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RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:55 AM Mar 2016

Henry Kissinger

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Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger led many coups in Latin America and Asia. During the Vietnam War, Kissinger led a campaign of brutal deaths across the Indochina region which included the Agent Orange events that impacted innocent families in the area. As we know, that wasn't even discussed in the United States government until the 1980s and 1990s. Sadly, these negative events still have deep biological effects of the people of Laos and Cambodia, as well as land destruction in Vietnam.

Kissinger continued to outdo himself with more L.A. overthrows, especially in Chile where people are still mourning the destruction of their homeland. Under the CIA and Kissinger, they even backed many fascist and/or authoritative dictators, just so that American interests and investments were kept safe. Many of these nations were considered 'too left-leaning' for U.S. support because of the Cold War policies and ideals. In 2002, Kissinger was the architect for a failed Venezuelan coup which only showed the foolishness of the CIA and the foreign policy of the U.S. government. Kissinger also provided the architecture towards the Hondurian overthrow in 2009, which destablised that entire nation throughout the early 2010s. As many are aware, Central America has had serious issues with drug cartels havocking slums and funding police departments.

It truly is a disturbing thing when people don't understand the negative precedent this filthy war criminal has set around the world, in particular poorer nations with heavy imperialistic influences. It greatly disappoints me when politicians on both sides, particularly democrats, praise Kissinger and brag about his record as serving the nation under great service. He has been an utter disgrace to everything that a democracy stands for and is regarded by many as the antithesis of social equality throughout the world.

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Henry Kissinger (Original Post) RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 OP
and the Clintons vacation with the Kissingers every year. grasswire Mar 2016 #1
John Foster Dulles was Sec of State when Arbenz was overthrown BainsBane Mar 2016 #2
I misspoke, I'm referring to his SoS days during the Nixon/Ford era RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #3
And my evidence is through his methods RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #4
Well, as the Guatemalan case shows, it wasn't a precedent BainsBane Mar 2016 #5
Curious nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #6
Sounds like a sales pitch for global-neoliberalist policies RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #7
Blame Agent Orange on Robert McNamara 1939 Mar 2016 #8

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. and the Clintons vacation with the Kissingers every year.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:10 AM
Mar 2016

...at the luxurious tropical estate of Oscar de la Renta.

BFF

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
2. John Foster Dulles was Sec of State when Arbenz was overthrown
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat In 1954, Kissinger was just finishing his doctorate at Harvard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
He didn't enter government until the Nixon administration. He helped orchestrate the coup against Salvador Allende in Chile in 1973.

What is your evidence that he was responsible for the 2002 coup? He wasn't in govt at the time. And Honduras? Really? Under the Obama administration? Again, what evidence do you have? There is a great deal of evidence for the coups against Arbenz and Allende. Those are established in the historical record. This is the first I'm hearing of Kissinger's involvement in the 21st century coups, and given your mistakes on Guatemala I'm not disposed to take your word for it.

Kissinger has an unsavory history, to be sure. I believe he should be indicted for war crimes by the Hague, if we were a member of the ICC. Facts, however, do matter and you've confused a number of them. You really need to check your information.
 

RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
4. And my evidence is through his methods
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:22 AM
Mar 2016

The way he carried out his approach in FP set a precedent for others who shared his viewpoint when it came to Cold War containment and protecting U.S. interest.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
5. Well, as the Guatemalan case shows, it wasn't a precedent
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

It was a continuation of a long strategy of US interference in democratic processes in Latin America. Prior to WWII, much of the intervention was done through the marines. Following the war it was done covertly through the CIA. I'm afraid Kissinger was not particularly unusual in that regard at all. The history of US regime change in Latin America, whether coups or military invasions, goes back to the late-19th century. The US military invaded Caribbean basin nations some 35 times or so in the first quarter of the twentieth century. It would be nice if we could fault a couple of individuals, but it has been far more pervasive.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
6. Curious
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:39 AM
Mar 2016

He keeps talking about a "New World Order", yet AFAIK no reporter ever asks WTF he means by that. Any guesses? Since Henry K has been advising most of Washington DC for the last 40 years, wouldn't it be good to know?



"A New World Order...with different characteristics all over the world"

"The affirmative task we have now is to actually create a New World Order" -VP Joe Biden, 2013

 

RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
7. Sounds like a sales pitch for global-neoliberalist policies
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:52 AM
Mar 2016

He seems to tie in conflicts in poorer nations and then proclaims that because it's a "global" issue that there needs to be solutions tying into that, hence things like TPP. However, given how he has advised DC on FP issues for 4 decades, it seems as though he had to destroy his way to get his way or the way of the imperialist machine. Other than maybe Carter, each president from Nixon-Obama has had in some ways very similar FP approaches. Maybe this is why, it's all part of a lobbying campaign by the Kissingers of the world which has influenced the likes of both parties.

1939

(1,683 posts)
8. Blame Agent Orange on Robert McNamara
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:55 AM
Mar 2016

While Kissinger was advising Nixon during the ground invasions of Cambodia and Laos, there was significant air action (to include
Agent Orange) against both countries during the LBJ/McNamara years.

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