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Bucky

(53,997 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:04 AM Mar 2016

President Trump’s First 100 Days in office

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/future-president-trump-100-days-article-1.2384306

On Jan. 20, 2017, Donald Trump will take the oath of office for the presidency of the United States. What follows is an exclusive report on the first 100 days that followed his fabulous inauguration and after-party (attended by thousands of beautiful women with beautiful faces) as he set off on a short road to making America great again.

Day 1. Even as President Trump orders federal workers to bundle the inaugural ball’s gold foil confetti for smelting and reuse in White House restroom faucets, he begins making good on his campaign vow to seal the U.S.-Mexico border “on my first day.”

Refusing to let supporters hold hands along the border, Red Rover style, to prevent immigrants from crossing over, germophobe Trump orders the National Guard to douse the border in gasoline, set it afire and maintain the blaze.

He proclaims the conflagration, which is visible from space, to be “spectacular.”

{....}

For Mexico’s “convenience,” Trump says he will accept $40 billion in a “terrifically” structured balloon mortgage.

Simultaneously, the President moves to debunk fears that he intends to brutally uproot and deport 11 million undocumented residents — and send them back to their home countries in cattle cars. Stretch limousines and well-dressed men with Tasers begin appearing in American cities.

“We have just begun the fastest, classiest mass deportation in world history,” Trump declares.

Day 2. When Secretary of State Arnold Schwarzenegger reports that Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto laughed in his face about paying for the $40 billion wall, Trump tears up the North American Free Trade Agreement on live television.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. If Trump were elected, I would expect any number of countries to nuke us on day one as a preemptive
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

strike, just like many Trump supporters believe we should do to Iran.

Self-induced end times.

I think GOPers will find a way to prevent Trump from achieving the nomination.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
3. TRUMP IS NOT AGAINST NONIMMIGRANT GUEST WORKER PROVISIONS IN TRADE DEALS
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

This is a crucially important difference which is being misunderstood by many low-information voters to mean that Trump is against legal corporate trade in services, his position appears to be similar to Hillary's - He supports it. The cost to US workers could be astronomical and rapid.

"Movement of Natural Persons" provisions in existing and ending deals are potentially the most damaging, especially to people in skilled professions, IT, academia, nursing, energy, construction. Wherever the wage gradients between US and international average wages are the highest.

For example, because of ongoing changes shifting to international e-tendering and bidding on procurements of both goods and services such as staffing, as well as new as well as already existing mandates to privatize quasi-public jobs, any future New Deal to rebuild infrastructure would dilute government spending internationally, not create domestic jobs. Subcontractors would travel to the US to staff their employers contracts. Huge increases in these kinds of visas could occur overnight in response to a case now before the WTO. We could not stop it.

Changes could even come before the election if a case now pending before the WTO is decided, ending the use of quotas. I think this is likely. That would allow levels of low wage subcontracting to rise until wages reached some kind of equilibrium. Its possible that the higher of two countries minimum wages might be paid, if they had them, or its also possible that no wage parity would apply, that has been the preference of many potential supplying countries as they feel that "high" minimum wages would be used as a way for countries like the US to get out of our WTO obligations to allow trade in services based only on objective and verifiable criteria. (Developing countries, especially the official "least developed countries"- ("LDCs&quot have repeatedly argued that as their main competitive advantage is low wages relative to the high educational level of their skilled workers, that they should be able to use that competitive advantage in winning subcontracts.

Ultimately, the US could end up with 30 million or more guest workers under L-1 visas working as subcontractors in a great many new workplaces.

Only "services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority" "which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers." or which involves national security, is exempt from the mandates to privatize. So large numbers of jobs will be privatized where some commercial presence exists. (schools, hospitals, utilities such as water, financial services, - wherever there is a commercial provider the government has to stop competing with them. That's what both existing and new, pending services portions of back room deals attempt to do.

