Manufactured Consent-Lie about polls, steal the election, cover it up-What the media is paid to do!

[We Want Peace]

And the Koch brothers paid heavily for this.

Ask yourself- who does the media work for?

Why should we believe anything they say?

Are we really going to let them steal this election for the fascists?

[rainy]

1. you go it!!!!

[shcrane71]

2. Yep... How can excit polls be 50/50 yet Walker wins by 22 points?

Smells fishy. I'm not buying it.

[ananda]

9. Walker actually won by 7 points..

.. and I don't trust that margin either.

It doesn't pass the smell test, but what
does in red states where the media and
power structure are set to destroy unions.

Texas has been an anti-union state since I
can remember, and its redness and level
of ignorance and meanspiritedness in government
and the hate fillled fundies and teabaggers is horrendous.

Looks like Wisconsin has drunk that water too.

[libtodeath]

12. Me neither but was told here that there was no chance it was stolen

bullshit.

[We Want Peace]

14. lots of people so anxious to push that idea, no way was it stolen

Corporate polls told us Walker would win, Koch paid the corporate media a fortune, they called the election early for Walker...but there is just no chance it was stolen, 'just trust them'

[shcrane71]

16. Oh I know... I wonder if the people saying that are getting a kick back.

Since I haven't been paid off, I'm still going to say what everyone's thinking, "This smells fishy."

[We Want Peace]

21. If Koch can afford to pay off the corporate media, and pay someone to flip some numbers

they can certainly afford a few paid propagandists

[shcrane71]

22. Yep.

[valerief]

3. In a month, Bradblog will have stories with hard evidence of vote flipping (that's what all

the money pays for, after all), but nothing will be done about it.

Same shit, different day. We are the U.S.S.A. Just another police state.

[We Want Peace]

4. I can't believe that Wisconsin activists are really going to believe this bullshit!

n/t

[We Want Peace]

5. There sure are a lot of talking points and people helping with manufacturing consent

it is almost as if someone put out a list...

'It's obama's fault'

'people are stupid'

'Wisconsin has all paper ballots'

but they are counted on machines that can be easily manipulated!!!

[We Want Peace]

6. Koch infiltrators have won- Democrats are silenced on obvious election fraud

they must be so happy

now onto the nation!!

[badtoworse]

7. Your response is one reason we keep losing

The election wasn't stolen. You can maybe flip enough votes to steal a close election, but Barret was trounced by about 200,000 votes and that is not close.

The cost of benefits to public sector workers is becoming an increasingly important issue with voters. Failing to recognize that and deal with it is only going to cost more elections in the future.

[KurtNYC]

8. +1

We were out messaged. There was no theft at the ballot box. We need to fix what is wrong; not start a snipe hunt.

[We Want Peace]

10. good one- let's just get out the vote and watch them steal the entire country

how do you know there was no theft at the ballot box?

[KurtNYC]

18. I have a background in statistics and data modeling

The results of this vote fit with 2010 and it wasn't close enough to steal.

[We Want Peace]

11. they used to central tabulator to flip the vote, this would take 5 minutes -google hack the vote

most likely Barrett actually won by 200,000

[GarroHorus]

13. That is outright absurd.

Even suggesting such a thing gets into birther/truther/faked the moon landings territory.

[badtoworse]

15. Do you have any evidence?

If you don't, you are just posting delusional blather.

[We Want Peace]

19. do you have evidence it was a fair election?

If you don't, you just mindlessly catapult propaganda for fascists


http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/US-e-voting-system-cracked-in-less-than-48-hours-1463881.html

[badtoworse]

20. There were DOJ representatives monitoring the election...

... and representatives of both parties monitoring the counting of the votes. If 200,000 votes were flipped, someone would have noticed.

No one who actually participated in the election has alleged fraud. If and when that happens, I'll start giving the possibility some credence, but until then, it's pure speculation.

[GarroHorus]

25. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Okay, now prove Obama DIDN'T fake his own birth certificate!!!!

You've got Birther logic down pat!

[Ellipsis]

26. Is your wife still beating you?

[PeaceNikki]

23. yup. How many people said, "fuck it, it's all rigged anyway" and didn't bother?

I am very suspicious of those who scream fraud with no evidence.

We should have a healthy mix of trust and distrust in the system and be careful/responsible about how we investigate, monitor and communicate such things.

[badtoworse]

24. I believe you are well informed about the WI electoral process

IRC, you participated in last year's recount and posted extensively about it, so I would say you have an informed opinion. What do you think about the claims of a stolen election that many on DU are making?

[slackmaster]

17. Actually, the media make money by selling advertising

They whip up business by generating "buzz" by any means they can think of.