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Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:21 PM Mar 2016

Trump Fan Brutally Pepper-Sprays Teenage Girl

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/just-trump-fan-brutally-pepper-sprays-teenage-girl-video/

Violence between Trump supporters and his protesters has broken out once again. A capitol reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal, Molly Beck, witnessed an altercation at a rally in Janesville, which ended with a nineteen-year old protester being pepper-sprayed by a Trump supporter – so badly that she needed medical assistance afterwards. The heavily white town with a lengthy history with the Ku Klux Klan exploded into chaos this afternoon as hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists clashed with racists.

UPDATE – Witness reports, confirmed by local police chief, reveal that the Trump supporter groped the young woman’s breast, which prompted the punch and then the pepper-spraying. On a day which has already seen Trump and his supporters disparaging and insulting a woman after she was assaulted by his campaign manager, this truly puts into perspective how deep the hatred in the Trump campaign truly runs – misogyny, xenophobia, racism are all celebrated and defended by Trump and his bigoted supporters. He teaches them to treat other humans as objects, to be groped, shoved, and beaten with impunity; his supporters revel in their new-found confidence and behave like animals in public.

The pictures are a brutal symbol not only of the violence of Trump’s movement but of their naked disrespect towards women. As he continues to encourage violence at his rallies, the likelihood of people getting injured is rising substantially. This is a low point of American history that we won’t be able to soon recover from. This is fascism at work.

Molly Beck's twitter feed has photos and video https://twitter.com/MollyBeck
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Trump Fan Brutally Pepper-Sprays Teenage Girl (Original Post) Beaverhausen Mar 2016 OP
This is despicable and the trump supporter should be jailed. 30Draw Mar 2016 #1
NineTEEN panader0 Mar 2016 #2
Are you in the habit of calling adult women "girl" -- I hope not. 30Draw Mar 2016 #3
She's a teenager, which you denied. Get over it. panader0 Mar 2016 #4
Denied? I said she was 19. Try reading the entire post before you spout off. 30Draw Mar 2016 #5
You said calling her a teenager was disingenuous. panader0 Mar 2016 #6
LOL 30Draw Mar 2016 #7
Good grief! peabody Mar 2016 #8
I said she was 19 in my original post. 30Draw Mar 2016 #9
Actually, you brought up the subject about calling her peabody Mar 2016 #10
Stop it! 30Draw Mar 2016 #12
Nice derail ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #11
Exactly! peabody Mar 2016 #13
When we need to show sympathy, Igel Mar 2016 #24
I will correct the wife tomorrow. GulfCoast66 Mar 2016 #21
My "girl" friend is older than I am hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #14
No, she is not an adult - you're not legally adult until 21 hatrack Mar 2016 #15
No, one is a legal adult at 18. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #16
Not necessarily Marrah_G Mar 2016 #19
The woman in the OP is an adult, not a teen girl. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #22
She is still a teenager, until she turns 20 Marrah_G Mar 2016 #34
I find it so funny when someone is compelled to prove how right they are, even when they're wrong. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #36
Hence, our bemusement with your rationalizations. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #37
Facts aren't rationalizations. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #38
Your facts are incorrect and therefore not actually facts. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #41
Actually I am not wrong. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #40
Hope it is at least a hybrid, green is good. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #27
I have read several accoouts of this. Some say TWO women were hit with pepper spray - yellowcanine Mar 2016 #20
I reckon she'd be pissed off if she saw the way this stupid semantic argument you started... Turborama Mar 2016 #35
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #17
Forget about the "TEEN" part! It should be more of a concern that our country is being torn Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #18
Is there a primary source for this other than twitter? Erose999 Mar 2016 #23
Not that she deserved this.. trumad Mar 2016 #25
Well, if you discount the groping. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #26
Was there groping in the video? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #30
Besides, in that crowd, I would guess many people bounced off each other. TampaAnimusVortex Mar 2016 #32
Not even 19 from what I read. pugetres Mar 2016 #28
Here's the video MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #29
From that video ballabosh Mar 2016 #39
Not to downplay what happened. Is there a difference between pepper spraying someone and Glassunion Mar 2016 #31
LOL trumad Mar 2016 #33
Police: Teen who got pepper sprayed at Donald Trump rally in Janesville wasn't sexually assaulted oberliner Mar 2016 #42
I watched the event from several angels. linuxman Mar 2016 #43
 

