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BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:49 AM Mar 2016

McConnell, sounding rattled, says give the people a voice

Spinning like a top on the Senate floor right now. Says, "Give the people a voice." Well, here's what the people say, and that was before the President nominated the most qualified, least politically-charged candidate available:

Majority of Public Wants Senate to Act on Obama’s Court Nominee

In the high-stakes battle over replacing Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, a majority of Americans (56%) say the Senate should hold hearings and vote on President Obama’s choice to fill the vacancy. About four-in-ten (38%) say the Senate should not hold hearings until the next president selects a court nominee.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/02/22/majority-of-public-wants-senate-to-act-on-obamas-court-nominee/


And then there's a big spiel about the Biden Rule, which people will look at as so much Beltway speak.

This will be fun.
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McConnell, sounding rattled, says give the people a voice (Original Post) BeyondGeography Mar 2016 OP
Yep malaise Mar 2016 #1
His argument, they don't want to politicize it, they just want to make this part of the Presidential still_one Mar 2016 #2
When a politician says he doesn't want to politicize an issue... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #8
That answered my question, thank you still_one Mar 2016 #11
Plus there is Senate election every two years edhopper Mar 2016 #14
All McConnell has are spitballs C_U_L8R Mar 2016 #3
He doesn't have an honest bone in his body. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #4
McConnell, sounding rattled, says Presidents must be limited to court picks in first 3 yrs of term. blm Mar 2016 #5
Senator McConnell liberal from boston Mar 2016 #22
McConnell ought to sound rattled. blue neen Mar 2016 #6
How are they getting away with this?! flygal Mar 2016 #7
Let's get ready to rumble Solly Mack Mar 2016 #9
I am going to miss deathrind Mar 2016 #10
Ya wait til Trump nominates Judge Judy. glinda Mar 2016 #12
38% get a D- in Civics. ffr Mar 2016 #13
Biden's office has released the following statement: Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #15
Senate should hold hearings and vote oldandhappy Mar 2016 #16
The people decided in 2012 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #17
When McConnell says "the people," he means only artificial persons Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #18
hmm, seems like we spoke pretty clearly about this in 2012 0rganism Mar 2016 #19
the voters spoke in 2012 mitchie....were you sleeping? spanone Mar 2016 #20
He really was showing some flop sweat there on the Senate floor. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #21
He certainly was BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #25
oh, republicans don't care about THOSE people. spanone Mar 2016 #23
THEY DID, you lying POS!!! We the people elected Obama AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #24
It was called the last election, Dickwad. Codeine Mar 2016 #26
I just contacted my Senator re the "Biden" rule. Vinca Mar 2016 #27
Yet the low information wingnut sheep will believe "the BIDEN rule" is actual *law*. UTUSN Mar 2016 #28
Be interesting to see what the polls say now that there is a nominee. yellowcanine Mar 2016 #29
McConnell should STFU liberalfromaustin21 Mar 2016 #30
No doubt all of 3 people still believe that shit from McTurtle. Rex Mar 2016 #31
Dumb question maybe but........ Takket Mar 2016 #32
The people voices elected Obama not once, but twice. B Calm Mar 2016 #33

still_one

(92,108 posts)
2. His argument, they don't want to politicize it, they just want to make this part of the Presidential
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

election.

ok. I am a little slow, but perhaps someone can explain to me how making the SC nomination part of the Presidential election is NOT political

hmmmmmmmmm

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
14. Plus there is Senate election every two years
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

so we can't have a nomination on any even year.
Or it would be "politicized".

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
3. All McConnell has are spitballs
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

His argument is total BS. If he were honest, he'd admit his partisan motivations.

blm

(113,037 posts)
5. McConnell, sounding rattled, says Presidents must be limited to court picks in first 3 yrs of term.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

If McConnell truly believes this is a case of principle, then he should write the legislation seeking a constitutional amendment that will do what he says must be done.

Presidents shall nominate Supreme Court justices ONLY in their first 3 years of office.

Come on, Mitch - if this is what you and the Senate are demanding then put it up for a vote.

22. Senator McConnell
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016


Mitch McConnell -- the people have already spoken --they have elected President Obama TWICE by overwhelming margins.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
6. McConnell ought to sound rattled.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

He has been leading his party into terribly wrong decisions for quite some time now...and now they are starting to pay for it.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
7. How are they getting away with this?!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

I know the answer - decades of hate radio convincing their people that anything against the Democrats is good.

Solly Mack

(90,761 posts)
9. Let's get ready to rumble
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

We've had the unexpected blessing of a title opening up. We've had the grandiose bellowings from supporters of the former title holder.

Now we have a new contender.






Well, it does sound like a boxing match, sorta.

