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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat's it. I've cancelled all future recordings on my DVR of the Rachel Maddow Show.
Last edited Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:58 PM - Edit history (1)
I won't watch another show. Bye bye. POOF!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)And the rest of the MSM acts like he does not exist any longer.
Rockyj
(538 posts)Look what its done to too ,any politicians in the Democratic Party!
YES EVEN OBAMA!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)so what were you agreeing with?
something that is only true in your own mind, but not in the outside world?
GP6971
(31,100 posts)what happened?
UTUSN
(70,638 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)They were told weeks ago, no more Bernie. So they do not pass on ANY opportunity to slam him.
It's just more of the 1% buying the media. The establishment has spoken. Hell, we should be use to this treatment by now.
LiberalFighter
(50,751 posts)Are you sure you are watching her? Just saw a bit at the end about Sanders going after automatic delegates to switch.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i'll have to make a note of the fact that you post false things.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Back then not only was she informative, smart and funny but she was cool. She isn't anymore.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)Those AAR days...she was reduced to that 6AM slot. She had been my favorite.
The same with Sam Seder who was reduced to a Sunday afternoon slot.
The AAR days were so important to me then. They were a raft in an ocean of madness.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)Oh but for the good old days.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)Randi Rhodes is working on doing one of her own. I gave money to the start up, and it will happen soon.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)The hosts did not fail.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)its too bad it folded.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Maron has gone on to a great career, but this show was the funniest radio I've ever heard. News reports from Planet Bush, Sammy the Stem Cell, Rapture Watch. I may never laugh at obituaries again....
http://www.morningseditionists.com/msarchive/
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)out of hearing Clinton supporters calling propaganda 'reality'.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)you guys would certainly know a lot about that. You have all the right wing talking points down when it comes to Clinton.
Response to SFnomad (Reply #74)
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7962
(11,841 posts)Like a bunch of parrots. I get it EVERY time i say anything critical of her
TM99
(8,352 posts)as New Dems are what we used to call right wing 40 years ago!!
7962
(11,841 posts)It wasnt rude, insulting, over-the-top, etc.
But still gets hidden
I imagine mine was also alerted on but somehow survived
mariawr
(348 posts)hibbing
(10,092 posts)Person you are responding to as a newbie has been a member 4 years longer than you. A low post count does not always indicate a newbie, have fun.
Peace
TM99
(8,352 posts)I had an another account under a different email address and rarely if ever posted.
I have also notice lots of low count posters with account from 2008 that have woken up like zombies. Coincidence?
hibbing
(10,092 posts)Like I said, have fun.
Peace
ahimsa
(426 posts)mucifer
(23,463 posts)and much further to the right than President Obama, I get worried:
https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview/democratic-foreign-policy-in-the-2016-presidential-race/2f25961d-d547-404b-9d4c-6b6c74a0817d
Rachel used to give a damn. Hell, she was a member of Act Up when she was young.
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... what Money and Access do ...
... when they're tied together ...
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)..it does get rather embarrassing. With the Clintons, follow the money and you will find the truth.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Knock yourself out.
brush
(53,724 posts)Why is she still on that network once it ditched all the progressive on-air hosts, shifted hard to the rignt and went nearly 24/7 Trump?
paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)brush
(53,724 posts)Guess they must have sweetened her deal to get her to stay as if she isn't already banking huge checks and should have a large cushion until another opportunity comes along.
What happened to her progressive principles to just sit there and give neo-fascist Trump a platform for the last several month?
agracie
(950 posts)Skittles
(153,103 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)but we are all banned from their posts?
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,220 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)like when she aired his rebuttal to trump + extra few minutes of his stump speech for no apparent reason.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)I didn't realize how far gone they were until recently. Not missing it. Had cnn on for a few last night then turned it off too.
Had to go to the internet for bernies speech.
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)merrifield
(73 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)RT TV with Thom Hartmann and other progressive voices.
MADem
(135,425 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/sara-firth-resigns-russia-today-lies-anchor_n_5598815.html
The creator of RT recently ended up dead in DC in a Dupont Circle hotel. RT said he died of a heart attack. Turned out he was beaten to death.
What's up with that?
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)so they are giving us a platform that MSM denies us.
So they are useful. Like everything, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater........
