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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlmost forgot to remind everyone of an important anniversary....
March 26th 1979 was the signing of the peace treaty negotiated by Jimmy Carter between Egypt and Israel that has held to this very day.
I was reminded when I found my old bronze commemorative coin.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,517 posts)That was so long ago...
It almost seems as though it hadn't happened.
*sigh*
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)I find it difficult to remember important times that, at least, made peace a possibility...
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)later that year and the hostage rescue failure sealed his fate for re-election.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)We need more of that stuff to go around.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)K&R Thanks for remembering, Spitfire.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)And not a single soldier died in combat during his Presidency. Wotta wimp!
malaise
(268,693 posts)for Jimmy Carter
lastlib
(23,152 posts)...ADDED TOGETHER wouldn't have Jimmy Carter's class, grace, and humanity! Hell, you'd still have room for their VP candidates too!
forest444
(5,902 posts)Carter's approval ratings, which had declined steadily from this first summer in office (mainly due to the Panama Canal Treaty), bounced back in late 1978 and early 1979 and as the Egypt-Israeli Peace Treaty materialized. This made the pundits, which had largely written Carter's reelection chances off, reconsider.
That's when Bush allegedly used his many CIA contacts to make an arrangement with Amerada Hess, which at the time owned the largest refinery in the non-Communist world (in the Virgin Islands). Hess announced an unscheduled and near-total shutdown of its refinery, triggering a domino effect that led to the infamous gas shortages in the first week of May 1979.
These shortages, of course, doomed Carter's reelection chances. Bush declared his candidacy for President the very same week.
senz
(11,945 posts)It felt like something was going on behind the scenes, and of course we later learned that Bush is suspected to have played a part in delaying the hostage release, but this, so devious -- well, now it seems much more plausible, even normal, after all we've learned since then.
The Bushes do not play even remotely fair; they treat the electoral process like a game. And to think: the Clintons are good friends with them.
Poor Carter, so well-meaning. Thanks for remembering and sharing this.
forest444
(5,902 posts)The Carter White House was able to put the kibosh on that scheme by suing the Society of Independent Gasoline Marketers of America (of which Hess was the leading member) for conniving to not only shut down refinery output, but to illegally stockpile the gas itself as well.
The political damage was done though (to this day, whenever you mention Carter most Republicans will spit back: "gas lines!" . The suit was still ongoing, bogged down in the courts, when Reagan withdrew it shortly after taking office.
senz
(11,945 posts)They also disliked Carter because he made peace and didn't swagger. There's a huge "little boy" contingent in the Republican party.
Bernie's a much of a peacenik as Carter, but I have a feeling he could talk back to them more assertively if they started in on his opposition to U.S. hegemony abroad.
forest444
(5,902 posts)beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)He looked square into the camera and said, "I will never lie to you." And he meant it. There was a genuine quality to him, much like Bernie today. The election was close and he beat Ford, who was a place holder after Nixon. Unfortunately, the Reagan revolution began only 6 years after Watergate.
Republicans were mad as hell after Watergate, and sometimes it looks like many are STILL trying to seek revenge for that.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)If only the country had listened to him.
Rhiannon12866
(204,740 posts)I'm currently listening to the audio book of President Carter's autobiography, "A Full Life," read by the author himself and recommend it highly! It certainly has been! It's fascinating, from his childhood in rural Georgia to his Navy career, to his first campaigns for elective office. I think I'm on disc #5 and he's just become president, LOL. There is so much that I never knew, good and bad, but it's certainly never dull, and his determination is extraordinary!
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)thanks for the reminder
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Peace to All!
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)the right went to war against him - bush worked with his Saudi friends were behind the oil price increase and the right coordinated with the federal reserve and drove up interest rates
to ensure victory bush arranged for the hostages to be held until raygun was in power
and - they have continued to denigrate a very good man
conspiracy? I think so
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)36 years later we have been given another chance
Please america - don't let this chance slip away
senz
(11,945 posts)so it should get easier to get people to adopt wise energy use.
I suppose we've all heard that Carter put solar panels on the WH and Reagan had them taken down. Perfect symbolism for where we were going. Reagan pretty much killed this country. He made the Third Way, and all it entails and implies for us, possible.
senz
(11,945 posts)They don't recognize the real thing; they are constitutionally opposed to it.