Additionally huge increases in cross border data flows is expected. (Business services over international borders, delivered electronically)

The justification, to the WTO is simply that its more profitable to the owners of the companies and in theory to the guest workers around the world. (although they would be paid a fraction of the wages of those they were replacing, perhaps as low as minimum wage if there is one. ) Higher profits = "More efficient" in economics lingo.

So, beware of Trump. He is no different than Hillary on trade in services. Certainly no better. Every area where he proposes to enact drmatic change, you can bet he's counting on using foreign, not domestic labor to do it. And it will become irreversible, its not possible to "turn it off" as he says. Thats the difference between trade deals and domestic regulation. The changes made by trade deals are designed to completely override domestic regulations and politicians and elections, in crucial areas that will make any rational decisions on policy completely preordained, for example, blocking everything in Bernie Sanders platform, for good. Obama wants his legacy to be these deals so expect a push to sign them before his successors inauguration. Also, since many of them originated in a 90s deal that was signed two decades ago, which the country was never told about, consider the Democratic primaries as a referendum on that deal, By pretending they dont exist, and arguing for a return to the previous state - which most Americans still believe to be the current situation, Sanders's platform basically is a referendum on those deals.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
8. Truth is not always convenient - but its important.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

See the following- These facts are not in dispute.

You can watch the same Trump interview I did and see the same statements by him. You can also see that Hillary Clinton also supports the use of guest workers by the shape of her campaign prmises to change various things that would require either that or the withdrawal from GATS. (Which would preserve US jobs!) She is choosing the path that - if quotas are overturned, would decimate those high paying jobs.

GATS was not written to be hamstring on the supply side by quotas. Its already caused two major disasters. Don't underestimate its capacity to cause EVIL. Its an evil deal. Its an attack on public services all around the world. The GATS-based FTAS all make helping poor people FTA-illegal even when its a matter of life or death, framing that as a theft from corporations. What is more evil than that? TiSA hopes to re-legitimize it because its not getting buy in from the world. That- the fact that poor countries cannot afford to meet the developing nations, primarily the US's demands that they eliminate public health care and education- and these quotas, are a big but under-reported part of why the Doha negotiations have repeatedly collapsed.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44354.pdf (CRS report on TiSA)

http://unctad.org/en/Docs/diaeia20101_en.pdf (UN report on MFN)

See also: Conflicts between United States Immigration Law and the General Agreement on Trade in Services: Most-Favored-Nation Obligation by William Thomas Worster
http://www.tilj.org/content/journal/42/num1/Worster55.pdf

Look- its an undisputed fact, that GATS Mode Four currently exists but is vastly underutilized specifically because of quotas and low levels of commitment by developed (WTO) nations even after 20 years.

Its also an undisputed fact that the US use of quotas is currently being disputed, for the first time, by another country. (India)

If WTO invalidates quotas, as used by the US, for example, it will dramatically increase the use of Mode Four. Manyfold. Period. There is no way to say no. Its framed as an obligation. Like paying your bills. We get this, you get that.

This is fact. Not fiction. You are ignorant of *these* facts, but they ARE TRUE.

Deal with it.



 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. I don't really worry about high paying jobs being decimated. Fact is, we do live in a global world.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

and we need to adapt. But high paying jobs won't be decimated unless we withdraw from the world and try trading among ourselves to an unsustainable degree. WTO hasn't invalidated "quotas" since GATS was implemented in 1995. Truth is, if we don't like something, we can say "screw you" WTO -- but I doubt that will happen.

Things like "Conflicts between United States Immigration Law and the General Agreement on Trade in Services: Most-Favored-Nation Obligation by William Thomas Worster" were written over 10 years ago and none of your fears have materialized because of GATS. Things may be a little tough right now, but not because of GATs.

You should rest assured everything will work out. Growing world trade is good for us long-term, not something to fear.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
12. The US committed to an unlimited number of L-1 visas
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

if you read the article I just posted you will see that the US committed to an unlimited number of L-1 visas!!!

That would be a huge huge huge disaster for literally the entire working class and middle class of this country.