LittleGirl
(8,277 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)and DW on the free Nowhere TV Roku app.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Love WTH's..
elmac
(4,642 posts)just watch my local air TV, watch big ed on RT and listen to Thom Hartman during the day.
JEB
(4,748 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)But when she went to the Corp-Media I knew it would be the test. She sold us out.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)I just now did the same.
I hope others join us and send MSNBC a few choice words.
http://www.msnbc.com/contact
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)How did a Rhodes scholar betray the journalistic profession so blatantly? I fully expected that she'd have enough integrity to stare down any bosses who ordered her to shill for HRC. I was dead wrong. Such a shame! She was my favorite!
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)mucifer
(23,463 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Tomorrow, I intend to leave it on and note how many minutes MSNBC gives to Trump coverage.
We may have seen a change in their broadcast pattern.
Trump 24/7 drove me away for a while. I went back to see how the cover Yesterday's election.
I think it is odd. I see no reason to toss people I respect under the buss because they don't agree with me.
Opinion may vary.
babylonsister
(171,026 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Just re-adjust. Cut the cord. That is the only way to hurt them. I have ads now on my Roku for HBO for 20.00 a month. You had to have a 100.00 a month basic cable account to then purchase HBO. Such shit. Now I see ESPN selling their channel....on and on. Start streaming and get an HD antenna for regular broadcast TV.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Why pay $180 a month to watch about 4 channels. And on Roku, I can get Amy Goodman and Thom Hartman. And I can add HBO and Showtime for 1/4 of what I was paying.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)I can baby step down and still get the local channels for $33 a month and let Roku do the rest.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Also discovered channel pear that allows you to add channels to your Roku. 24/7 south park or simpson's and other shows. Along with MSNBC when the server is good. All for free. I used to watch a lot of MSNBC but now I watch South Park. Much better for my blood pressure. We pay $50.00 for internet from a local company and $7.99 for Netflix.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I used to watch her every night, and loved it. I quit watching when she started getting that Chris Mathews tingly feeling, running down her leg for everything Obama did.
In fact, Monday, I chucked cable completely. I had to pay too much money to watch this shit.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)and for the same reasons you mention. I did see her for a couple minutes while channel surfing and thought she seemed giddy, giggly, goofy and really over the top. Not sure what that was all about. Perhaps Tweety's obnoxious mannerisms are rubbing off on her.
PSPS
(13,574 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,258 posts)Why should we care what you record? It doesn't involve anything important enough for you to bother to tell us why. I'm not aware that you've been annoying us with too many posts about her show, so it will make no difference to us whether you watch it or not.
valerief
(53,235 posts)What would possess you post such a comment? Oh, yeah, why anyone posts anything here. But only YOUR opinion matters, I guess.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,258 posts)whereas BigBearJohn just blurts out his DVR schedule without giving any clues why he does what he does, or why we should care. My advice makes for a more interesting DU; his doesn't. He didn't actually give an 'opinion'.
valerief
(53,235 posts)I don't care.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)lines.
valerief
(53,235 posts)primary candidate there, the post gets locked. I'm sure the same rule holds for non-Democratic candidate TV hosts.
I was locked for posting in GDP about an asshole GOP candidate during one of their asshole GOP debates.
trueblue2007
(17,186 posts)kinda for me, i don't care what you watch.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)I don't understand the point of your post.
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Might I ask for a synopsis of what happened tonight?
riversedge
(70,021 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Whoever in his campaign decided to talk about flipping superdelegates is an idiot.
I still am reluctantly backing away from Rachel, though.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...brought that up last night. She was sitting in on their conversation post mortem. I have forgotten her name.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Will she ever learn?
BainsBane
(53,010 posts)Math.
riversedge
(70,021 posts)riversedge
(70,021 posts)ALBliberal
(2,333 posts)Randi Rhodes always brought them in to her show giving them air time. And Keith Olbermann gave Rachel her start at MSNBC as I recall. I preached to my millennial kids how Rachel was IT. The go to girl in pure journalism. My middle daughter had her pod cast! Just a let down. Keith is without a job Randi is somewhere in S. America. But they never gave up their convictions. Honestly hard to listen to Stephanie Miller anymore. Oh and Ed out on RT! Miss him! Oh well maybe there will be a realignment in media.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donahue_%282002_TV_series%29
Wow, links have died but I found this.
http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-February/005865.html
While "Donahue" does badly trail both O'Reilly and CNN's Connie Chung in the ratings, those numbers have improved in recent weeks. So much so that the program is the top-rated show on MSNBC, beating even the highly promoted "Hardball With Chris Matthews."