30Draw

(46 posts)
1. This is despicable and the trump supporter should be jailed.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

But calling her a teenage girl is disrespectful to her and simply disingenuous. She's 19. She's an adult. Reading the headline I envisioned a 14 year old child.

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
5. Denied? I said she was 19. Try reading the entire post before you spout off.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:57 PM
Mar 2016

Calling an adult woman a "girl" is incredibly disrespectful. Are you really sticking with that position?

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
7. LOL
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

I said calling her a teenage GIRL was disingenuous. Now you're being disingenuous by claiming that I denied she was a teenager.

Backpedal much?

I'll take your lack of response as confirmation that you think calling an adult woman a "girl" is acceptable in 2016.

peabody

(445 posts)
8. Good grief!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

The girl is nineTEEN. Do you not see the teen in the word nineteen? Some people get worked up over nothing. A girl gets groped and this is the outrage you focus on? Get some perspective! (And welcome to DU).

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
9. I said she was 19 in my original post.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:15 PM
Mar 2016

She is not a teenage "GIRL" she is an adult woman, albeit a young adult. It is incredibly disrespectful to call an adult woman a "girl."

You're detracting everyone from the real issue here by insisting on disrespecting her. The real issue is that she was sexually assaulted and pepper sprayed: she doesn't need to be disrespected on top of that.

peabody

(445 posts)
10. Actually, you brought up the subject about calling her
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

a teenager and nobody else so it's actually you that's distracting from the main topic. I really doubt if that girl would be offended if she was called a teenager; and are you going to rag on me now for calling her a girl instead of a woman because she's an adult. You're political correctness on steroids.

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
12. Stop it!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't take issue with "teenager" - in fact, "teenager" was never used until you brought it up. I took issue with calling an adult woman a teenage "girl."

So now you're saying that calling an adult woman a girl is OK and that taking offense is some sort of extreme political correctness... I will not apologize for trying to be respectful of women.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
24. When we need to show sympathy,
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

a 19-year-old is a girl. Recently an 18-year-old male was a "boy."

When we need to show respect or protect rights, we refer to minors 16, 15, even 14 years old as "man" or "woman"--perhaps "young man" or "young woman," but not "girl."


If you poll people and ask them if they want to eat food grown in materials derived from animal excrement, a large percentage says "no".

If you poll people and ask if they want to eat food grown organically almost all say yes.

Of course, organically grown food is very often grown with manure, which is derived from animal excrement. Such is fast thinking.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. I will correct the wife tomorrow.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

So the next time we are at a get-together with our friends and my wife(of 25 years) comments that the GIRLS are going for drinks in the den while you BOYS cook supper I need to correct her as being anti-feminist? Or when I comment that you GIRLS go out and sit on the porch, we BOYS will do the dishes, I should feel ashamed?

There are bigger fish to fry.








 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
14. My "girl" friend is older than I am
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

The term has been generalized and doesn't necessarily indicate age.

In other cultures it would certainly be disrespectful in some cases, but in US culture it's really not.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
15. No, she is not an adult - you're not legally adult until 21
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

Nice trolling motor ya got there, btw.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. Not necessarily
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:35 PM
Mar 2016

United States all states and territories except Kansas (18, 16 if married), Alabama (19), Nebraska (19, or if married), Puerto Rico (21) and Mississippi (21)

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
34. She is still a teenager, until she turns 20
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

She is most likely legally an adult teenager, just like most 18 yearolds.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
36. I find it so funny when someone is compelled to prove how right they are, even when they're wrong.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

You have a nice day.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. Hence, our bemusement with your rationalizations.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

Hence, our bemusement with your rationalizations.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
40. Actually I am not wrong.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:44 PM
Mar 2016

But I agree with you. "I find it so funny when someone is compelled to prove how right they are, even when they're wrong."