I've been up all night, so I'm punch drunk.

See what I did there?

I slay me.

I'll shut up now.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
10. I am going to miss
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

President Obama. I appreciate the way he can put the screws to republicans now and again. It is going to be fun to watch the republicans contorted positions on why they will not hold hearings for this SC nominee.

I have never even heard of this judge but apparently he is the least objectionable nominee the President could put forth. Which is going to leave republicans wrestling to find one adult reason or another for not holding a vote on him.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
13. 38% get a D- in Civics.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

The senate is suppose to hold hearings to vet presidential nominations. And then, if they don't like the approved nominee, they can filibuster.

It doesn't say that the senate can refuse to hold hearings if...like for instance, the senate majority leader is a white racist bigot and doesn't like the president is half white.

Mitch McConnell, you are derelict in your duties. Do your job!

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
15. Biden's office has released the following statement:
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/02/22/3752298/no-joe-biden-didnt-say-that-the-senate-should-block-supreme-court-nominees-during-an-election-year/

"Nearly a quarter century ago, in June 1992, I gave a lengthy speech on the Senate floor about a hypothetical vacancy on the Supreme Court. Some critics say that one excerpt of my speech is evidence that I oppose filling a Supreme Court vacancy in an election year. This is not an accurate description of my views on the subject. Indeed, as I conclude in the same statement critics are pointing to today, urged the Senate and White House to work together to overcome partisan differences to ensure the Court functions as the Founding Fathers intended. That remains my position today."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,399 posts)
17. The people decided in 2012
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

that they wanted Barack Obama to fill SCOTUS vacancies for the next 4 years. Not for the next 1, 2, or 3 years but FOUR YEARS! Neither the Constitution nor any law enacted since limits a President's appointments only to non-election years. Also, just because Republicans like to sometimes throw it out there, the 2014 midterms did NOT alter/change anything about President Obama's judicial appointment powers either. Republicans are trying to invent limitations/precedents that simply DO NOT EXIST just to prevent Scalia's replacement on SCOTUS from being one they didn't get to choose (and may not even be able to choose for the next four years either)!

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
19. hmm, seems like we spoke pretty clearly about this in 2012
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:51 PM
Mar 2016

go ahead Mitch, don't do your jobs, see how that plays. Garland's highly qualified, low-key and moderate, so opposing him on the merits will be extremely difficult, but go right ahead. if you're super-lucky and end up with a GOP majority in the senate and a GOP president next year, yeah you could get a conservative nominee. OTOH, if things play out as the odds suggest, expect to be running minority opposition to whomever the Democratic president thinks will be a liberal answer to Scalia.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
21. He really was showing some flop sweat there on the Senate floor.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

Obama has backed these obstructionist assholes into an extremely uncomfortable corner.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
24. THEY DID, you lying POS!!! We the people elected Obama
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

And it is his duty to nominate a scotus. It is YOUR duty to accept or REASONABLY reject a scouts nominee. I really hate the right.....

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
26. It was called the last election, Dickwad.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

Your creepy religious cultist lost, so just shut your damned turtle face and get to work.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
27. I just contacted my Senator re the "Biden" rule.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:47 AM
Mar 2016

After thanking her (Ayotte) for blocking the nominee because he isn't liberal enough for me, I asked her where one might find the "Biden" rule in the Constitution and why this "Biden" rule takes precedence over the Constitution. If you are unlucky enough to have a GOP Senator, maybe you could email and ask why Joe Biden's 14 year old speech is more important than our Constitution.

UTUSN

(70,671 posts)
28. Yet the low information wingnut sheep will believe "the BIDEN rule" is actual *law*.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

By the bye, "low information voters" was originally coined (I think in 2004?) to describe the Faux Propaganda Network demographic, but LIMBOsevic has done his trademarked number of turning language 180, applying it to Libs.

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
29. Be interesting to see what the polls say now that there is a nominee.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

My guess is that even among Republicans there will be more support for holding hearings and even confirming Garland. I suspect Mitch and his No buddies are going to get an earful from the people back home in the coming weeks and months.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. No doubt all of 3 people still believe that shit from McTurtle.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

He should go snort some more coke and get back with us.

Takket

(21,549 posts)
32. Dumb question maybe but........
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

Can the democrats just hold a hearing without the GOP? What's stopping them form just getting a conference room, setting up a table, inviting the media, and asking this guy some questions? Let America hear what this guy has to say. If they don't like him, let America demand a rejection vote. If they don't like him, let America demand an acceptance vote. Doesn't have to be all formal and on the record if not officially called by the chairman of the judiciary committee.

I know they control the Senate but I find it hard to believe no one can even talk to this nominee without the GOP saying its okay.

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