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #16)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:58 AM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
17. A lot of us are going to make a decision closer to the election based upon circumstances at the time
If it appears that there is little or no help to the GOP by going Third Party or staying home, I think that's what's going to happen. As it is, aside from Trump and Bernie supporters, this appears to be a low-turnout primary season. The election will likely follow suit because the establishment candidates are a major turnoff to a very large percentage of the electorate, across the board.
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Response to leveymg (Reply #17)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:31 PM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
21. We have a government elected by a majority of those who vote.
Personally, I never let someone else make difficult choices for me.
I wish we lived in a system where the differences between candidates were purely choices of policy, and I would find any of them acceptable, even if not my first choice. Sadly, we do not. I know that I will vote for the Democratic Presidential nominee in November. Even the best Republican is Nuckin Futs, and third party candidates are spoilers with no chance of ever winning in my part of California. I do my best to elect a government that is closest to my own governing philosophy. I guess that makes me pragmatic. |
Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #21)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:24 PM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
25. Unfortunately, that isn't so. We have a state-by-state winner-take-all Electoral College system
that has all but made voting in GOP Red states irrelevant to outcome of Presidential elections. If we choose a bad Democratic candidate, one that demobilizes the progressive base and intensely alienates Independents, we are going to lose the General, no matter what her Democratic supporters do.
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Response to leveymg (Reply #25)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:15 PM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
26. I can not through inaction contribute to the election of a Republican President.
and the complete loss of the Supreme Court of a generation.
If people choose to do that, then I am sure they will enjoy Republican control of government, and if the don't, they deserve the worst that Republicans will be done to them. |
Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #6)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:50 PM
1939 (1,683 posts)
20. Plurality not majority NT
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:24 AM
phantom power (25,966 posts)
7. I try not to hope for that, because it would be the very best possible outcome.
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:26 AM
Heidi (58,237 posts)
8. He'll flip his wig, stomp his feet, run third party, and lose. (nt)
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:27 AM
beachbumbob (9,263 posts)
9. All out rebellion with conservative world...
Trump too cheap to pay his own 3rd party run...still could happen...I suspect tea party/trump wing of GOP will stay home in November...
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:31 AM
SDJay (1,089 posts)
10. Two Prongs, Perhaps Three
1. There would be, sadly, riots and violence in the streets as the feces-flinging useful idiots who support this pig would go insane with Drumpf egging them on. It would be terrible. People would be hurt and some could even be killed.
2. Drumpf would start suing anyone and everyone in federal court, putting the entire R ticket into a situation of total uncertainty. Injunctions would be sought, some could be granted and no one would know WTF to do from there. Their convention, happily, would be a total fucking disaster. And possibly... 3. Drumpf would try to force his way onto state tickets as a third party candidate, and he may try to use the courts to circumvent those laws and deadlines as well. At this point, that POS thinks he's owed the presidency. It's his because he wants it and he's better than everyone else. He's not going to show any class or dignity no matter how he loses if he loses. It's just not in his makeup. |
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:31 AM
Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)
11. Trump will pout and threaten to wage a write-in campaign or self-finance an independent campaign.
But, there is no "if" anymore, the GOP is actively waging war with Trump.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:33 AM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
12. The GOP will split, which will open the door to the exit of many from the DLC/BlueDog/ThirdWay Dems.
If the Republicans divide, this will remove much of the pragmatic argument for sticking with our probable Demoplican Party candidate in November, Clinton.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:36 AM
FSogol (42,794 posts)
13. Lawsuits against the GOP. Court orders to stop the convention.
Get yer popcorn ready....
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:47 AM
Nitram (18,373 posts)
15. If he is denied the nomination he is dead in the water.
Response to Nitram (Reply #15)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:28 PM
RobinA (8,844 posts)
18. If He Is
denied the nomination, I fear our country would be dead in the water. First the Supreme Court stops a vote count and then a major party denies a duly nominated candidate the right to be the candidate? No.
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Response to RobinA (Reply #18)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:59 PM
Nitram (18,373 posts)
22. I'm not suggesting they go against party rules.
If Trump wins the magic number, he will be the nominee. I didn't realize you were talking about breaking the rules. But if trump doesn't reach the magic number, delegates can then change their support to a different candidate.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:49 PM
randome (34,845 posts)
19. The end is nigh.
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:04 PM
bdwker (435 posts)
23. 2 words at the GOP convention: OPEN CARRY.
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:15 PM
MowCowWhoHow III (2,103 posts)
24. I honestly think some Trumptons will vote for Bernie Sanders in that event
Partially as an FU to the (GOP) establishment, partially because there's a small overlap with regards to trade treaties.
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