Although Donahue didn't know it at the time, his fate was sealed a number of weeks ago after NBC News executives received the results of a study commissioned to provide guidance on the future of the news channel.
That report--shared with me by an NBC news insider--gives an excruciatingly painful assessment of the channel and its programming. Some of recommendations, such as dropping the "America's News Channel," have already been implemented. But the harshest criticism was leveled at Donahue, whom the authors of the study described as "a tired, left-wing liberal out of touch with the current marketplace."
The study went on to claim that Donahue presented a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war......He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives." The report went on to outline a possible nightmare scenario where the show becomes "a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity."
A source close to Donahue claims that while he wasn't aware of the specific study, the tone and outcome aren't surprising.
"It's not a coincidence that this decision comes the same week that MSNBC announces its hired Dick Armey as a commentator and has both Jesse Ventura and Michael Savage joining the network as hosts. They're scared, and they decided to take the coward's road and slant towards the conservative crowd that watch Fox News."
StandingInLeftField
(972 posts)Evidently that "guidance study" was the beginning of the end for any semblance of sanity and fairness at M$NBC.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)It's about profits, and pleasing the extremely wealthy bosses at the top, as well as the larger corporations that "own the news", and who have an agenda.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)when she went after Obama for something. that and MSNBC killed the podcast , but I still have my Bitters
Javaman
(62,493 posts)I gave her up months ago.
Listen to Democracy Now! You will be better for it.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)for a week and half, when protestors were being arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge. And she was always dismissive of them thereafter.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)Randi Rhodes will be coming back on the radio or VIA podcast soon.
Maybe people will like to tune in there.
https://randirhodes.com
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)She had a hard time voting in FL...she was told she was "purged" in 2011 but yet she voted in 2012.
How many thousands had the same in FL, NC, etc.?
https://mobile.twitter.com/randiradio/tweets
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)That's what happens in southern states.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)You are free of corporate media. It feels good doesn't it?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Her shilling made me want to puke...what a sell out.
...she and the channel are dead to me.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)Not debates, not State of the Union messages, not political talk shows.
Reading about them is bad enough.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Respect for holding out so long.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Today I unfriended all MSNBC from FB. MSM has a lot to answer for in the current election cycle.
shireen
(8,333 posts)I erased it last week. I'm done too. And disappointed.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm not a fan or not-fan of Rachel, I just can't imagine devoting DVR hard drive space to a nightly news segment.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Juvenile theatrical flouncing about won't change anything, but .... one hopes it helps dull the emptiness and pain of losing.
I shall never -- absolutely never I say-- darken your establishment's portal with my custom, good sir! Henceforth thou shalt find me at CNN!
Just lol. I'm sure Rachel will do a 45 minute interview with Bernie to get you back.
I recommend drinking instead of stewing in it online.
If you have any reading comprehension skills whatsoever, you'll note these posters appear to be dropping MSM altogether, so they won't be frequenting the likes of CNN.
Rachel is symptomatic of what has happened since Comcast bought MSNBC. Rachel has made her choice. Other journalists have made their choice, too, and chose principle over this particular employer.
I have friends who have had to leave since the Comcast takeover. I know their stories and the callous way they were treated. It is Comcast's loss.
You trivialize. This is a far bigger issue than your post portrays.
Cher
basselope
(2,565 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)but Rachel is still A1.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Holds fundraisers for Hillary. Turn that shit off.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)I missed Keith Olbermann amd she was a poor substitute.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)To zap the 40 minutes of commercials!
I time shift everything.
