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imanamerican63

(13,776 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:59 PM Mar 2016

If this doesn't beat all?

Last edited Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:18 PM - Edit history (1)

The gunman that shot U.S. Rep. Giffords in 2011, is now suing her for$25 million dollars due to mental distress! Utterly amazing! I don't know where to start with that is wrong with this!

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If this doesn't beat all? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Mar 2016 OP
Only in America liberal N proud Mar 2016 #1
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. elleng Mar 2016 #2
That may be coming to an end. HassleCat Mar 2016 #6
Was that law inspired by Orly Taitz? csziggy Mar 2016 #8
Except for the gun companies... You can't sue them. Agschmid Mar 2016 #17
You can file a complaint, elleng Mar 2016 #18
Like that's going to get anywhere.....nt 2naSalit Mar 2016 #3
I know, but.... imanamerican63 Mar 2016 #4
It is. Wonder where his attorney came from to pose a case like that...nt 2naSalit Mar 2016 #5
My mother just said the same thing! imanamerican63 Mar 2016 #7
Exactly. 2naSalit Mar 2016 #9
Just one state over! EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #10
... 2naSalit Mar 2016 #15
Saul? NV Whino Mar 2016 #12
... 2naSalit Mar 2016 #16
does he have one? treestar Mar 2016 #19
very good point 2naSalit Mar 2016 #21
Yes. And when you run across pleading like this in the legal system treestar Mar 2016 #22
The process, to these 2naSalit Mar 2016 #23
Maybe he's trying to get his conviction thrown out because of mental defect csziggy Mar 2016 #11
Is the NRA paying for his attorneys? world wide wally Mar 2016 #13
A very good question! imanamerican63 Mar 2016 #14
Very doubtful he even has an attorney. COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #24
He should be suing the gun manufacturer, NRA, etc., for making him think it's OK to kill people. Hoyt Mar 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #25
Has anyone stopped to consider how the gun feels in all of this? Orrex Mar 2016 #26
Arizona gunman's lawsuit vs Gabby Giffords may be hoax: report Eugene Mar 2016 #27

elleng

(130,865 posts)
2. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

The test of a society is how it deals with such, whether the system resolves foolishness fairly and quickly.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
6. That may be coming to an end.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

California has a law allowing them to designate someone a "vexatious litigant" if they are serial filers of nuisance lawsuits.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. Was that law inspired by Orly Taitz?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:09 PM
Mar 2016

Because she sure deserves to be called "vexatious litigant" among other things.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
18. You can file a complaint,
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

and a court will determine whether or not there is a justiciable case or controversy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. does he have one?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016

Looking at post 11 below, if those are quotes from the lawsuit, they sound like something a litigant representing themselves would write.

looked at the link, he filed it himself.

2naSalit

(86,534 posts)
21. very good point
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

I saw that post when looking at responses to mine. I have to agree with you there. I have a brother who is "not right in the head" and when he was being divorced by his ex-wife, he made the case drag on for years by insisting that he defend himself and all documents submitted by him were all hand written. He refused an attorney and made out outrageous and unrealistic claims and demands. I was amazed that he wasn't hospitalized at some point during the many years it took my poor ex-SIL to endure this BS after the seven years she endured his abuse.

This stuff in the lawsuit, looks like the kind of bizarre rubbish that my brother would come up with.

Laughner's in a mental health facility, right?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. Yes. And when you run across pleading like this in the legal system
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:31 PM
Mar 2016

you usually are dealing with a crazy person who thinks the courts are there to handle their complaints against life in general and provide what they see as justice. They've no idea of the fact that a "cause of action" in law has to be pleaded.

2naSalit

(86,534 posts)
23. The process, to these
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

types, would be merely a suggestion which the urgency of their concerns automatically supersedes.

I've witnessed far too many examples of this in my life, it's not hard to recognize.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. Maybe he's trying to get his conviction thrown out because of mental defect
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

Because the claims in this lawsuit pretty much seem to prove that he is crazy as a loon (no insult intended to loons):

According to a note on the filling, the lawsuit could be thrown out because it does not follow proper form.

Some of the claims in the lawsuit include:
• Loughner is innocent and was hand-picked to be an assassin.
• Giffords was never shot and learned to act the part by watching Ronald Reagan movies.
• Loughner is being waterboarded every day by agents from the NSA, CIA and ATF.
• Microchips have been placed in his head and he is the victim of a worldwide conspiracy.
• Giffords is part of the Illuminati, a supposed secret organization of the most powerful people in the world.
• Loughner is being targeted with chemtrails, which have made him sick and delusional.
• Giffords help set up rancher Cliven Bundy.
• Mark Kelly, Giffords' husband and a former American astronaut, planted illegal spy equipment in the skies to spy on Americans.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/31550031/loughner-suing-giffords-for-emotional-psychological-distress

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
24. Very doubtful he even has an attorney.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

He's probderably filing suit for himself, pro se. It's allowed under cdrtain circumstances.

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Orrex

(63,201 posts)
26. Has anyone stopped to consider how the gun feels in all of this?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:24 AM
Mar 2016

As always, the guns are the real victims, and we must work tirelessly to ensure that their rights are protected.

Eugene

(61,872 posts)
27. Arizona gunman's lawsuit vs Gabby Giffords may be hoax: report
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

Source: Reuters

World | Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:39pm EDT

Arizona gunman's lawsuit vs Gabby Giffords may be hoax: report

BY AMY TENNERY

A bizarre lawsuit purportedly filed by the gunman in the 2011 mass shooting in Arizona that critically injured U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords may be a hoax, an Arizona news website reported on Thursday.

The lawsuit was filed March 18 in federal court in Arizona naming the plaintiff as Jared Lee Loughner, the gunman who pleaded guilty to killing six people in a rampage at a Tucson supermarket. The suit's demand for $25 million in damages from Giffords for causing emotional and psychological distress instantly prompted a storm of reaction online and in social media.

Local news website Tucson News Now revealed Thursday that the document, which claims that Loughner is innocent, is being imprisoned illegally and is being controlled by the government, may in fact have been filed as a hoax.

Tucson News Now reported that the Loughner lawsuit has a note in the filing that says it could be thrown out because it does not follow proper form.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arizona-loughner-idUSKCN0WQ1VH
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