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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:05 PM Mar 2016

Prediction: Trump "magnanimously" withdraws from the race after proving that he "won"

Here's what I am thinking:

1. Trump doesn't actually want to be President.

2. Trump does not like to lose - always needs to win

3. Trump loves having power over people, loves people kissing up to him, loves having something over powerful people

With that in mind, I am envisioning this scenario: Trump gets the most delegates but not the majority needed, so he cuts "the best deal" that he can get with one candidate or another. He then says that in the name of unity he will back candidate X. Upon doing so, he will be hailed as a hero among the Republicans for saving the party.

This will enhance his brand, which in turn will lead to him making more money and everything that goes with that.

He achieves his goal of "winning" but doesn't have to deal with the mundane unpleasantness of actually having to be president.

What do you all think?

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Prediction: Trump "magnanimously" withdraws from the race after proving that he "won" (Original Post) oberliner Mar 2016 OP
Certainly plausible. NV Whino Mar 2016 #1
Thanks oberliner Mar 2016 #11
I think you're wrong. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #2
I definitely think he intends to win oberliner Mar 2016 #7
oh i hope so! nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #3
I thought at first that eventually he doc03 Mar 2016 #4
But does he really want to be president? oberliner Mar 2016 #6
Possible, but... Jerry442 Mar 2016 #5
Can't he re-direct him to the candidate of his choice? oberliner Mar 2016 #8
At this point nothing would surprise me BlueState Mar 2016 #9
That's why I am imagining a scenario where he both wins and also doesn't need to do the actual job oberliner Mar 2016 #12
That sounds like it actually could happen. Rex Mar 2016 #10
Yeah - it's a different kind of cycle oberliner Mar 2016 #13
That was a moment in modern politics that some will never see again. Rex Mar 2016 #17
I've seen numerous threads like this here. cwydro Mar 2016 #14
I am in complete agreement with items 1 through 3. arcane1 Mar 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #16
He craves the limelight too much to just walk away without some wild closing drama. procon Mar 2016 #18
I would have entertained your idea.....but.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #19
No. The GOP has pissed off Trump enough for him to hold a grudge. karadax Mar 2016 #20
If he sees they are going to seize the candidacy in a brokered convention, Chemisse Mar 2016 #21
Possibly 1939 Mar 2016 #23
how bout he does win, then just doesn't take the office oath...... a kennedy Mar 2016 #22
about 3 months ago i would have agreed with you, not anymore 0rganism Mar 2016 #24
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Thanks
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

It seems like that would be the best of all worlds for him and the Republicans alike.

And good for the rest of us as well.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. I definitely think he intends to win
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

I just get the sense that he doesn't want to actually do the job and will look for a way to both win and not have the job.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
4. I thought at first that eventually he
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

would say it was some kind of joke. I think he is in for good now.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. But does he really want to be president?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

It doesn't seem like that would actually be a job that interests him. It seems like winning the election is the whole fun of it from his perspective.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
5. Possible, but...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

...the yuuuuuge problem is the very large number of voters who have openly embraced Trump's hateful messages. They won't just disappear.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Can't he re-direct him to the candidate of his choice?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

And then they can get all excited about that person instead or take their balls and go home, so to speak.

BlueState

(642 posts)
9. At this point nothing would surprise me
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

I had thought along the same lines recently. I thought he never planned to take it this far and was planning on bowing out somehow.

Now I think he is a megalomaniac and believes his own bullshit. He may not have planned on getting this far but he can't help himself. He'll try to win because his type just can't stand to lose.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. That's why I am imagining a scenario where he both wins and also doesn't need to do the actual job
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:15 PM
Mar 2016

Winning seems to be the point for him - and he can still call it a win under my prediction.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. That sounds like it actually could happen.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

Anyone that brings his own brands to a presser...yes I can see it happening.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Yeah - it's a different kind of cycle
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

It feels plausible to me, crazy as it may seem. Because, as you've said, Trump's already brought a lot of crazy to the race.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. That was a moment in modern politics that some will never see again.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:20 PM
Mar 2016

Yes his brand of crazy off the wall, no idea what he will throw at you next. Not a normal election cycle at all. Worse, imo, in the wings is an even bigger evil (maybe measured in ounces) Ted Cruz!

This election cycle is do or die for this country imo and I KNOW people say that every election cycle. This one feels different. A lot more important since so many safe guards and regulations are lacking. The GOP has been a straight up horse race.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. I am in complete agreement with items 1 through 3.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

Which is why the Hitler comparisons don't scare me too much: he has no plan or vision or even a desire to run the country.

It's just a matter of "when".

Response to oberliner (Original post)

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. He craves the limelight too much to just walk away without some wild closing drama.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

Remember Ross Perot, another billionaire ego maniac with a cult like following who convinced voters that only he could save America? He was leading in the polls, the people loved his crazy shtick, but then he suddenly withdrew from the presidential race with some cock and bull tale about vague, unexplained threats against his daughter’s wedding. It never made any sense, but the news media was working feverishly at dishing up mad conspiracy theories to explain the fact that we very nearly had a certified loon as the next president.

Could Trump pull off some similar stunt to give him an excuse to quit, but still save face? You betcha!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
19. I would have entertained your idea.....but....
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:34 PM
Mar 2016

I read that he was trying to get Bush Sr. to add him to the ticket in 1988.

He doesn't know what he is getting himself into, but I believe that he really does want to be President.

karadax

(284 posts)
20. No. The GOP has pissed off Trump enough for him to hold a grudge.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

This open plotting against him is only the latest thing that he won't forget if he gets the nomination / wins the presidency. If he gets into a contested convention I expect him to sink the ship so to speak. If he can't have it (the presidency) nobody will.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
21. If he sees they are going to seize the candidacy in a brokered convention,
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

which guarantees he will lose, then he might just do this.

He could claim a win, avoid embarrassment, and best of all, stay out of the White House, where he would have to work very hard.

1939

(1,683 posts)
23. Possibly
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

I don't see him bowing to Cruz or Rubio, but he might go with Kasich if he and Kasich together have enough delegates for the majority.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
24. about 3 months ago i would have agreed with you, not anymore
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

here's my rethink:
1. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself, but he's willing to put on a big show if it pumps up his ego
2. Trump has received an ass-kissing from the media (which he constantly disparages) unparalleled in modern politics
3. Trump loves having power over people, loves people kissing up to him, loves having something over powerful people (as you say)

by my reckoning he might not want to do the president's JOB, but he'd be pleased as punch to be the president. he's getting off on the campaign in a way he couldn't have imagined -- this is something he hasn't really gone anywhere with before, and he likes the flavor. seeing 20000 people chanting his name has given him a rush that he can't get anywhere else, and being able to control all these people with a word and a gesture appeals to his sense of self-apotheosis. he's playing this like a game, sure, but he enjoys the game and he doesn't give a crap about consequences. this is pumping his ego like nothing else he's ever done, even before he's won the nomination. he wants the happy ending, the full victory trip, and he's pretty close to getting it. now he's promising jobs to his primary opponents in return for endorsements, and who knows what he's promised to his actual friends. i don't see him dropping out now.

if it comes to a convention floor fight and he gets the nomination yanked away on a 2nd ballot maneuver, i can easily see him running as an independent. he has no need for the Republican party apparatus, and he will gladly ruin their electoral chances in the name of revenge and ego gratification.

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