840high
(17,196 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)elleng
(130,680 posts)with quick breaks back, so almost-poof.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)All self interested fluff. Tried to make monotony exciting and fails. Never touches the real problems like mass incarceration. Doesn't matter what your issues are if you're in jail where you have no rights. And wiretapping illegally used by law enforcement where they lie to judges about it. And using wiretapping to leverage politicians, journalists, activists, judges, attorneys and reps...threaten them with releasing personal info or borderline criminality and you can assure they they can elicit any outcome they wish. The national security establishment is in charge so don't kid yourselves. And Hillary is their lapdog
whathehell
(29,025 posts)Went and held town hall there with residents and televised it
Last year she was awarded honor from NAAACP for her work on Emergency Management government takeover in Michigan
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And if it's Hillary we all know she is an opportunist who disappears on the issue once the cameras are gone. Even most republicans are aghast at what happened in Flint. Saying you're courageous because you supported not poisoning the water is a real joke. A big joke. It's like saying I'm for the children. Really? We have two million people incarcerated in this country. Way more per capita than any dictatorship. How do you rationalize this? How do you pretend we are a decent country with decent leaders? Usually one measures how evil a country is by how many people are in work camps or prisons. That's the barometer we used for former communist countries. This has really opened my eyes to how he German people accepted fascism and Hitler from 1922-1945. 23 years it took those frogs to boil. We are very similar here. And two million in prison means 4 million children with broken families too. And you want me to think Hillary is some kind of hero? You have a lot of nerve I will say that.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)That's it. I've cancelled all future recordings on my DVR of the Rachel Maddow Show.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027690176
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This belongs in GD: P. This entire thread exists because Rachel called Hillary Clinton the likely Democratic Nominee in a discussion with a guest regarding the Supreme Court. She then did a segment simply talking about the Sanders campaign team talking about how they plan to win, which involves Super Delegates. She contrasted it with the campaigns previous statement on that issue.
This, apparently, has caused this member to throw a hissy fit. That's fine. That's their right. However, this belongs in GD: P.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:32 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I totally get why this was alerted on. But the OP does not explicitly mention the primary or why they are not watching Rachel any more. Clearly that is how people are taking it though, and the thread reads like a GDP thread, even if the OP does not. But this should have been a SOP alert, not that it is over the top. Even then, it would straddle the line. Seems to me ties go to the runner, or in this case the poster, so I vote to leave. But if I start seeing a lot of this sort of thing, maybe I won't be so forgiving in the future. The Admins made a concerted effort to clean up the front page of primary acrimony and we should respect that.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The "hissy fit" accusation is bullshit. LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Utter nonsense of an alert. I guess Hill's alert stalkers don't care about the new found amnesty. Still sending joke alerts like this. If this isn't GDP, send it to the hosts or a TOS alert.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter needs to get a life.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Seriously, WHO alerted on this? Fess up...
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)The Far Left
(59 posts)PFunk1
(185 posts)their's too much other stuff on it to (for me) just ditch. Still everyone on that channel-even Chris has gone corp for a while now.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)And Clinton supporters wonder why Sanders and Warren supporters are so upset. If you are a Democrat and you are NOT upset about the corruption that has taken control of our party, then you are simply burying in your head in the sand so that you hear only what you want to hear.
Hillary's BFF Wasserman Schultz has sided with the GOP on payday lending. I am waiting for Hillary to come out and say if she she disagrees with her BFF Wasserman Schultz's support of payday lenders and Wasserman Schultz's tireless work to gut new rules intended to rein in predatory payday lending. Wasserman Schultz is getting tremendous flack from Democrats for siding with the GOP on this! These predatory practices need to be stopped asap. Preying on the poor is shameful to say the least. This one of the last things I thought the DNC chairman would ever support! Will Hillary support her BFF Wasserman Schultz on this or not? Long before this overtly anti-Democratic posturing by Wasserman Schultz petitions have been circulating demand she resign as DNC chair for many reasons.
Remember Hillary's gratuitous self-pitying comment about being 'dead broke"! Turns out in 1999, they bought a five-bedroom home in Chappaqua, N.Y., for $1.7 million. In December 2000, just as they were leaving the White House, they bought a seven-bedroom house near Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. The price was $2.85 million. It was, is, and always will be about her. She knew very well of the millions and millions she and Bill could and did make in speeches and numerous other activities. The "dead broke" comment, unbeknownst to her, gave us a look into her true character. She had no concept, no depth, of what that comment in just a few words revealed to us all about her and her core values.