Because then the only thing that stops the flow of jobs is when the wages are the same.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
15. Your attitude is an example of why people are leaving this party
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

Ideology based rulers and policy are responsible for the largest disasters in human history.

the reason people elect leaders is to represent US, not others, not the extremely wealthy.

Other countries leaders often DO represent them, but here, NO, why?

You and attitudes like this are part of the problem. We do not get a representaive under your logic. Your logic is antidemocratic.

EXAMPLE:
"I don't really worry about high paying jobs being decimated. Fact is, we do live in a global world."

"and we need to adapt. But high paying jobs won't be decimated unless we withdraw from the world and try trading among ourselves to an unsustainable degree. WTO hasn't invalidated "quotas" since GATS was implemented in 1995. Truth is, if we don't like something, we can say "screw you" WTO -- but I doubt that will happen.

Things like "Conflicts between United States Immigration Law and the General Agreement on Trade in Services: Most-Favored-Nation Obligation by William Thomas Worster" were written over 10 years ago and none of your fears have materialized because of GATS. Things may be a little tough right now, but not because of GATs.

You should rest assured everything will work out. Growing world trade is good for us long-term, not something to fear.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
4. The problematic one is GATS
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

GATS is the one that will allow global temping (non-immigrant visas for up to some unspecified time but at least five years) of skilled jobs like nursing, teaching and IT for minimum wage or less. Imagine if you were an employer and you could get four construction workers or skilled teachers who spoke perfect English for a third or a quarter of what you pay your employees now. For minimum wage, whatever it was.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. What is with this GATS junk? The darn thing was implemented in 1995. It hasn't done any of the
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

stuff you imply.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
9. Read this- please
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately.

India's complaint was filed with the WTO on March 10.

The main point of this "fourth mode" of supply, cross border movement of natural persons is to help corporations from less developed countries balance out the economics of the world - ending protectionism where politically well connected groups have managed to keep corporations from less developed countries out, discriminating against them. The new priority is not discriminating against poor corporations, not poor people


"In its March 3 request for consultations, India alleged the U.S. visa measures violated a slew of GATS obligations, but did not spell out its legal arguments backing up its claim."

"India is also claiming that commitments made by the U.S. in its free trade agreements with
Singapore and Chile to provide a certain number of H-1B visas to those countries violates the
United States' commitment under GATS to annually provide 65,000 H-1Bs worldwide."

However, the U.S. GATS schedule specifically states that it will offer "up to" 65,000 H-1B visas
for persons annually on a worldwide basis.

It also committed in its GATS schedule to allow entry for an unlimited number of qualifying L-1 visa holders. THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE HERE

"Opponents and proponents of the fee hike both concede that the conditions required for companies to pay the fee increase in practice applies mostly to Indian-owned companies
operating in the United States and entirely to companies where the majority of the H-1B and L-1 employees are Indian nationals."

"In a Dec. 29, 2015 press release, the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) described the limited application of the new fee hikes as "highly discriminatory and punitive" and "specifically geared
towards India and Indian-centric technology companies." The group also said "visa fees should
be applied in a non-discriminatory, non-protectionist manner to all companies that use the visa
programs."

"Critics of India's claim that the visa fees are a market access violation point to a 2010
statement by an executive at the Indian information technology company Infosys -- which has
U.S. operations that meet the conditions for being subject to the disputed visa fees -- in the
Hindu Business Line. He said that that the initial fee increase in 2010 would not have an impact
on the company's bottom-line, and that the fees could double -- which occurred in the 2016
omnibus bill -- and still have no substantive impact on the company's profit margin."

Again, I suspect that this isnt about fees, its about the quotas. I also suspect that both countries are cooperating behind the scenes to get rid of the quotas in a plausible deniability protecting way. THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM WITH ELECTING HILLARY OR ANY REPUBLICAN IN A NUTSHELL


.......blah blah blah blah.......

One Senate aide also said that because Indian companies could still obtain H-1Bs despite the fee
hikes, and that the fee hikes did not apply only Indian companies -- although only Indian
companies meet the conditions for being subject to the cost increase -- the measures do not limit
market access.