You are wrong. Words have meanings. You don't just get to change them because you don't like the definitions.


From Merriam-Webster Dictionary

teenage
adjective teen·age ˈtēn-ˌāj
Popularity: Bottom 50% of words
Simple Definition of teenage
: between 13 and 19 years old
: relating to people who are between 13 and 19 years old


You have a nice day.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
20. I have read several accoouts of this. Some say TWO women were hit with pepper spray -
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:46 PM
Mar 2016

One fifteen and the other nineteen. Maybe we should wait for more details before falling all over ourselves arguing who was an adult and who was a child. Besides, someone got pepper sprayed at close range in the face. That is a fact. Gender and age are kind of irrelevant.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
35. I reckon she'd be pissed off if she saw the way this stupid semantic argument you started...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:12 AM
Mar 2016

...has been such a distraction from what actually happened to her.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
18. Forget about the "TEEN" part! It should be more of a concern that our country is being torn
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

further and further APART! All of the negative emotions/behaviors are being fed steroids right now!

Trump's campaign defector admitted it was all about publicity and spread the Trump view of things. He thought he would finish 2nd, and I'm sure stay relevant for his ego's sake.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
30. Was there groping in the video?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't see it, and it looked like the Trump supporter with the sweater and white hair was keeping his distance. He appeared to be the target of the punch, though I'm not sure the punch actually landed.

Maybe the cops have other, better video, better angle.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
32. Besides, in that crowd, I would guess many people bounced off each other.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:43 PM
Mar 2016

Edit...

I found a more complete video of the encounter. Looks like he may have tapped her with some papers. Not really appropriate, but hardly worth a punch in the face. Starts around 1m 7s


 

pugetres

(507 posts)
28. Not even 19 from what I read.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016
It was simple. I was in the crowd and a man started groping me. I yelled at him to stop touching me several times and he just laughed and continued, I yelled at him and said “you’re a grown man and I am a fifteen-year-old-girl, are you proud of yourself?” As I tried to push him off. He just kept laughing and still had his hands on me, so I hit him. Immediately as my hands went towards him I got pepper sprayed and then I basically got carried to a cop car because I could not open my eyes.


She is just a kid.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
29. Here's the video
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016


Her version of events don't seem to match the video, as soon as she looses her shit at him his hands go in the air and he moves backwards.

ballabosh

(330 posts)
39. From that video
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

I agree. It looks like he might have put his hands out to hold her back, but nothing sexual.

On the other hand, you can see the guy with the pepper spray way to the right at the beginning to the video and he constantly moves towards them throughout the video. He was looking for a confrontation. Otherwise, why bring pepper spray to a rally?

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
31. Not to downplay what happened. Is there a difference between pepper spraying someone and
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

brutally pepper spraying someone?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. Police: Teen who got pepper sprayed at Donald Trump rally in Janesville wasn't sexually assaulted
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:58 PM
Mar 2016

JANESVILLE -- A 15-year-old girl who was pepper sprayed outside a Donald Trump rally in Janesville earlier this week was not sexually assaulted as she originally claimed, police said Thursday.

Video showed the girl getting pepper sprayed after she claimed someone in the crowd outside the rally groped her. Police reported that information in a press conference after the rally Tuesday, calling those "point-in-time comments" that were "based upon victim statements."

However, using video, witness accounts, and interviews, investigators determined there was no sexual assault, and that the 15-year-old girl had punched a 59-year-old man in the face.

http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/police-teen-at-donald-trump-rally-wasnt-sexually-assaulted

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
43. I watched the event from several angels.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

I saw no groping. She lost her temper, sucker punched a man in the face, then got maced for her trouble.

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