Hillary once said she had a lot of work to do with Independents. She is blissfully unaware of what she has done to Democrats. Many are like me- having voted straight Democrat for many, many decades.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)You seriously and very obviously insist on ignoring very serious issues! Typical!
BTW, what color is the sky in your world?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)stuff that has no chance of passing. That's no better than the GOPers.
marew
(1,588 posts)Robert Browning wrote: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp or what's a heaven for."
So we should never aspire to be better or do better! Got it! The quality of life in the US has been declining in the US for decades and that is hunky dory with you. Take the crumbs the billionaires and the corporate elite throw at you! The oligarchy reigns supreme! With an attitude like yours, nothing will change.
We who so actively seek change certainly will not get everything we want, but, I assure you, we would make more progress than people with your reasoning ever could. Any serious student of history knows that very well.
It is a good thing you were not around during revolutionary times- we'd still be under the rule of the UK!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:51 PM - Edit history (1)
nothing in today's political reality.
The irony is that had we remained under UK control -- we'd have all the stuff you want, single payer healthcare, education, a better welfare system, higher taxes. etc. Now, we are going to have to compromise to get there. I think by settling we'll get there faster than by ranting and pouting if we don't get our way.
I'm not much on the founding fathers, almost all of them were racists who'd go home, after speaking/writing of liberty and such, and rape/beat their slaves.
marew
(1,588 posts)"I'm not much on the Founding Fathers" Wow! That's an understatement! Of course not all were saints but your blanket condemnation of the majority of the Founding Fathers is beyond bizarre!
"by ranting an pouting" Really? Your projecting is really getting into lala land. No wonder you cannot comprehend the idea of serious political discourse.
You statement "The irony is that had we remained under UK control -- we'd have all the stuff you want" shows precisely how you have absolutely no knowledge of what was really going on at that time and why so many early Americans gave their lives. In your eyes they were wasting their lives! So, in your opinion, we should, without question or complaint, have tolerated what we were experiencing and simply hoped for a better day!
You have revised American history like no one I know ever has. No wonder you are in a state of perpetual confusion!
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
― Edmund Burke
See ya!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)You obviously have a reading and comprehension problem. I suggest reading in chunks of information and in the context of previous posts, including your own, without pointing at each word and mouthing the words.
You already admitted you know little about the Founding Fathers yet you profoundly defend your ignorance! And you stand by your contention that our Founding Fathers and Revolutionary War heroes were despicable human beings! How charming!
By the way, my great, great grandfather, fighting for the Union was severely wounded on the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg, 7/1/1863, and was subsequently discharged due to the extensive nature of his injuries. No one in my family ever supported the Confederacy! Talk about giant leaps! LOL!
As someone who has completed post Masters Degree level work (completed grad school on a full Fellowship at a major University with honors) published several well received articles and has written hundreds of well received diagnostic reports containing recommendations that were shared with PH.D and M.D. professionals, may I humbly suggest I am not the one with reading and comprehension problems!
If ignorance is bliss, you must be completely blissed out!
You are a hoot!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)was downright abusive. All that liberty and freedom bull applied to white guys trying to pad their bank account. And we haven't even gotten into what they did to Native Americans. You probably think Christopher Columbus was a saint, as well.
Get over yourself!
I never defended them. Who has SEVERE comprehension issues? I simply stated that all the Founding Fathers were not all the monsters you claim them to be- even after you admitted you knew very little about them!
Lincoln's opinion:
The founding fathers, said Lincoln, had opposed slavery. They adopted a Declaration of Independence that pronounced all men created equal. They enacted the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 banning slavery from the vast Northwest Territory. To be sure, many of the founders owned slaves. But they asserted their hostility to slavery in principle while tolerating it temporarily in practice. That was why they did not mention the words "slave" or "slavery" in the Constitution, but referred only to "persons held to service." "Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution," said Lincoln, "just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time." The first step was to prevent the spread of this cancer, which the fathers took with the Northwest Ordinance, the prohibition of the African slave trade in 1807, and the Missouri Compromise restriction of 1820. The second was to begin a process of gradual emancipation, which the generation of the fathers had accomplished in the states north of Maryland.
I bet you think Lincoln was rotten too!
What the Founders Said About Slavery
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/slavery.html
Read the following! I dare you!
http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=122
I am sure you won't- you would never seek out truth! You are way too comfortable in your imaginary little world!
