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He just forgot the second part of doing the marching and fighting for union rights.
boxman15
(1,033 posts)Walker won by a healthy margin. It wouldn't have done any good. It would've killed Obama politically, and made his re-election and this nation's chance to recover so much harder to achieve.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)The margin was 7 percent. No standing up for the core of your supporters will be seen as weak in November. Voters have no respect for that.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)they did briefly when stating that they preferred Obama over Romney.
They also indicated a negative attitude towards recalls by 60%.
You are barking up the wrong tree.
Two posts bashing Obama with the most superficial of reasons. Is that an agenda?
Voters like Obama. So when he did nothing to support Wisconsin unions, voters were confused. They thought "if Obama doesn't care about this recall strongly, why should we?"
tabatha
(18,795 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)thank you.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Seriously. How far do you feel you have to lower expectations to diminish the President's role and popularity that far?
PB
The President's re-election is not in jeopardy, it would not have been in jeopardy if he'd stumped for WI. It wasn't going to make anything harder...the most it could have done was move one "Lean Dem" state to toss-up...and he'd likely still win it even then.
Let's see if I can make this clearer. Based on polling:
Safe Dem: WA, OR, CA, NM, MN, IL, MI, MD, DE, DC, PA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, NH, VT, ME, HI
Lean Dem: NV, WI
Obama: 257 EC
Safe GOP: AK, ID, UT, MT, WY, ND, SD, NE, OK, TX, KS, AR, MI, AL, LA, GA, SC, IN, TN, KY, WV
Lean GOP: AZ
Romney: 181EC
Tossups: CO, IA, MO, OH, VA, NC, FL
To win the election, Romney has to win all of them except he can lose either CO or IA, but not both. Obama has to win either 2 of CO, IA, MO or 1 of OH, VA, NC, FL. He's leading in CO, IA, OH, VA, NC, FL. He's down narrowly in in MO. The odds are greater of Obama breaking 300EC than they are of him losing.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Either he has influence, or he doesn't, you cannot have it both ways.
lame54
(35,277 posts)I guess making good on the promise is not important
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)You just wait! You'll see. You'll all see!*
*But if he does extend them it's simply another move in the Grand Chess Game
PB
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Chess indeed.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Your Koch boys are grinning ear to ear.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Happydayz
(112 posts)Obama, is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I remember the Scott Brown vs Martha Coakley race very well and how it played out, when Obama went to campaign for Coakley. No sooner than Scott being declared the winner, the media and anti-Obama folks (like yourself) were declaring this is a referendum on Obama and he only hurts dems in local elections etc. Now you gripe and complain when he doesn't want to involve himself in a local election during presidential campaign year. Heavy sigh!! You can't have it both ways, sorry!!
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Nt
jp11
(2,104 posts)pretty much all democrats have taken that position. It's far easier to go to the right over fighting republicans and going left, where most people actually are compared to the right, to court big republican money just as the democratic party HAS been doing.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)It is so easy to blame Obama and make it about him because that is what the right and the media wants everyone to do.
Flipping a local loss nationally to try and beat Obama in November.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)No sitting President has EVER gotten involved in a state recall election. If he had then this loss would have been hung around his neck like a millstone.
But you don't care do you? No, what matters is NOW. RIGHT NOW!1 Fuck the future!1! Fuck the country! All that matters in the whole world is Wisconsin!1!
My gawd, don't you kids have school or something?
Julie