In case you haven't seen Al Franken's Supply Side Jesus, it's pretty telling (and it's still true):
http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2003/09/The-Gospel-Of-Supply-Side-Jesus.aspx
senz
(11,945 posts)richmark950
(3 posts)for Jimmy Carter
lark
(23,061 posts)I take every chance I can get to celebrate Jimmy Carter, the best man to have been president in my lifetime. He didn't sell out (TPP, NAFTA) like the last 2 Dems did, stayed true to his convictions even after he retired.
Thanks for posting.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The damage done by RWing media is immeasurable when taken in it's entirety.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Nobody tells me anything!!
Damn!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I have the bronze version.
Here's what the reverse side looks like:
It's big too, 2 3/8" in diameter.
senz
(11,945 posts)I love the mountains and sun on the front, suggests the desert climate, not sure which mountain. The back has all three languages. The word "Peace" is Hebrew over Arabic over English? So the "P" is the same in English and Arabic? Not sure I'm reading it correctly.
Is a coin like that used for money or only for commemoration? How did you get it?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Very clever of the coin designer to find a way to combine them so aesthetically and holistically. Symbolic, too. Shared peace.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I don't how old you were but I was old enough to notice that things around me and in the broader nation were changing in ways that felt like a gradual coarsening and commercialization of everything around us -- what was on television, what was in the news, what was happening in business districts of towns and cities, work life. The rules had changed. Reagan changed the business rules and Clinton extended those changes. Bush I & II changed the foreign relations rules in terrible ways. We're not the same country any more. People born in the 80s and beyond don't even remember what it used to be like. It breaks my heart because they have been denied the life that my generation took for granted, denied their birthright as U.S. citizens -- by Republicans and Third Way Democrats.
I wonder what Carter thinks of all this. He keeps busy doing good as he can.
Now we know the importance of the laws set by those we elect to office in Washington. They affect our lives in ways we can't even imagine. They change the world for those to come.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Republicans blamed the media for the fall of Nixon and the loss of the Vietnam War.
They got the fairness doctrine rescinded so they could get unequal time. It didn't stop there. They shifted entertainment to the Right. We used to have shows about courtroom dramas where the hero was a defense attorney proving their client innocent. That shifted to courtroom dramas about district attorneys trying to put away the guilty and the defense attorney is a weasel.
Keep in mind that a lot of Republicans came out of the DAs office where they ran on their "tough on crime" conviction rates.
This is also why some Democrats sound like those accident attorneys on TV saying, "I'll fight for you".
senz
(11,945 posts)Republicans became media sophisticates long before Democrats knew what was happening. What I noticed in the 80s was a shift from "people next door" programs to stuff like "Dallas" and "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous," the increasing glamorization of wealth and materialism. Around the same time I began to notice pronounced anti-government and anti-liberal attitudes in coworkers who listened to rightwing talk radio, and their numbers grew as did the medium and its influence.
On another level, conservatives like Reagan and Clinton allowed progressive relaxation of FCC regulations on media ownership that resulted in more and more media outlets (TV networks, broadcast stations, cable media, commercial radio stations like Clear Channel, movie studios, book publishers, magazine and newspaper publishers) being owned by fewer and fewer conglomerates until we reached what we have now, a huge, tight, media monopoly. There used to be independent media operations all over the country; now, there are five central owners of all major media, megacorporations that decide what the American people are allowed to know. The saying in media studies is that "They don't tell you what to think; they tell you what to think about."
So of course the media is on the Right because they are by definition corporate. There is also the fact of interlocking directorates in which people sit on multiple corporate boards of directors, resulting in a big cozy mutually protective class of powerful individuals.
Media is extremely important, but there's more to what Reagan, Clinton, and Bush started -- deregulation permitting mergers, acquisitions and takeovers that changed the face of American business and the outlook for working people, the disappearance of Main Street and millions of small local businesses with the spread of huge national chain retail outlets, the consolidation of entire industries, the appearance of new health insurance creatures like HMOs, and trade agreements with other countries that permitted "American" manufacturing to outsource its production to places with very cheap labor and no environmental regulations.
And more. It really is a different world now. Life for the American people is much harder than it used to be, and it was all done via legislation on the part of our elected representatives.
Which means it can be undone. Which takes us back to: Go Bernie!!
senz
(11,945 posts)I don't know how to be concise.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Very kind of you. Also quite a compliment coming from a master of concision.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)It's perfect for you. It's a great way to get memes out into cyberspace. Plus, you can be very funny, something the world needs more of. Tweet, Spitfire, Tweet!