Never let facts get in you way!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Heck, the original Constitution as written by those folks didn't even consider slaves human -- hence three-fifths clause.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)As a matter of fact, I've completely stopped watching MSM "news" altogether. Their agendas have made them irrelevant.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I watch what I watch on the internet. I used to watch Keith Olbermann faithfully, then he suddenly resigned. So I watched Rachel when I could. Sometimes MSNBC made it a bit tricky for those of us not on the standard system. But I watched her. About two years ago I started noticing that she was unreliable and pushing an odd agenda. It's probably been six months or more since I watched her regularly.
I really miss her, because she so often does such a good job of explicating a complex issue. But still, her -- or more likely her masters -- bias has become more and more evident.
These days I wake up every morning to Amy Goodman. She has her own sometimes odd biases, but I find it easy them out. Before and after her my local community radio station carries the BBC. I'm probably better informed than most people out there.
I also read the local newspaper, so I'm pretty up on local issues.
Back in the 1970s, another period in my life when I didn't have TV, a good friend of mine was honestly concerned that I wasn't up on the issues and events of the day. So he'd periodically quiz me, and was always astonished that I knew exactly what was going on. And this in the days before the internet. Back then I listened to NPR, and I read books. Yes, books. So I was much better informed on all sorts of things than most people.
So it is today. I listen to certain radio programs (BBC, Amy Goodman, Terry Gross, and sometimes Diane Rehm) and I read lots of books on all sorts of topics. Plus, of course, the internet. While my specific opinions can be subject to disagreement, my level of knowledge I'll hold up to anyone.
Oh, and I tend to do extremely well in Trivia contests.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)You can hide her, but you can't suspend her. The rest of us still get to listen and she still gets to discuss stuff. Real world usually works that way.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)what they really meant was that the Establishment would consider Hillary Clinton the presumptive nominee, there would be no more coverage for challenger Bernie Sanders and no more debates. The General Election has started so everyone should just pretend Bernie Sanders faded away.
Is that why they didn't cover Sanders' speech Tuesday?
So the Establishment has spoken and thus Bernie's coverage has ended....
And the most amazing part is -- these people don't even try to hide it.
Sam
Iggo
(47,534 posts)ecstatic
(32,641 posts)I'm assuming that's why you're mad, correct? You're mad because she's reporting news?
lamp_shade
(14,813 posts)Why is that?
Somebody? Anybody?
whathehell
(29,025 posts)about that myself.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)to interpret numbers, said something to the effect of 'there is no easy/possible path for victory for Bernie', much like the 538 folks or the vox.com folks.
lamp_shade
(14,813 posts)GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)it's that fucking theme song they play ALL the time like every story is some epic
earth shattering event.
She had a good story on republican delegates from the Virgin Islands last night.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Her calling Hillary's "I misspoke....I meant stem cell and Alzheimer's as a refreshing apology had to have been the final straw for many others though.
Besides, she's boring, repetitive and condescending.
marew
(1,588 posts)I also had her on auto record!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)BTW, GDP
ananda
(28,828 posts).. supported by so much corporate power.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)clearly, openly, and brazenly part of the Establishment.
I still am sad about it all really. I am still shocked by it, but I fully expect that feeling won't last too much longer. She's blatantly working for Establishment interests now.
prairierose
(2,145 posts)months ago..too much drumpf and HRC cheerleading...and almost no Bernie.
Orrex
(63,159 posts)If not, then your boycott will have zero impact on Maddow or on the network.
Kudos for your decisiveness though.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)That is not a Left Leaning organization, and it just shows that all Media, in the hands of the Corporations, are really Republican leaning. I won't watch it any longer.
brooklynite
(94,286 posts)BTW - was there a need to post this "news" with all the detail of a Donald Trump tweet?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)John Lewis, Planned Parenthood and now Maddow.
"Who will rid us of these troublesome priests...?"
sendero
(28,552 posts).. I watch on the MSM would fit inside a norovirus. All about as complete and objective as an ambulance-chasing lawyer.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)They have become little more than a propaganda channel for Hillary and Trump!
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Just about every Dem I know has done the same.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Just found out. No link yet!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,314 posts)No, I'll probably keep recording. What else would I watch? Hannity?