But a private-sector source expressed confidence that the fee hikes would negatively impact the
profits of Indian companies. That source said Indian investments in the U.S. were "built on an
understanding of an open business and investment environment," and that the fee hikes may
throw caution to the wind for Indian businesses.

A June 2010 study by commissioned by NFAP argued that high visa fees imposed without
reasonable justification could violate Mode 4 market access commitments by diminishing the
ability of services to be provided through the presence of natural persons.

On India's national treatment claims, the Senate aide said that some companies owned by U.S.-
nationals are hit with the visa fee hike as well, because they employ enough H-1B or L-1 holders
to reach the threshold. The aide said the fact that a U.S.-owned company like Cognizant
Technology Solutions consistently applies for and obtains a high number of H-1Bs and now must
pay the same increased fee that applies to Indian companies under the same conditions proves
the fee hikes are not discriminatory.

A spokesman for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative said that the U.S. is looking
forward to discussing the H-1B visa program with India, but that its policies, including the
December fee increase, are in line with WTO rules.

"We are confident that the United States' visa program, which was recently updated on a
bipartisan basis by Congress, is fully consistent with our WTO obligations," the spokesman said.
India in 2012 considered launching a WTO case against the U.S. over fee hikes for H-1B and L-
1 visas attached to a border security appropriations bill that Congress passed in August 2010.
That bill also established that the fees increases only applied to companies with over 50 workers
of whom 50 percent were H-1B or L-1 visa holders.

At that time, sources said India believed that these criteria, while not explicitly discriminatory
against Indian firms, have that effect in practice. This has been a longstanding issue, and one that
has been raised repeatedly by CII and U.S. groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Under WTO rules, the U.S. must respond to the consultation request within 10 days and
consultations must occur within 30 days of when the initial request is received, meaning
consultations must kick off by April 2. If the dispute is not resolved within 60 days after the
receipt of the consultation request, the complaining party may request a dispute settlement panel.
That deadline is May 2.

Proponents and critics of the visa fee did agree that if the U.S. were faulted by the WTO, a
proposal to either remove the visa fee hike or increase the amount of H-1B's awarded annually
would be politically dead on arrival in Congress. But due to the lack of disputes on Mode 4 and
GATS, sources generally were hesitant to predict overall how a WTO panel would resolve the
dispute.

India also claimed the U.S. violated five other GATS provisions, according to Geneva
sources. These include GATS Article VI, which requires that "all measures of general
application affecting trade in services are administered in a reasonable, objective and impartial
manner."

India also alleged a violation of paragraphs 3 and 4 of the GATS Mode 4 Annex. Paragraph 3
states that members may schedule specific commitments on Mode 4, while paragraph 4 provides
that the GATS does not prevent WTO members from regulating entry or temporary stay of
persons as long as those measures do not nullify or impair the benefits accruing to other
members.

In addition, India said the U.S. violated GATS Article XX, which specifies how parties schedule
their specific commitments; Article III.3, which obligates members to notify the Council for
Trade in Services when they make domestic changes which significantly affect trade in services;
and Article IV.1, which generally seeks to facilitate developing country participation in global
trade vis-a-vis GATS.


The NFAP study argued that raising visa fees could potentially violate GATS Article VI if they
were proven to be applied in a manner that is not reasonable, objective or impartial.


With regard to paragraph 6 of the Mode 4 annex, the study suggested that prohibitively high visa
fees could "nullify or impair" benefits awarded to WTO members under terms of sector-specific
commitments.
Thats also applies to quotas- right there is proof that GATS overrides US laws.


Javaman

(62,517 posts)
10. trumps first 3 days in office...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

day 1: pisses off the world

day 2: tells the world to go fuck themselves

day 3: congress tries to impeach him, but he launches all of our nukes to spite them.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
14. Trump can't be as stupid as he sounds, can he? It's just an act to appeal to our
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

lowest common denominator, isn't it? Not sure what it says when my hope is that he is is a liar and demagogue rather than someone who will do what he says he will do.

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